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Andy
Joined: Sun May 09, 2010 3:49 pm Posts: 253
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Really? A 10 billion maintenance cost? Who can afford that?
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:44 pm |
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Spaceman
Joined: Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:30 pm Posts: 903
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Holy #&$# until you mentioned that i didn't even realize On top of the 200 billion + 2.5k ctp cost to install i say Thats far too much
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:46 pm |
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StolenPlanet
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:54 am Posts: 1208
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Spaceman wrote: Holy #&$# until you mentioned that i didn't even realize On top of the 200 billion + 2.5k ctp cost to install i say Thats far too much Yeah, I bit the bullet on that one for the legion. If you were already struggling to pay ship upkeep or base upkeep, then this is definitely not for you.
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brandnew99
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:55 pm |
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Fireblade
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:42 am Posts: 1148
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Dan said this was for high ranks so don't complain hen the costs are high...
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Christian.Carson.37
Joined: Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:51 am Posts: 519
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Fireblade225 wrote: Dan said this was for high ranks so don't complain hen the costs are high... This.
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Devastation
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:17 pm Posts: 3632 Location: Gone.
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Fireblade225 wrote: Dan said this was for high ranks so don't complain hen the costs are high... Please direct me to a post where he's said this. I've never seen it.
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acceber
Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 7:12 pm Posts: 16
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releasing content that's only for the top 10% of a game is never a good idea. It just creates massive disparities between higher and lower players. I get wanting to add something for higher level players to keep them interested, but this is a -huge- 'screw you' to any legion that doesn't have an average level of 300 or 400+ And 'costs' can mean more than cash--Some of these missions are extremely difficult (one you have to scan 20 BLUE gas planets, and use a 400e artifact on them within 5 minutes of scanning them, cannot be used on legion shares) think about how many planets it takes to scan 20 gas, not to mention 20 BLUE ones. Most people would only be able to complete this mission once every 6 months (since they'd have to scan 300+ planets, and then wait to get purgers in order to do it again) I consider that 'cost' prohibitive enough. Destroying a lot of legions fiscally is a bit extreme. Legion missions should be something for everyone, not just the people on the dysonians battle-pact list =p
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failname
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:13 am Posts: 1695
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acceber wrote: releasing content that's only for the top 10% of a game is never a good idea. It just creates massive disparities between higher and lower players. I get wanting to add something for higher level players to keep them interested, but this is a -huge- 'screw you' to any legion that doesn't have an average level of 300 or 400+
Legion missions should be something for everyone, not just the people on the dysonians battle-pact list =p The legion missions is maybe 1% of the content, don't complain. low ranks still have MUCH more content, this is simply comparable to endgame content in MMORPGs
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:51 pm |
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thunderbolta
Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 11:01 am Posts: 5825 Location: Zolar
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I don't get it. Xeno-Diplomacy, 15 members, level 4 base - all very easy requirements... and then BOOM! 10B upkeep. It's such easy actual requirements, then a harsh soft-requirement.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:41 pm |
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Feldshan
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 1:57 pm Posts: 172
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thunderbolta wrote: I don't get it. Xeno-Diplomacy, 15 members, level 4 base - all very easy requirements... and then BOOM! 10B upkeep. It's such easy actual requirements, then a harsh soft-requirement. Yeah that sounds like a 40 member lv 6 or 7 base type of mod. I think we need the mod to be a lv 2 or 3 type where you start with a lv 1 mod that only needs 10 legion members and gets you easy missions, then a lv 2 mod that needs 20 legion members and gets you easy and medium missions and then a lv 3 mod that needs 30 to 40 members and allows you to have all missions.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:45 pm |
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StolenPlanet
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:54 am Posts: 1208
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completely off topic, but bases should have always had a legion membership requirement actually. if you want to cut down on some of the smaller number legions, make it where you have to have x number of people to make x size base. 20 for a lvl 3 base, 30 for a lvl 4 base, etc. not to be a hater, but it would have also cut down on Namalak being able to solo build two of them. hahaha 
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:58 pm |
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blackfox
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 8:32 pm Posts: 2397
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Fireblade225 wrote: Dan said this was for high ranks so don't complain hen the costs are high... even bloody so , one of the top legion upkeep is 16b on its own without that, so if they have that its 26b everyday cmon bro even i think thats way overpriced COST 200,000,000,000 fair enough UPKEEP 5B that is fair CTP 2500 fair enough
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:01 pm |
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Feldshan
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 1:57 pm Posts: 172
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A standard lv 4 base would have less then 5B upkeep before this mod is added to their base, I think this is a bit much to more then double the upkeep for what looks like a mid level base.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:08 pm |
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thunderbolta
Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 11:01 am Posts: 5825 Location: Zolar
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Agreed. At level 5, our base is just shy of 5B on upkeep, so the requirements and the costs don't really add up.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:11 pm |
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KJReed
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:08 am Posts: 3142
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thunderbolta wrote: Agreed. At level 5, our base is just shy of 5B on upkeep, so the requirements and the costs don't really add up. so you are saying the requirements should be higher? so more people can complain?? 
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:13 pm |
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Fireblade
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:42 am Posts: 1148
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yes our base upkeep is 26b a day and we wont even notice the increase i can cover the entire base upkeep along with my own with just my own credits i make per day with 60 legion mates we really not going to struggle.
Like i said before high rank content for higher ranking players if you want to do it earlier you are going to struggle,
Bring it down to 5b then smaller guys will complain 5b is to much bring it down etc etc the module and upkeep is fine.
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blackfox
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 8:32 pm Posts: 2397
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credits : 200,000,000,000 fair enough for what it has to offer
upkeep : 5b..... 10b is just way to much, my legion is already at 5b on its own and there's no way i can support 15b everyday 10b ..just
2500ctp fair enough
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:15 pm |
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varunjitsingh146
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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as a leader of a smaller ranking legion i should probably support this.. but -1 dan said from the beginning this would be for higher ranking players. if you can't afford it then be patient and let yourself and your legionmates grow.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:17 pm |
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thunderbolta
Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 11:01 am Posts: 5825 Location: Zolar
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KJReed wrote: thunderbolta wrote: Agreed. At level 5, our base is just shy of 5B on upkeep, so the requirements and the costs don't really add up. so you are saying the requirements should be higher? so more people can complain??  It would make more sense, certainly. Yes, either the hard requirement should be higher, or the costs lower. If it's high rank content (and from the little I've heard on energy costs, it certainly is) then it should actually be, y'know, high rank content.
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