replacement to troop carriers etc for rank 2200+
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markyt2011
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no idea on full stats for these but something that is as rare as the troop carriers etc are for sub 2200 ranks but drops planet fluxes, QSE's or http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... esequencerdrop rates etc would need ironing out, worse case the Trellith Resequencer is swapped for something that does the same but only up to 15x on any resource instead of the 20x from the mission one. sorry if this has already been suggested.
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KxG Ryoko
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No.
There are 12 people who are above rank 2200. Of that, atleast 66% of them KNEW about the loss of specific npcs after that rank and continued on anyway.
Those who knew and decided to ignore the sign, should get absolutely nothing. In time where there are more than 300 rank 2200+ players, then I feel that it should be 'fixed'.
We have calls and feet stamping for exclusively high rank content, and now we have calls for content to be added for an even smaller number of players.
So again, No to replacing troop carriers or any similar npc as the majority of the players in this situation willfully put themselves there and should be forced to sleep in the bed they themselves have made.
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KxG Ryoko wrote: No.
There are 12 people who are above rank 2200. Of that, atleast 66% of them KNEW about the loss of specific npcs after that rank and continued on anyway.
Those who knew and decided to ignore the sign, should get absolutely nothing. In time where there are more than 300 rank 2200+ players, then I feel that it should be 'fixed'.
We have calls and feet stamping for exclusively high rank content, and now we have calls for content to be fixed for an even smaller number of players.
So again, No to replacing troop carriers or any similar npc as the majority of the players in this situation willfully put themselves there and should be forced to sleep in the bed they themselves have made. This argument bores me, so much. They did not put themselves there, time put them there. It's only a matter of time before anyone reaches rank 2200. Everyone affected by this has played for 3+ years. Back when BinaryMan "discovered" this, we couldn't be 100% sure.
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namalak
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KxG Ryoko wrote: No.
There are 12 people who are above rank 2200. Of that, atleast 66% of them KNEW about the loss of specific npcs after that rank and continued on anyway.
Those who knew and decided to ignore the sign, should get absolutely nothing. In time where there are more than 300 rank 2200+ players, then I feel that it should be 'fixed'.
We have calls and feet stamping for exclusively high rank content, and now we have calls for content to be added for an even smaller number of players.
So again, No to replacing troop carriers or any similar npc as the majority of the players in this situation willfully put themselves there and should be forced to sleep in the bed they themselves have made. And of course you should be the one to say "No" being... uhm... who?
High ranked players should be punished for playing this game too much. That is the message that is being passed on because of this decision and carried through by the inaction despite obviously seeing the need and saying nothing.
But since you said "No", I guess I should just accept it... with you being who you are.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:46 pm |
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markyt2011
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KxG Ryoko wrote: No.
There are 12 people who are above rank 2200. Of that, atleast 66% of them KNEW about the loss of specific npcs after that rank and continued on anyway.
Those who knew and decided to ignore the sign, should get absolutely nothing. In time where there are more than 300 rank 2200+ players, then I feel that it should be 'fixed'.
We have calls and feet stamping for exclusively high rank content, and now we have calls for content to be added for an even smaller number of players.
So again, No to replacing troop carriers or any similar npc as the majority of the players in this situation willfully put themselves there and should be forced to sleep in the bed they themselves have made. if the game last for years to come then there are going to be a good load more players ranked 2200+ unless we all decide we best slow down but for some that is not a option, the game is to be played and for a few and slowly more that means you end up ranking and end up over rank 2200. i've got almost 1k ranks to go but i'd like to get something out there that might be easy to do sooner rather than later otherwise rank 2200 means the start of doing purger missions over and over then invading any good planets you find if you're lucky as upgrading any for yourself become impossible. a artifact like the TR i've suggested will most likely be use only for upgrading artifact output but gives the option to balance planets out to those that want to, prob best to 15x and not 20x like the limited mission reward artifact though.
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Christian.Carson.37
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KxG Ryoko wrote: No.
There are 12 people who are above rank 2200. Of that, atleast 66% of them KNEW about the loss of specific npcs after that rank and continued on anyway.
Those who knew and decided to ignore the sign, should get absolutely nothing. In time where there are more than 300 rank 2200+ players, then I feel that it should be 'fixed'.
We have calls and feet stamping for exclusively high rank content, and now we have calls for content to be added for an even smaller number of players.
