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Author:  DariousTheDark [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:07 pm ]
Post subject:  New Demonic Race
The Hixon
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The Hixon are a savage demonic race who brutally attack first and ask questions later.
20% bonus to ship vs ship Atk.

The Hixons have an ability that can be used on Demon planets only.
It increases all production of the planet by 1, and has a 40 hour cooldown.
It costs 300 energy to use.

In no way is it a play on words with this:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=32940

I came up with the name from my friends band, yes, that's his last name, and he's the singer.
http://www.thehixon.com/
I hope you like hard core metal ;)
Author:  TimeManipulator [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
DariousTheDark wrote:
The Hixon
Image
The Hixon are a savage demonic race who brutally attack first and ask questions later.
20% bonus to ship vs ship Atk. So like a bootleg version of Konqul? Konqul can PvP, Conquer planets AND NPC with 20% bonus attack and this race can only do 1/3s of the Konqul's ability?

The Hixons have an ability that can be used on Demon planets only.
It increases all production of the planet by 1, and has a 40 hour cooldown.
It costs 300 energy to use. OP, a talth, mylarai, kronyn put together. What's the point of that?

I hope you like hard core metal ;)Sorry but no I don't...

Overall a -1.
Author:  varunjitsingh146 [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
RustyTinCan wrote:
DariousTheDark wrote:
The Hixon
Image
The Hixon are a savage demonic race who brutally attack first and ask questions later.
20% bonus to ship vs ship Atk. So like a bootleg version of Konqul? Konqul can PvP, Conquer planets AND NPC with 20% bonus attack and this race can only do 1/3s of the Konqul's ability?

The Hixons have an ability that can be used on Demon planets only.
It increases all production of the planet by 1, and has a 40 hour cooldown.
It costs 300 energy to use. OP, a talth, mylarai, kronyn put together. What's the point of that?

I hope you like hard core metal ;)Sorry but no I don't...

Overall a -1.

It's not that op considering It can only be used on demons. Not the best idea but not the worst either.
Author:  TimeManipulator [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
varunjitsingh146 wrote:
It's not that op considering It can only be used on demons. Not the best idea but not the worst either.

Find a VL Volcan with natural Rings or Stealth Screen, uplift this planet with this OP OP race, use two QSEs, a reality transfuser (2x Permanent Effect), use 5 Crystals (Once it reaches 15x/15x/15x) then use Thermionic Intensifier to get a Colossal + SS + Rings/Moons with 16x21x16x stats. Tell me that it isn't Op'er than a normal Talth having extra mining and research? Stop sucking up ffs.
Author:  varunjitsingh146 [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
RustyTinCan wrote:
varunjitsingh146 wrote:
It's not that op considering It can only be used on demons. Not the best idea but not the worst either.

Find a VL Volcan with natural Rings or Stealth Screen, uplift this planet with this OP OP race, use two QSEs, a reality transfuser (2x Permanent Effect), use 5 Crystals (Once it reaches 15x/15x/15x) then use Thermionic Intensifier to get a Colossal + SS + Rings/Moons with 16x21x16x stats. Tell me that it isn't Op'er than a normal Talth having extra mining and research? Stop sucking up ffs.

He said it can only be used on demons. And sucking up eh? Nah I just enjoy getting you riled up :D
Author:  TimeManipulator [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
varunjitsingh146 wrote:
RustyTinCan wrote:
varunjitsingh146 wrote:
It's not that op considering It can only be used on demons. Not the best idea but not the worst either.

Find a VL Volcanic with natural Rings or Stealth Screen, uplift this planet with this OP OP race, use two QSEs, a reality transfuser (2x Permanent Effect), use 5 Crystals (Once it reaches 15x/15x/15x) then use Thermionic Intensifier to get a Colossal + SS + Rings/Moons with 16x21x16x stats. Tell me that it isn't Op'er than a normal Talth having extra mining and research? Stop sucking up ffs.

He said it can only be used on demons. And sucking up eh? Nah I just enjoy getting you riled up :D

Oh snap you got me there :roll: , Use 2 QSEs on a VL + SS/Rings Volcanic, Use Thermionic Intensifier, build it up to 15x/15x/15x then use 5 Crystals, to make it a 15x/20x/15x. Oh noes... you've lost 1x on each resources now it's not OP anymore right Varun? :roll:
Author:  Mwchism [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
I like that people are coming up with ideas, but I agree with RustyTinCan, the 20% to pvp attack is bascially useless because you get that and more from konqul. And the ability is OP.
Author:  DariousTheDark [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
So let's make it 20% pvp & 20% raiding ability.
Profession : Miner, Hacker, Raider

Unlocked as a mission race for levels 300 and up.

