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| Author: | dristate [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
I am a daily player and leader of a legion. I have recently lost a good player do to some low jerk move by a person leaving their legion to go get help from a different one. I have no problem dealing with a battle in legions its part of the game but if you have to call on someone else to fight for you cuz you can't handle it that's messed up. We where the defending legion and when a guy 40 levels lower then their gunner was taken them out they went and got a different legion to join and smash him by hacking to take his planets. I would think that move low and cheep what I would like to suggest is if you leave a legion you have a 48 hour wait to join a different one and unless you are still being attacked you lose any battle tabs you may have so you cant legion a person to your new legion. Thank you |
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| Author: | Nocifer Deathblade [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
I agree. There should be cooldown timer between legion jumping.. It also will cripple the ability of multi-legion organization that Dan didn't want as well.. |
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| Author: | FerrusManus [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
I agree as well. |
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| Author: | DMDMDM [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
I have to disagree. Rather have a lock down on sharing and/or other actions (hacking, raiding, w/e). I'd hate to be locked out of legion bonuses for 48 hours . |
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| Author: | FerrusManus [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
DMDMDM wrote: I have to disagree. Rather have a lock down on sharing and/or other actions (hacking, raiding, w/e). I'd hate to be locked out of legion bonuses for 48 hours . You make a good point. Perhaps just don't give them access to the shares/sharing for 24 hours. |
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| Author: | dristate [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
I think being locked out of a legion for 48 hours would make some think about do they really want to leave a legion. I have seen and heard of people jumping from legion to legion when they piss off enough people so they can try to hide behind bigger guns. if you can't back your own fighting and you need to go from legion to legion then what kinda player are you???? as for a bonus a 48 hour time laps should not make that big a deal unless you are a player that is jumping from legion to legion to A. escape or recruit from a different legion or B. hmm trying to think of a B. but can't |
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| Author: | Obscura [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
It has been mentioned that instead of having the current 12 hour alert lock to have a 24 hour lockout. You can only alert those that have hacked / raided / disabled / or invaded a planet in a 24 hour shot. With that said -1 to this idea. Some people do change legions because they are in a crappy one. Let not punish the individual like that, when all Dan has to do is adjust the current timer. |
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| Author: | DMDMDM [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
People do change legion for various good reasons. Ranging from buying planets, better communicate between allied legions and getting gear otherwise harder to get. Being locked outside the legion bonuses for 48 hours it's a really REALLY BIG deal when it's 100%. So a big no-no from my part to being locked outside legion for 48 hours. I don't have any issues with locking shares/sharing/whatever abilities for 24/48 hours. |
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| Author: | FerrusManus [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
dristate wrote: I think being locked out of a legion for 48 hours would make some think about do they really want to leave a legion. I have seen and heard of people jumping from legion to legion when they piss off enough people so they can try to hide behind bigger guns. if you can't back your own fighting and you need to go from legion to legion then what kinda player are you???? as for a bonus a 48 hour time laps should not make that big a deal unless you are a player that is jumping from legion to legion to A. escape or recruit from a different legion or B. hmm trying to think of a B. but can't Yes, keeping them from being able to share anybody for a day could take care of that, but then they don't have to just sit for so long. |
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| Author: | Nocifer Deathblade [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
DMDMDM wrote: I have to disagree. Rather have a lock down on sharing and/or other actions (hacking, raiding, w/e). I'd hate to be locked out of legion bonuses for 48 hours . Easy fix.. Leave legion should retain legion bonus memorized from previous legion for entire cooldown time frame then lose it but that player can join other legion right away if they choose to.. |
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| Author: | dristate [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
OK i concede to a lock of sharing for 48 hours i am really pi$$ed off my guy was a level 87 dropped to a reboot so level 1 and has not gotten on for 5 days counting so this has me a little mad. he was a daily player and this was messed up. so i can see the need to get the legion bonus but the sharing hacking ect.. needs to be looked at and maybe given a time limit i think 48 hours is good mostly because that's about the timer for staying on a legion wall anyways. I hate to lose a player i hate even more to lose an app player its one thing to leave a legion its another to leave a game |
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| Author: | John Falls [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
I do not support this idea, How about you get kicked from a legion, it's still classed of leaving. Also the facted is, if theres a cool down. People will purposely kick other players, or make them leave so they have no legion bonus. To make for a easier invasion, this would make the game unfair. Also what if your settling a war, and apart of the pact for peace is that one of your planets are replaced. How would you get it as you would be unprotected for 48 hours. Or how about you have switch to another legion to help a friend? And regarding "unless your getting attacked", then you can join a legion. this firstly would be abused. And secondly, if you under attack. You DON'T have time to search for a suitable legion to join. You would be to busy trying to not die! it might be alright for people like PSI core and high rank players. But something like this must be fair across the board, what this idea is not. ~JF~ |
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| Author: | FerrusManus [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
John Falls wrote: And regarding "unless your getting attacked", then you can join a legion. this firstly would be abused. And secondly, if you under attack. You DON'T have time to search for a suitable legion to join. You would be to busy trying to not die! it might be alright for people like PSI core and high rank players. This already happens, so your supposition that it wouldn't happen is incorrect. |