So again, No to replacing troop carriers or any similar npc as the majority of the players in this situation willfully put themselves there and should be forced to sleep in the bed they themselves have made. Good God I cannot wait until you're past 2200 and you realize how much Troop Carriers need to come back.
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KxG Ryoko
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Once again, atleast 8 of the players being affected by this knew it would happen and continued to race ahead anyway.
Dan's already said that he'll get around to fixing it, so kindly shut the hell up~
He delayed the release of the GTC, He's delayed the change to npcs. Shut up and wait for feck sake.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:14 pm |
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markyt2011
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KxG Ryoko wrote: Once again, atleast 8 of the players being affected by this knew it would happen and continued to race ahead anyway.
Dan's already said that he'll get around to fixing it, so kindly shut the hell up~
He delayed the release of the GTC, He's delayed the change to npcs. Shut up and wait for feck sake. sure this is called suggestions and ideas..... this was mine as a replacement for blade harvesters, rouge labpods, troop carriers and dark carriers as it would give a % chance on a item that would give the same or similar artifact to help make it possible to still upgrade planets output with the chance of a planet flux or QSE.
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XxDarthDexterxX wrote: They did not put themselves there, time put them there. It's only a matter of time before anyone reaches rank 2200. Everyone affected by this has played for 3+ years. Exactly. The amount of time these players have put into the game, advice and help they've given to smaller players (Nam's four or five Imperiums anyone?) and probably brought newer people into the game means they should be rewarded for their loyalty. To the original post, there have been different suggestions regarding replacements to troop carriers, but I'm not sure about them dropping a replacement to the Trellith Resequencer.
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-1 to dropping Trellith Resequencers, Dan just has to change a few numbers and the troop carriers will be back...why he hasn't yet I dunno 
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:48 pm |
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namalak
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KxG Ryoko wrote: Once again, atleast 8 of the players being affected by this knew it would happen and continued to race ahead anyway.
Dan's already said that he'll get around to fixing it, so kindly shut the hell up~
He delayed the release of the GTC, He's delayed the change to npcs. Shut up and wait for feck sake. Oh, I already shut up about it after you declined the request.
After all, who am I do disregard the judgement of someone of your status and esteem within the GL community, who obviously knows exactly how the game decisions are made and has generously made a personal indepth study into the timelines associated with this issue, and knows that Dan has said this would be fixed. Oh, where was this said? I do not know enough about the issue to claim that Dan said he would get around to fixing it... but you are a person of great integrity so I am positive you are speaking from pure knowledge and stating only facts.
And you are absolutely correct. We should be quiet about it and Dan will just fix it when he gets a chance. This is still a very new problem and probably has not existed for over a year. That would be ridiculous and you obviously know what is best and are the one most informed.
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KxG Ryoko
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namalak wrote: KxG Ryoko wrote: Once again, atleast 8 of the players being affected by this knew it would happen and continued to race ahead anyway.
Dan's already said that he'll get around to fixing it, so kindly shut the hell up~
He delayed the release of the GTC, He's delayed the change to npcs. Shut up and wait for feck sake. Oh, I already shut up about it after you declined the request.
After all, who am I do disregard the judgement of someone of your status and esteem within the GL community, who obviously knows exactly how the game decisions are made and has generously made a personal indepth study into the timelines associated with this issue, and knows that Dan has said this would be fixed. Oh, where was this said? I do not know enough about the issue to claim that Dan said he would get around to fixing it... but you are a person of great integrity so I am positive you are speaking from pure knowledge and stating only facts.
And you are absolutely correct. We should be quiet about it and Dan will just fix it when he gets a chance. This is still a very new problem and probably has not existed for over a year. That would be ridiculous and you obviously know what is best and are the one most informed.Maude wrote: This issue will be addressed but right now resources are being focused on legion missions. Please bare with us. This quote was taken from your OWN thread, on the third page. Now, while this isn't directly from Dan (As I know you'll use in your 'counterpoint'), It is from a Mod who would infact know what is in the works. You know of this, and act as if you have no information. As a point Nam, your status and esteem in GL mean very little~ You may have build training legions single handedly, you may have helped alot of people, but it means nothing to the game from a development viewpoint.
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KxG Ryoko wrote: No.
