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Author:  Asheron [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:50 am ]
Post subject:  Ability to choose different ethnicities for...

(Moved elsewhere - Asheron)

EDIT/UPDATE, 6-21-2013: "Might be seen as racist" referred to in-game races, not the real world's. (Of course THAT would have been irrelevant.)

I guess everyone mis-assumed. I sure hope to see as much diversity in-game (if not more) as there is out in the real world! And I hope no one else minds the in-game diversity too! Thanks. - Asheron

Author:  varunjitsingh146 [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ability to choose different ethnicities for...

Asheron wrote:
...your chosen species.

Many other games allow us to choose different ethnicities - skin, hair, etc. colors, et al.

(If you say "We're not 'other games'" and don't want us to be like other games, go ahead and suggest that GL be in a color palette used by no other game (over 16m possible colors in all) and in a language that no other game uses (so maybe one spoken on the west side of a river in Indonesia, by 100 tribe members.)

By the way, if you attempt to strike this suggestion down, you might be seen as racist. Let us choose any race/ethnicity we'd like to be in the game by customizing our avatars. Expressing individuality is a virtue and quality of so many peoples worldwide (and maybe even galaxy-wide.) - Asheron

i would +1 this if it wasn't for that.

Author:  stuffybeary [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ability to choose different ethnicities for...

-1 I'm not racist I just discriminate against bad ideas(but if you call me racist I will target your ship)
edit: I occasionaly see my character and only see the top portion. it's not really needed

Author:  f3ar3dlegend [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:01 am ]
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We have races... what's the point of ethnicities? No really, what does it accomplish?

Author:  Nuke [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:03 am ]
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Asheron wrote:
...your chosen species.

Many other games allow us to choose different ethnicities - skin, hair, etc. colors, et al.

(If you say "We're not 'other games'" and don't want us to be like other games, go ahead and suggest that GL be in a color palette used by no other game (over 16m possible colors in all) and in a language that no other game uses (so maybe one spoken on the west side of a river in Indonesia, by 100 tribe members.)

By the way, if you attempt to strike this suggestion down, you might be seen as racist. Let us choose any race/ethnicity we'd like to be in the game by customizing our avatars. Expressing individuality is a virtue and quality of so many peoples worldwide (and maybe even galaxy-wide.) - Asheron

I don't see how this would be considered as racism if we do not agree with this.

Author:  Asheron [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:28 am ]
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Nuke wrote:
Asheron wrote:
...your chosen species.

Many other games allow us to choose different ethnicities - skin, hair, etc. colors, et al.

(If you say "We're not 'other games'" and don't want us to be like other games, go ahead and suggest that GL be in a color palette used by no other game (over 16m possible colors in all) and in a language that no other game uses (so maybe one spoken on the west side of a river in Indonesia, by 100 tribe members.)

By the way, if you attempt to strike this suggestion down, you might be seen as racist. Let us choose any race/ethnicity we'd like to be in the game by customizing our avatars. Expressing individuality is a virtue and quality of so many peoples worldwide (and maybe even galaxy-wide.) - Asheron

I don't see how this would be considered as racism if we do not agree with this.


What race does the current Human(s) look like? - Asheron

Author:  varunjitsingh146 [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ability to choose different ethnicities for...

I thought you would've learned from last time not to pull cards like that :roll: this idea would receive more support if it was posted by someone who doesn't pull out racial cards to get his way.

Author:  stuffybeary [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ability to choose different ethnicities for...

Asheron wrote:
Nuke wrote:
Asheron wrote:
...your chosen species.

Many other games allow us to choose different ethnicities - skin, hair, etc. colors, et al.

(If you say "We're not 'other games'" and don't want us to be like other games, go ahead and suggest that GL be in a color palette used by no other game (over 16m possible colors in all) and in a language that no other game uses (so maybe one spoken on the west side of a river in Indonesia, by 100 tribe members.)

By the way, if you attempt to strike this suggestion down, you might be seen as racist. Let us choose any race/ethnicity we'd like to be in the game by customizing our avatars. Expressing individuality is a virtue and quality of so many peoples worldwide (and maybe even galaxy-wide.) - Asheron

I don't see how this would be considered as racism if we do not agree with this.


What race does the current Human(s) look like? - Asheron

if you would like to know and can't find one in your legion. go to the terms page, scroll down, hit the home button, and click screenshots which will show you the human race. or go to this link http://galaxylegion.com/index.html and click on screenshots

Author:  Hawkeblade [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:46 am ]
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-1 there is no reason for ethnicities. You assume that these aliens have different skin color and stuff is delving way to deep from taking it as a game and making it a reality. Im all for Male and Female, but i dont think there is a need for more then that.

Author:  KJReed [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:56 am ]
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Please stop and ask what would this add to the gameplay?
This is about as useful as along to be able to change the color of in game text.

Author:  Uy23e [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ability to choose different ethnicities for...

You know who is racist? YOU ARE. From the sound of it, you think people of different race/ethnicity as different species. Let me tell you something, it's WRONG! you know what's the closest species to us? not another "race" but instead gorillas and monkeys. Is that how you view people of different ethnicity?

All people of whatever ethnicity are of the SAME species. And by the course of evolution, it's unlikely for one planet to hold multiple intelligent species(as they are likely to either war each other or assimilate into one, only exception would be some complete balance between them which by nature of random chance is extremely unlikely).

And then there is the problem with your concept of "ethical features"

Assume that there exist a specific race of aliens that are color blind and thus have no concept of color.
When they look at us humans, do you think they will notice our ethnicity difference?

