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squodge
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:38 am Posts: 104
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Okay, so I learned a while ago that you can see as low down as 60% of your rank on the PVP battle tab. At low ranks (up to about 100, I guess) it's not an issue. At medium ranks (I'd say 200-350) it gets tricky. And at higher ranks, maybe 400+ it's a pain. So let's say if you're rank 420, you can be seen by a rank 700. To get from rank 420 to 700 would probably take an average player at least a year. So those rank 700's can get easy pickings just because of the 60% rule. A rank 700 has a year's worth of arti collection over the rank 420 - i.e. an immensely superior ship Anyone think the formula should change? It seems unfair that a rank 600 can be fly-swatted by rank 900+ on a regular basis. Surely a fairer system that's still competitive is one where you battle those similar to your rank. In no way is rank 600 similar to rank 900 In fact, rank 420 isn't all that similar to rank 700. The ranks are just too far apart as you go up ranks. Surely a revision to address this, maybe a sliding scale? Ranks up to 99: see as low as 60% Ranks 100-199: 65% Ranks 200-399: 70% Ranks 400-799: 75% Ranks 800-1,599: 80% Ranks 1,600+: 90%, but will lower is no available players at 90% I've just arbitrarily come up with that sliding scale. But as it stands, it seems unfair that rank 1,000+ can easily fly swat a rank 600+. Surely it's almost impossible to cloak enough at rank 600 to hide from a rank 1,000? Any thoughts? Do those at rank 1,000+ who are 'laughable' like the fact they can get easy pickings?
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:39 pm |
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KxG Ryoko
Joined: Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:31 am Posts: 945 Location: Midchilda Section Six
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While this idea is aimed towards the spirit of fairness, unfortunately we have a few rocks to throw that'll derail it.
these rocks are called: Slow rankers Credit-card Warriors Players in lvl7 training legions.
all of these will have far superior ships to those who play casually or those who built their own legions.
My rank is 476, but I probably have the ship strength of a rank 300 player~ Because I built my own legion, have stuck with it no matter how inactive it's gotten, and haven't spent insane amounts of money on getting my mission planets (got mission exotic solely from drops). I get about 153,700 ap a day(talth so it's going up slowly).
But yeah, Rank means very little, it's ship strength that means more, so battle tab should pit similar strength ships against each other~
Just my 2p~
_________________ Offical Stuff-Knower of Mist Nebula Corps
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:02 pm |
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umbongo
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:04 pm Posts: 1063
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-1. It's not broke, so don't change it.
I am rank 323 or so and disable people at the top end of ranks I can see, when I go PvPing.
The only annoying thing with PvP is that 90% of people are under halcs atm.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:04 pm |
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SpaceCaseAce
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:36 pm Posts: 379
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i thought it was 40% above or below your rank, not 60%. which is correct?
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:29 pm |
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Fenix
Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:33 am Posts: 802
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SpaceCaseAce wrote: i thought it was 40% above or below your rank, not 60%. which is correct? 60% of your rank, 40% below your rank, they effectively mean the same thing.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:16 pm |
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Noirpa
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:48 am Posts: 154
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So I read this thread and I think to myself... It is one disable. ONE DISABLE !!! One nano to fix your ship or one payment 200m credits, one to five raids at 700 aph/mph. Not all ships are built the same way. Some of the rank 1000s have ships that even a 400 could take, sure there isnt a lot of them but they are out there. There are D-bombs and emps to lower the high ranks down to your level.
However, whining fixes nothing, rather it be on the ship comm or on the forum.
I know I have gone after a few players just cause I loved to hear them cry or call me some name. The one I went after the most was named HAPPYCAMPER from H1, he left me a comm say that he hopes I die screaming in pain from cancer.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:33 pm |
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KxG Ryoko
Joined: Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:31 am Posts: 945 Location: Midchilda Section Six
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Noirpa wrote: So I read this thread and I think to myself... It is one disable. ONE DISABLE !!!