There are 12 people who are above rank 2200. Of that, atleast 66% of them KNEW about the loss of specific npcs after that rank and continued on anyway.
Those who knew and decided to ignore the sign, should get absolutely nothing. In time where there are more than 300 rank 2200+ players, then I feel that it should be 'fixed'.
We have calls and feet stamping for exclusively high rank content, and now we have calls for content to be added for an even smaller number of players.
So again, No to replacing troop carriers or any similar npc as the majority of the players in this situation willfully put themselves there and should be forced to sleep in the bed they themselves have made. Two things: A lot of Dan's money comes from these autorankers who autoranked past rank 2200. Shutting them off is a means of discouraging autoranking, which is something Dan wants, but at the expense of his wallet. If we don't cater to these rank 2200+ then eventually we will to that rank with time and become as fustrated, upset, and disappointed as Namalak is with NPCs. So what you're basically saying is that Dan is punishing them for enjoying the game too much? But enjoyment of a game is the ultimate goal and purpose of a game. That sounds wrong to me. What you're saying is that the older playerbase that Dan has tried so hard to recruit, the ones who've been with the game in its early days, should be the ones to suffer for supporting the game? That just sounds really messed up.
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namalak
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KxG Ryoko wrote: Maude wrote: This issue will be addressed but right now resources are being focused on legion missions. Please bare with us. This quote was taken from your OWN thread, on the third page. Now, while this isn't directly from Dan (As I know you'll use in your 'counterpoint'), It is from a Mod who would infact know what is in the works. You know of this, and act as if you have no information. As a point Nam, your status and esteem in GL mean very little~ You may have build training legions single handedly, you may have helped alot of people, but it means nothing to the game from a development viewpoint. Oh, I know well of my own thread, almost as much as you do not get sarcasm. And I know enough to be able to confidently say that Maude's efforts and single comment stated nearly 2 months ago do not necessarily equal effort on Dan's part.
I like Maude and appreciate the effort he or she put in to helping get this issue to Dan... but the decision is not Maude's to make. And you stating that Maude speaks for Dan, well, let's just say the statements I made about your knowledge could be construed as sarcasm. This is you spreading false rumors of Dan making promises he never has. Which is a large part of the problem.
I stand by my words, I stand by my actions, I stand by my reputation, and I certainly do not think that I can make decisions for the developers of Galaxy Legion. And if someone like me does not speak for the developers, and Maude does not always speak for the developers, what makes you think you, a leader of a legion of 14 people (3 inactive) at rank 420, are the one to be their voice?
I look forward to seeing your résumé with full qualifications for knowing it all.
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markyt2011
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LukeD wrote: XxDarthDexterxX wrote: They did not put themselves there, time put them there. It's only a matter of time before anyone reaches rank 2200. Everyone affected by this has played for 3+ years. Exactly. The amount of time these players have put into the game, advice and help they've given to smaller players (Nam's four or five Imperiums anyone?) and probably brought newer people into the game means they should be rewarded for their loyalty. To the original post, there have been different suggestions regarding replacements to troop carriers, but I'm not sure about them dropping a replacement to the Trellith Resequencer. the idea was a arty like it, just does to 15x although keeping the npcs that upgrade planets for sub rank 2200 would be better 
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KxG Ryoko
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namalak wrote: KxG Ryoko wrote: Maude wrote: This issue will be addressed but right now resources are being focused on legion missions. Please bare with us. This quote was taken from your OWN thread, on the third page. Now, while this isn't directly from Dan (As I know you'll use in your 'counterpoint'), It is from a Mod who would infact know what is in the works. You know of this, and act as if you have no information. As a point Nam, your status and esteem in GL mean very little~ You may have build training legions single handedly, you may have helped alot of people, but it means nothing to the game from a development viewpoint. Oh, I know well of my own thread, almost as much as you do not get sarcasm. And I know enough to be able to confidently say that Maude's efforts and single comment stated nearly 2 months ago do not necessarily equal effort on Dan's part.
I like Maude and appreciate the effort he or she put in to helping get this issue to Dan... but the decision is not Maude's to make. And you stating that Maude speaks for Dan, well, let's just say the statements I made about your knowledge could be construed as sarcasm. This is you spreading false rumors of Dan making promises he never has. Which is a large part of the problem.