By the same token, if the "ethnicity" of a race is actually some "energy hue" that is not visible to us, does that make their ethnicity of any importance to us? When we cannot distinct them? Or perhaps their distinction is something that is "subtle" to us that we can see but won't even notice, such as the color of the eye perhaps?

Furthermore, the "race" of canines are vastly different from each other. Who is to say that multiple in game "race" are actually not the same "race" in term of origin/species? Yes there is a back story on all the races, but frankly they are not sufficiently detailed or "well documented" to be certain.

Now I'd say that some customization of avatar would be interesting (which by the way you CAN photoshop yourself, upload as FB avatar and assign as your game avatar). But to assume that it's done by "color" or "hair" etc is a rather ignorant thing.

Author:  Asheron [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ability to choose different ethnicities for...

varunjitsingh146 wrote:
Asheron wrote:
...your chosen species.

Many other games allow us to choose different ethnicities - skin, hair, etc. colors, et al.

(If you say "We're not 'other games'" and don't want us to be like other games, go ahead and suggest that GL be in a color palette used by no other game (over 16m possible colors in all) and in a language that no other game uses (so maybe one spoken on the west side of a river in Indonesia, by 100 tribe members.)

By the way, if you attempt to strike this suggestion down, you might be seen as racist. Let us choose any race/ethnicity we'd like to be in the game by customizing our avatars. Expressing individuality is a virtue and quality of so many peoples worldwide (and maybe even galaxy-wide.) - Asheron

i would +1 this if it wasn't for that.


You might be trollbluffing. If I hadn't have said that, you may have -1'd this just because I submitted it. - Asheron

Author:  varunjitsingh146 [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ability to choose different ethnicities for...

Asheron wrote:
varunjitsingh146 wrote:
Asheron wrote:
...your chosen species.

Many other games allow us to choose different ethnicities - skin, hair, etc. colors, et al.

(If you say "We're not 'other games'" and don't want us to be like other games, go ahead and suggest that GL be in a color palette used by no other game (over 16m possible colors in all) and in a language that no other game uses (so maybe one spoken on the west side of a river in Indonesia, by 100 tribe members.)

By the way, if you attempt to strike this suggestion down, you might be seen as racist. Let us choose any race/ethnicity we'd like to be in the game by customizing our avatars. Expressing individuality is a virtue and quality of so many peoples worldwide (and maybe even galaxy-wide.) - Asheron

i would +1 this if it wasn't for that.


You might be trollbluffing. If I hadn't have said that, you may have -1'd this just because I submitted it. - Asheron

I -1'd due your poor ability to present ideas in a good fashion. It you hadn't pulled out the race card (again) then this idea might do better.

Author:  Asheron [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ability to choose different ethnicities for...

varunjitsingh146 wrote:
I -1'd due your poor ability to present ideas in a good fashion. It you hadn't pulled out the race card (again) then this idea might do better.


This appearing to pull out the race card was actually in light of the fact that this suggestion happened to be about customizing ethnicities for our own avatar. - Asheron

Author:  varunjitsingh146 [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ability to choose different ethnicities for...

Asheron wrote:
varunjitsingh146 wrote:
I -1'd due your poor ability to present ideas in a good fashion. It you hadn't pulled out the race card (again) then this idea might do better.


This appearing to pull out the race card was actually in light of the fact that this suggestion happened to be about customizing ethnicities for our own avatar. - Asheron

It was another one of your dum attempts to get people to support your ideas.

Author:  Hansolocal [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:22 am ]
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Asheron wrote:
Ability to choose different ethnicities for your chosen species.

But I am already black where it counts.

Author:  Hawkeblade [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ability to choose different ethnicities for...

Hansolocal wrote:
Asheron wrote:
Ability to choose different ethnicities for your chosen species.

But I am already black where it counts.


LMAO! good one!

Author:  Dreadlost [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ability to choose different ethnicities for...

-1 idea

Author:  John Falls [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ability to choose different ethnicities for...

Asheron wrote:
...your chosen species.

Many other games allow us to choose different ethnicities - skin, hair, etc. colors, et al.

(If you say "We're not 'other games'" and don't want us to be like other games, go ahead and suggest that GL be in a color palette used by no other game (over 16m possible colors in all) and in a language that no other game uses (so maybe one spoken on the west side of a river in Indonesia, by 100 tribe members.)

By the way, if you attempt to strike this suggestion down, you might be seen as racist. Let us choose any race/ethnicity we'd like to be in the game by customizing our avatars. Expressing individuality is a virtue and quality of so many peoples worldwide (and maybe even galaxy-wide.) - Asheron


From adding this into the game, dan must spend time in creating the coding and everything.
This means, he will not be adding new content like the NCPs he just added, because he would be adding this.

As well, there is no added benefit creating and integrating this into the game. It will be a 5 minuite wonder.
As well, by adding this in. You create discrimination against you. with the skin collours ect, making nasty racist comments
come into the game, making this idea worse. You give a child a grenade, he'll blow himself up. Just like this Idea.

Yes other games have this but this game doesn't require it. Thats a good thing.
Adding this into the game will cause much much much MUCH more problems than that 5 minuite thrill.

As well, With any idea. Do not use Threats or abuse or thing that causes offense. Or try to get your own way.
EVERYONE is entitled to their OWN opinion. If it causes offense, take it up with that player or forums mods.


~JF~

Author:  CC0011 [ Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ability to choose different ethnicities for...

Hah, I don't even post in the forums much and I knew exactly who made this thread without even looking at the author

-1 as it is a waste of time; dan is better off spending his time adding new content (ahem the ability to get zeroed people off your BT for one)

Just stop pulling the race card on everything... Make worthwhile, sensible suggestions and people might +1 them

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