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Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:34 pm Posts: 108 
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 So a friend of mine is in a legion, and Everyone left. except for the inactives. This includes the leader. I would like to suggest an in game way to become a Leader of a Legion if they are inactive.
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| Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:46 am |
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 Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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I may be wrong but I think the new legion government system being worked on may provide a solution to this issue.
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| Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:49 am |
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Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:34 pm Posts: 108
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Really? I havent seen this! I will start looking on the forums for update sort of stuff...in the event my search fu fails me could you provide a link to upcoming possible changes where info could be found on this?
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| Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:53 am |
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Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:34 pm Posts: 108
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well i just looked up and saw the topic there...but it doesnt have any details...it might be nice if a sentence or two was added for these sort of things...
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| Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:57 am |
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Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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webguydan wrote: Currently, legions are setup as hierarchies, with the leader(s) having absolute power. We shelved Legion Governments from the drawing board a while back, but it sounds like its finally time to bring those ideas back to the burner. Here are our current thoughts on a potential change (we can call it governments again for simplicity): Voting Majority (Democracy) - in this mode, all membership-related decisions* require a majority vote from active legion members. Voting Council (Oligarchy) - in this mode, all membership-related decisions* require a majority vote from active officers and leaders. Hierarchy (Empire) - in this mode, actions do not require a vote and the leader(s) have absolute authority to make decisions. [This is the current setup for existing legions] * Membership-related decisions include kicking, disbanding, promotion/demotion, and changing the legion government. Legions would initially choose which type of government they want. When voting, decisions are 'queued' until a vote finishes, and is either accepted by vote, rejected by vote, or rejected due to insufficient votes after a set time passes. A new 'Votes' area will collect these votes from within the legion, and notifications will be sent out via the legion comm. Voting results will remain on record for 30 days. In Voting Majority and Voting Council modes, a 'Nominate Leader' option would also be available, which will vote on an the addition of another Leader. Regarding the many ideas proposed for a cooldown on kicking: though that would certainly be an option, it would only slow down a leader from making decisions that the majority of the legion did not agree with, but it would not prevent it. Quote from Dan. In the event of an inactive leader i'm guessing the membership would vote on the course of action. _________________ Creator of Alpha Legion 100, The Robot Alliance, Galactic Historian Society, Galactic Entertainment Center, The Guidebook, and Fan-Forums. 2012 Player Of The Year. The Artists' Guild Member. |
| Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:05 am |
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Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:34 pm Posts: 108
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my search fu failed me Thank you!
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| Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:07 am |
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 Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:08 pm Posts: 509 Location: Lavender Town
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totalitarian system please
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| Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:16 am |
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Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 10:43 pm Posts: 769
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SovietOfficer wrote: totalitarian system please Judging by your signature, you enjoy communism?  _________________ Don't mess. With my pie. |
| Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:03 pm |
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Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:08 pm Posts: 509 Location: Lavender Town
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imrockerman wrote: SovietOfficer wrote: totalitarian system please Judging by your signature, you enjoy communism? Hey don't get me wrong, I am all about fairness and equality, I just refuse to be uprooted simply because a few people don't like the decisions of those who not only made the legion but made it what it is today. I give my members say and always ask their opinion's on such matters even if it doesn't concern them, Power to the people yes, I just don't want to be seen as a king to my fellow comrades. I would much prefer we create our own ranking system in the legion, who are the ones in command, fallowed by such n such, you get the gist of it. P.S. I do personally believe in some forum of communism, just to answer your assumption. _________________ "The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways, but the point is to change it" |
| Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:21 pm |
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 Joined: Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:43 pm Posts: 444
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If the current system is in the choices why change anything at all....all legions that want complete power now wont do anything and so this changing is just a big waste of time for all involved
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| Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:32 pm |
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Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:08 pm Posts: 509 Location: Lavender Town
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Awesome813 wrote: If the current system is in the choices why change anything at all....all legions that want complete power now wont do anything and so this changing is just a big waste of time for all involved Its in the (TBD) to be discussed section, so no update at all until every's at least said their peace on it. ( My idea on having legions create their own systems of ranking is a good way to go tho ) _________________ "The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways, but the point is to change it" |
| Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:40 pm |
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Joined: Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:43 pm Posts: 444
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Im just saying that option shouldnt be included
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| Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:50 pm |
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 Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 11:01 am Posts: 5825 Location: Zolar
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Awesome, it definitely should. It's the most efficient and the most practical way of running a legion. Sadly, many players will look for democracies, which means aspects of leadership will suffer, such as quick decision making etc. I'm of the mind it shouldn't be implemented, basically.
I talk with the officers of my legion a lot regarding any important decision making. I'll talk to members when it affects them too. I get their opinion, but it's almost that security blanket to have the final say. 99% of the time I'll go with the majority, but I want to be prepared for that 1%. _________________     |
| Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:59 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:24 pm Posts: 359 Location: Houston, TX
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I hope it doesn't require a vote to defend the base. Some pretty easy kills in the making there.
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| Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:25 pm |
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 Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:16 pm Posts: 824
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varunjitsingh146 wrote: webguydan wrote: Currently, legions are setup as hierarchies, with the leader(s) having absolute power. We shelved Legion Governments from the drawing board a while back, but it sounds like its finally time to bring those ideas back to the burner. Here are our current thoughts on a potential change (we can call it governments again for simplicity): Voting Majority (Democracy) - in this mode, all membership-related decisions* require a majority vote from active legion members. Voting Council (Oligarchy) - in this mode, all membership-related decisions* require a majority vote from active officers and leaders. Hierarchy (Empire) - in this mode, actions do not require a vote and the leader(s) have absolute authority to make decisions. [This is the current setup for existing legions] * Membership-related decisions include kicking, disbanding, promotion/demotion, and changing the legion government. Legions would initially choose which type of government they want. When voting, decisions are 'queued' until a vote finishes, and is either accepted by vote, rejected by vote, or rejected due to insufficient votes after a set time passes. A new 'Votes' area will collect these votes from within the legion, and notifications will be sent out via the legion comm. Voting results will remain on record for 30 days. In Voting Majority and Voting Council modes, a 'Nominate Leader' option would also be available, which will vote on an the addition of another Leader. Regarding the many ideas proposed for a cooldown on kicking: though that would certainly be an option, it would only slow down a leader from making decisions that the majority of the legion did not agree with, but it would not prevent it. Quote from Dan. In the event of an inactive leader i'm guessing the membership would vote on the course of action. I agree with the idea of having a more than one person rule for kicking. Usually, when a legion works well, it is discussed as a last recourse among officers and leaders. But a more than one person rule would be nice as a safeguard against impulsiveness. At the same time, some have taken the responsibility of kicking inactives according to each legion rules. It isn't an easy task but it is unfortunately necessary when a member goes inactive without prior notification and without news from him/her. So the process shouldn't be too arduous while at the same time, going through confirmation. I still think that leaders are entrusted with, among other things, taking care of things while keeping discrete and remaining tactful. Leadership privilege and responsibility. I wish to suggest that new data labels be added for the legion post with the same administrative level as member while displaying honored long time membership. Many are officers as recognition, it would lighten the chain of command while maintaining recognition. Leaders would attribute these. Examples : ambassador, commodore, etc. Plamok _________________  |
| Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:42 am |
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Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:34 pm Posts: 108
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Hehe seems we went a little off topic. Does anyone have any concerns about the original idea? I thought of one, Have a minimum inactive time period that way its not like one day being inactive someone else becomes the leader and the next day the original leader comes back.
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