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Author:  ODragon [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Research Upgrade (Alien Data Disks and Daily Rewards)

Once you hit around level 100, these two things are not really worth it. 700 RP is less than 1/8th of what I make in an hour. The daily bonus I got today was barely over half-an-hour worth of research.

I would like to see the daily bonus be an actual bonus, maybe 4x hourly or something that will mean something. When I get credits, they are usually worth at least 2-3 hours worth of mineral production.

I would also like to see the following:
Small Alien Data Disk (700 RP) = 700 AP
Medium Alien Data Disk (2000 RP) = 2000 AP
Large Alien Data Disk (7000 RP) = 7000 AP
Mega Alien Data Disk (12000 RP) = 12000 AP

Author:  zophah [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Research Upgrade (Alien Data Disks and Daily Rewards)

ODragon wrote:
Once you hit around level 100, these two things are not really worth it. 700 RP is less than 1/8th of what I make in an hour. The daily bonus I got today was barely over half-an-hour worth of research.

I would like to see the daily bonus be an actual bonus, maybe 4x hourly or something that will mean something. When I get credits, they are usually worth at least 2-3 hours worth of mineral production.

I would also like to see the following:
Small Alien Data Disk (700 RP) = 700 AP
Medium Alien Data Disk (2000 RP) = 2000 AP
Large Alien Data Disk (7000 RP) = 7000 AP
Mega Alien Data Disk (12000 RP) = 12000 AP

First idea: good.
Second idea: already mentioned.

Author:  ODragon [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Research Upgrade (Alien Data Disks and Daily Rewards)

zophah wrote:
Second idea: already mentioned.

I know, just reinforcing since it fit the topic well. I think it's been mentioned before then also.

Author:  BinaryMan [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Research Upgrade (Alien Data Disks and Daily Rewards)

Agree that scaling makes sense here. The daily reward credits seem to be scaled alright so far. The RP is also scaled, just not more than 1 hour of research for many people. I think a deliberate 4 hours of production on something (or artifact like smuggler's cache that does the same, only smaller), one of the three resource types, is a good scaled bonus too. The disks, we dont need more drop types for them, we just need it to be like an hour of research.

Author:  Joppsta [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Research Upgrade (Alien Data Disks and Daily Rewards)

I think the issue here is balance more than anything.. although yes, i hate getting 50 reseach for disabling a siege cannon also...

Author:  BinaryMan [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Research Upgrade (Alien Data Disks and Daily Rewards)

Yeah... it needs to drop a weapon or *something*

Author:  Vekno [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Research Upgrade (Alien Data Disks and Daily Rewards)

well, seige cannons are the RSL equivanent to drannik ballistae. i think it should drop a mega gun.

Author:  BinaryMan [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Research Upgrade (Alien Data Disks and Daily Rewards)

Yes, exactly my thoughts, some weapon of its own type.

Author:  RogueReign [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Research Upgrade (Alien Data Disks and Daily Rewards)

ODragon wrote:
Once you hit around level 100, these two things are not really worth it. 700 RP is less than 1/8th of what I make in an hour. The daily bonus I got today was barely over half-an-hour worth of research.

I would like to see the daily bonus be an actual bonus, maybe 4x hourly or something that will mean something. When I get credits, they are usually worth at least 2-3 hours worth of mineral production.

I would also like to see the following:
Small Alien Data Disk (700 RP) = 700 AP
Medium Alien Data Disk (2000 RP) = 2000 AP
Large Alien Data Disk (7000 RP) = 7000 AP
Mega Alien Data Disk (12000 RP) = 12000 AP


I like it. But, i think 4 different types is too much, maybe have 2 or 3 types, and the RP bonus to AP cost is not what I would accept, I think something more like 1.5x or 2x more AP for the amount of RP is better. 1 to 1 is just too cheap.

Author:  zophah [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Research Upgrade (Alien Data Disks and Daily Rewards)

RogueReign wrote:
ODragon wrote:
Once you hit around level 100, these two things are not really worth it. 700 RP is less than 1/8th of what I make in an hour. The daily bonus I got today was barely over half-an-hour worth of research.

I would like to see the daily bonus be an actual bonus, maybe 4x hourly or something that will mean something. When I get credits, they are usually worth at least 2-3 hours worth of mineral production.

I would also like to see the following:
Small Alien Data Disk (700 RP) = 700 AP
Medium Alien Data Disk (2000 RP) = 2000 AP
Large Alien Data Disk (7000 RP) = 7000 AP
Mega Alien Data Disk (12000 RP) = 12000 AP


I like it. But, i think 4 different types is too much, maybe have 2 or 3 types, and the RP bonus to AP cost is not what I would accept, I think something more like 1.5x or 2x more AP for the amount of RP is better. 1 to 1 is just too cheap.

How about this?

Author:  ODragon [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Research Upgrade (Alien Data Disks and Daily Rewards)

RogueReign wrote:
1 to 1 is just too cheap.

Well, it's 1 to 1 now and I'm guessing Dan did that for a reason. I respected that when I made my numbers. If he'd like to up the ratio, I am fine with it.

Author:  RogueReign [ Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Research Upgrade (Alien Data Disks and Daily Rewards)

zophah wrote:
RogueReign wrote:
ODragon wrote:
Once you hit around level 100, these two things are not really worth it. 700 RP is less than 1/8th of what I make in an hour. The daily bonus I got today was barely over half-an-hour worth of research.

I would like to see the daily bonus be an actual bonus, maybe 4x hourly or something that will mean something. When I get credits, they are usually worth at least 2-3 hours worth of mineral production.

I would also like to see the following:
Small Alien Data Disk (700 RP) = 700 AP
Medium Alien Data Disk (2000 RP) = 2000 AP
Large Alien Data Disk (7000 RP) = 7000 AP
Mega Alien Data Disk (12000 RP) = 12000 AP


I like it. But, i think 4 different types is too much, maybe have 2 or 3 types, and the RP bonus to AP cost is not what I would accept, I think something more like 1.5x or 2x more AP for the amount of RP is better. 1 to 1 is just too cheap.

How about this?


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zophah wrote:
WMatt007 wrote:
I think Dan should create a higher-level artifact to the Alien Data Disc, such as an Alien Databank, that would eith provide scaled RPs or a fixed, higher amount of RPs, like 3500 RP or so.

Good idea, and I'd say keep it a fixed amount, but with a ratio and more rare. And add a third tier version too. For example,

The Advanced Alien Databank costs 3,000 AP and gives 3,500 RP.
The Lost Alien Archives costs 7,000 AP and gives 9,000 RP.


i was thinking the other way, making it more expensive.
but scaled sounds good, like - in lower ranks a smaller amount of RP is more expensive in AP, and in higher ranks the opposite, or make it more expensive overall on a sliding scale for size of alien data and/or Rank level.

Author:  Matress_of_evil [ Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Research Upgrade (Alien Data Disks and Daily Rewards)

I'd definitely like to see some scaling. I almost groan whenever I see Alien Data Disks now. The reward isn't worth it at my level. I'd prefer to see scaling to having different-sized data disks.

As for the RSL Siege Cannon, since it's supposed to be a planetary assault weapons, what if it dropped a weapon module that gave 0 attack, but lots of invasion attack? We don't have any pure invasion weapons yet to my knowledge.

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