I stand by my words, I stand by my actions, I stand by my reputation, and I certainly do not think that I can make decisions for the developers of Galaxy Legion. And if someone like me does not speak for the developers, and Maude does not always speak for the developers, what makes you think you, a leader of a legion of 14 people (3 inactive) at rank 420, are the one to be their voice?
I look forward to seeing your résumé with full qualifications for knowing it all. I tend to ignore sarcasm because it's a rather low intelligence way of displaying disagreement with a given opinion. As for Maude's comment, while it may not have been directly from Dan, do you honestly believe she would say something like that if Dan wasn't going to honour it? If you can't make the decisions for them, then stop attempting to decide what should or should not be available to rank 2200+players. With that, I gracefully bow out of this discussion as I have better things to do, better games to play, and money to spend on far more important and tangiable things. Good day~
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namalak
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KxG Ryoko wrote: I tend to ignore sarcasm because it's a rather low intelligence way of displaying disagreement with a given opinion.
As for Maude's comment, while it may not have been directly from Dan, do you honestly believe she would say something like that if Dan wasn't going to honour it?
If you can't make the decisions for them, then stop attempting to decide what should or should not be available to rank 2200+players.
With that, I gracefully bow out of this discussion as I have better things to do, better games to play, and money to spend on far more important and tangiable things.
Good day~ Sarcasm is an artform in itself used to help people who step in it to take a sniff to realize for themselves how they are presenting themselves, hopefully without directly pointing out their own flaws. Apparently you are another person who does not quite understand and needs someone to point things out to you. Saying I lack intelligence? If you SERIOUSLY thought that was not a completely sarcastic quote... Wow... Just wow...
As for Maude's quote, that is something you might have to ask Maude about. I know I did.
And I never said I was making the decision, I am asking for one. I know the choices I get to make and they have been directly affected by the (in)decision. Planning. Thought. Considerations. Things that those of us with 'low intelligence' do. That was sarcasm by the way.
Probably best you do walk away. Come back when you have something worth adding.
To you I say GOOD DAY!
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@ KxG Ryoko, What do you even care?
To start. You have played the game for a long time yet seem to be VERY low rank. so GL has to be like a side game at base. or in a 14 person legion with a 79% active. Seems like you don't care to play GL alot or even spend cash on it. Have u ever even added cash to the game or even plan to??
Just seems like your a random kid who some times plays this game every now and then. why do you care if the people who do suport this game and play it a lot do or dont get containt back??
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:34 pm |
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Two things:
1) "It only affects a small number of people" is a stupid argument. Your level can only go up in this game - you can freeze it, but if you do *anything,* it will keep going up. This is a problem that will only get worse and right now CAN only get worse. How many people need to be screwed over and/or leave the game for this to be fixed? Even crazier is that the people at 2200+ are Dan's biggest customers! They don't need to be coddled, but who the heck gives the finger to his high-paying regulars?
2) The easiest fix would be *absurdly easy* to code. Go in and change one number from 2,200 to 9,999. DONE. Just like he ALREADY DID with Queens and Fab Plants. Unless the game's code is an insane, non-Euclidean labyrinth, this should take like two minutes. If he really wants to plan some sort of rebalance to Carriers for high ranks, make this fix first and THEN make a more elaborate change later. This is clearly and oversight leftover from the days when a Rank 500 was godly powerful. Just fix it, and then if you really need some other way to drive off your most dedicated, well-paying players, come up with something more permanent.
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Toastar wrote: Two things:
1) "It only affects a small number of people" is a stupid argument. Your level can only go up in this game - you can freeze it, but if you do *anything,* it will keep going up. This is a problem that will only get worse and right now CAN only get worse. How many people need to be screwed over and/or leave the game for this to be fixed? Even crazier is that the people at 2200+ are Dan's biggest customers! They don't need to be coddled, but who the heck gives the finger to his high-paying regulars?
2) The easiest fix would be *absurdly easy* to code. Go in and change one number from 2,200 to 9,999. DONE. Just like he ALREADY DID with Queens and Fab Plants. Unless the game's code is an insane, non-Euclidean labyrinth, this should take like two minutes. If he really wants to plan some sort of rebalance to Carriers for high ranks, make this fix first and THEN make a more elaborate change later. This is clearly and oversight leftover from the days when a Rank 500 was godly powerful. Just fix it, and then if you really need some other way to drive off your most dedicated, well-paying players, come up with something more permanent. +1
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