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| Author: | John Falls [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
what do you mean, i didn't say it wouldn't happen? not on the section you quoted |
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| Author: | FerrusManus [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
John Falls wrote: And secondly, if you under attack. You DON'T have time to search for a suitable legion to join. You would be to busy trying to not die! it might be alright for people like PSI core and high rank players. Right here you say people wouldn't join other Legions if they're under attack, but that was just supposition. People do leave their Legion if they're getting hit hard, you are incorrect. |
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| Author: | Armaggedon [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
i know this has already been stated but i was not able to read it in a simplyfied version........how bout once you leave there is the normal 12 hour wait......ON TOP OF THAT it wipes all history of anyone doing anything to you just wipes the history clean so you CAN'T share them because you dont have them anymore.....and if they are just holding the window open well thats an easy fix as there is already somn in the game like this for npc adding the following feature would not be hard...........just have it to where say you jump legion......you have a tab on another browser open on the guy so you can share him with the new legion AFTER your ships been wiped clean of attack data.........you get to the new legion....you go to the open tab and press share and it says..."this player is no longer in range of your scanners"....after that if they attack you again then they show up.....but +1 to this idea...needs minor adjustments (not specificly what i have preposed but something needs to be tweeked) |
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| Author: | Darth Flagitious [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
Armaggedon wrote: i know this has already been stated but i was not able to read it in a simplyfied version........how bout once you leave there is the normal 12 hour wait......ON TOP OF THAT it wipes all history of anyone doing anything to you just wipes the history clean so you CAN'T share them because you dont have them anymore.....and if they are just holding the window open well thats an easy fix as there is already somn in the game like this for npc adding the following feature would not be hard...........just have it to where say you jump legion......you have a tab on another browser open on the guy so you can share him with the new legion AFTER your ships been wiped clean of attack data.........you get to the new legion....you go to the open tab and press share and it says..."this player is no longer in range of your scanners"....after that if they attack you again then they show up.....but +1 to this idea...needs minor adjustments (not specificly what i have preposed but something needs to be tweeked) Something needs done I agree, but not this. Suppose you are getting abused by someone, get kicked for some reason (counts the same as leaving) and now suddenly you are completely unable to do anything whatsoever to the person that has been attacking you... |
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| Author: | FerrusManus [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
Darth Flagitious wrote: Armaggedon wrote: i know this has already been stated but i was not able to read it in a simplyfied version........how bout once you leave there is the normal 12 hour wait......ON TOP OF THAT it wipes all history of anyone doing anything to you just wipes the history clean so you CAN'T share them because you dont have them anymore.....and if they are just holding the window open well thats an easy fix as there is already somn in the game like this for npc adding the following feature would not be hard...........just have it to where say you jump legion......you have a tab on another browser open on the guy so you can share him with the new legion AFTER your ships been wiped clean of attack data.........you get to the new legion....you go to the open tab and press share and it says..."this player is no longer in range of your scanners"....after that if they attack you again then they show up.....but +1 to this idea...needs minor adjustments (not specificly what i have preposed but something needs to be tweeked) Something needs done I agree, but not this. Suppose you are getting abused by someone, get kicked for some reason (counts the same as leaving) and now suddenly you are completely unable to do anything whatsoever to the person that has been attacking you... I agree. |
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| Author: | dristate [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
Alright everyone so far brings up good points so instead of fighting back and forth lets look at it this way. My problem and complaint was I lost a player for a cheep move that targeted him and took his planets. this not only lost me a player but the app a player as well. Many people who are playing the game have friends or past legions they would like to jump into to get help, or would like to help for what ever reason. Many have said that it's unfair to not be able to rejoin a new legion asap and that being kicked out of a legion would be like leaving it. So what if when you leave by choice or other you lose the ability to share anything for 24 hours just like if you had shared an artifact. However no item will remove this timer so you don't lose legion bonus. Yes many of you are going to come back with "What if i am being attacked and i can't share." If you have been attacked after rejoining a new legion then a new share for that can come into effect. but still the 24 hour share restriction stays in effect for all else. it would be like a time laps for a 24 hour time frame. The only problem with this that many will point out is they joined to get a planet or share one or give or get an artifact. this would not stop you from getting things from the new legion this only means that you can not share, not the new legion if the planet or item is a payment from you then they can join your legion to receive it not the other way around. |
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| Author: | John Falls [ Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: time limet to join a new legion after leaving one |
FerrusManus wrote: John Falls wrote: And secondly, if you under attack. You DON'T have time to search for a suitable legion to join. You would be to busy trying to not die! it might be alright for people like PSI core and high rank players. Right here you say people wouldn't join other Legions if they're under attack, but that was just supposition. People do leave their Legion if they're getting hit hard, you are incorrect. You miss understand, if you "leave the legion" not underattack, and then you get attacked you dont have time to find a legion! If you "heavily under attack" you wouldn't leave the legion full stop. ~JF~ |
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