Increases all production of planet by 1. (if not stated, was implied)
Author:  KJReed [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
Its not really op because with talth you don't have to use those qses
Author:  varunjitsingh146 [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
I never said you didn't have a point I simply stated my opinion. Instead of calling me a suckup how about you learn to point out flaws in a persons logic by telling them where their wrong instead of losing your temper. Now chill out ;)
Author:  Mwchism [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
KJReed wrote:
Its not really op because with talth you don't have to use those qses

But its basically Talth mylarai and kronyn put together
Author:  TimeManipulator [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
KJReed wrote:
Its not really op because with talth you don't have to use those qses

On a VM very sparse Gas? That'll take longer but if you want to not waste Qses that's the way to do it but other than that having extra two resources as an uplift is OP.
Author:  KJReed [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
RustyTinCan wrote:
KJReed wrote:
Its not really op because with talth you don't have to use those qses

On a VM very sparse Gas? That'll take longer but if you want to not waste Qses that's the way to do it but other than that having extra two resources as an uplift is OP.

Are those other two that much of a factor? if its maxed on arti the other resources are of minor importance.
Make it cap like terraformers so most likely 15 isn't happening.
Volcanics arti richness isn't all that much greater than burning anyways.
If this makes a bunch of people buy qses thats great. Don't see it happening though.
Longer timer maybe, with a chain greater in length than the three combined.
To those screaming op: would you switch? Hands down no doubt?
Author:  failname [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
KJReed wrote:
RustyTinCan wrote:
KJReed wrote:
Its not really op because with talth you don't have to use those qses

On a VM very sparse Gas? That'll take longer but if you want to not waste Qses that's the way to do it but other than that having extra two resources as an uplift is OP.

Are those other two that much of a factor? if its maxed on arti the other resources are of minor importance.
Make it cap like terraformers so most likely 15 isn't happening.
Volcanics arti richness isn't all that much greater than burning anyways.
If this makes a bunch of people buy qses thats great. Don't see it happening though.
Longer timer maybe, with a chain greater in length than the three combined.
To those screaming op: would you switch? Hands down no doubt?

Wouldnt really be OP if you have to complete talth mylarai and kronyn chains to unlock a mission that's just as much or more as taltherain chain, and costs like 20 terraformes
Author:  Fenix [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
The +20% attack vs ships should be made into a profession (Destroyer?) and increased to +30% so it doesn't look like some nerfed Konqul.

As for the racial ability used for Demon planets, it's fitting but I'm not sure where I stand on that in terms of game balance.
Author:  varunjitsingh146 [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
Fenix wrote:
The +20% attack vs ships should be made into a profession (Destroyer?) and increased to +30% so it doesn't look like some nerfed Konqul.

As for the racial ability used for Demon planets, it's fitting but I'm not sure where I stand on that in terms of game balance.

What if it only increase the planet's best resource. Would that be ok with everyone?
Author:  Wolfy Minion [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
It is not OP it is just kind of terrible. I am personally making my demons into 15x res just to get more credits out of them.

The bonus att in pvp..if it was higher maybe, but no to raid bonus just not a good idea to have so many bonuses from being one race. That being said either pvp only or the ability only not both.

Personally I would rather see its ability like 100% bonus production on a demon planet for 3 days CD of a day so you can make a few good demons and use this ability.

Even if that was the ability I personally wont change it is at best like 4k bonus AP as oppose to talth that can be infinite bonus production.
Author:  Devastation [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
Guys, it can only be used on Demon planets, which means it's far from OP. The highest you can get it without the use of Enumeration Crystals or Trellith Resequencers, is 15x. The same as most planets. You can't even make it 16x, because it's already a Demon. You've got to first find a suitable Volcanic, Demonize it, then uplift it. As mentioned earlier, Volcanics have bad Artifact stats, meaning it could take much longer to uplift than Taltherian.

I suggest 20% attack, and a 20% Attack bonus to all planets you own. Sort of like a nerfed Xecti. The 20% raiding bonus would still apply.
Author:  KJReed [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
Youre adding way too much. It can't new a nerfed konqul talth kronym mylari xecti raider for just the race.
Author:  Devastation [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New Demonic Race
Ok, have raider as a profession, and have it only 20% attack and the planet bonus and uplift ability.
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