One disable, every 24 or sometimes even 12 hours from that same higher rank guy. Not one disable over the course of gaming~ Noirpa wrote: There are D-bombs and emps to lower the high ranks down to your level. Arti spam will just get the high rankers to stat pad all over you. End of the day, my post sorted things out a little fairer than "Well, you're within range of ALL OF THESE PEOPLE, and some of them are much higher rank than you, deal with it~"
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:52 pm |
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squodge
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:38 am Posts: 104
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Noirpa wrote: So I read this thread and I think to myself... It is one disable. ONE DISABLE !!! One nano to fix your ship or one payment 200m credits, one to five raids at 700 aph/mph. Not all ships are built the same way. Some of the rank 1000s have ships that even a 400 could take, sure there isnt a lot of them but they are out there. There are D-bombs and emps to lower the high ranks down to your level.
However, whining fixes nothing, rather it be on the ship comm or on the forum.
I know I have gone after a few players just cause I loved to hear them cry or call me some name. The one I went after the most was named HAPPYCAMPER from H1, he left me a comm say that he hopes I die screaming in pain from cancer. I'm merely starting a discussion - and you already call it 'whining'? Also, I know for a fact that a lot of players aren't disabled just once. I get attacked on a regular basis by the same players who are 200+ ranks above me. There's nothing I can do to cloak against them - I just don't have the necessary cloaks to hide from them. Even if I paid real money, I'd still struggle to get all the cloak artis to hide from them. I don't see how that's fair. Your example that even a rank 400 could take down a rank 1,000 is a moot point. It wouldn't be an issue if there were LOTS of rank 1,000s that were easily disabled, but that's just not the case. In the majority of cases, a rank 400 would be gobbled up by a rank 1,000 (even one that's laughable). The whole David and Goliath scenario highlights an exception, not the rule. Anyway, I was merely starting a discussion to get some thoughts on this. If that's whining, then it seems we can't talk about anything at all without you calling it whining.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:15 pm |
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senatorhung
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:09 am Posts: 3473
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wiki page with table outlining combat badge ranges: http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... ing_Rangesa very good incentive to slow.rank, imho.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:29 pm |
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Fireblade
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:42 am Posts: 1148
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At my current rank i can be badged by player who are almost 1000 ranks higher than me, I'm not complaining and neither should you system ain't broke so don't fix it.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:14 pm |
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DarkMar
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:27 pm Posts: 1220
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-1 Rank doesnt = strength
1 rank only gives you 5 rank points and more planet slots (1 planet slot pr 4 ranks), if you have a high artifact production you can easily pick up 5+ Rescued Prisoners pr day, that is basickly the same as Gaining 3+ ranks = 15+ Rank points without actualy increasing your rank so what strength realy comes down to is How high your artifact production is vs how farst you rank (and ofcourse what type of build you are doing, SSB or LSB, SSB are better for PvP combat then LSB)
if a rank 200 Player got his mission exotic, dyson and Rift planets asap and have been a member of a Legion with a level 6+ artifact base from day 1, he would proberly easily be able to take down ships 3* his own rank who didnt have the same advantages
also if you limit the range to +- 10% of your rank as you sugest for high ranks - what would happen is a rank 2000 players would have less then 40 posible targets to hit - witch would basickly kill any PvP combat at that rank
and if you dont want to be disabled, you already have the perfect solution to that just use a Calming Amplifier + a Halcyon Trap, that gives you 4 + 2 hours where it is almost imposible to kill your ship, I say almost imposible as I have seen ships beeing disabled on the same hit that set off the Halcyon Trap a few times
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:19 pm |
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playret0195x
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:48 pm Posts: 2251
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The PvP rank system isn't broke. Those who disable you merely have better managed ships than you do. Wheter it be from playing longer or spending cash into the game. As stated before there are glass 1k ships out there. If you're really upset about it then either you autorank a few hundred levels (to increase planet slots) and colonize a ton of good planets and slow rank for a while, or slow/freeze rank at your current rank. Building up your production will actually make quite a difference in your growth.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:35 pm |
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squodge
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:38 am Posts: 104
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playret0195x wrote: The PvP rank system isn't broke. Those who disable you merely have better managed ships than you do. Wheter it be from playing longer or spending cash into the game. As stated before there are glass 1k ships out there. If you're really upset about it then either you autorank a few hundred levels (to increase planet slots) and colonize a ton of good planets and slow rank for a while, or slow/freeze rank at your current rank. Building up your production will actually make quite a difference in your growth. I didn't say I was getting disabled all the time, I said I was getting targeted all the time - which is different. Either way, since "it ain't broken", then I'll just have to keep topping up my halcs and calming amps  EDIT: And yeah, I've considered slow ranking, maybe for just a few months.
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