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ODragon wrote:

Reality Upgrader
Upgrade small moon to large moons OR Upgrades Ancient Ruins to Rings

Cost: 32 GP

Dan, I want to give you more GP but I want to get good value for them. This would do that. I imagine I can't be the only person disappointed by how the Transfuser worked out on my invincible planets. This would allow me to reduce my disappointment while at the same time, lining your pockets.

Sereomontis wrote:

Though I'd rather have it do something different, rather than just upgrade those two.. Maybe something that offers an upgrade to the reality transfuser, regardless of what you got on the planet.

I.E. something that upgrades Small and Large Moons, Stealth Screen, Rings or Ruins.

ODragon wrote:

Pitch Ninja wrote:

+1 I'd definitely use it. I got a small moon on my rift that I'd love to upgrade.

I was even thinking it'd be kinda cool now that we are seeing a few more artifacts from missions that give permanent effects on planets,(ie. trade outpost intelligence ading +4%) to have something that gives 1-3 permanent extra spaces on a planet. I don't know what anyone else thinks.

Pongoloid wrote:

As much as everybody seems to hate small moons... -1

Gotta have a booby prize. If you hate small moons, either don't buy Reality Transfusers or trade for planets that are already transfused with an effect you approve of.

FlarePhoenix12 wrote:

+1 Love this idea. Small moons -> large moons, advanced civilisation ruins -> planetary rings. Seems a little OP, but everybody gets to benefit from this, so I guess it doesn't really matter.

Pongoloid wrote:

Getting rid of two of the four Analysis results would even further stifle variety.

Pongoloid wrote:

Devastation wrote:

Pongoloid wrote:

I agree with this post. Small Moons are still better than nothing, no matter how useless. This idea would simply give even more power to those who pay.

Author:	ODragon [ Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:	Reality Upgrader
Reality Upgrader Upgrade small moon to large moons OR Upgrades Ancient Ruins to Rings Cost: 32 GP Dan, I want to give you more GP but I want to get good value for them. This would do that. I imagine I can't be the only person disappointed by how the Transfuser worked out on my invincible planets. This would allow me to reduce my disappointment while at the same time, lining your pockets.

Author:	Sereomontis [ Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:08 pm ]
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ODragon wrote: Reality Upgrader Upgrade small moon to large moons OR Upgrades Ancient Ruins to Rings Cost: 32 GP Dan, I want to give you more GP but I want to get good value for them. This would do that. I imagine I can't be the only person disappointed by how the Transfuser worked out on my invincible planets. This would allow me to reduce my disappointment while at the same time, lining your pockets. I like it. Though I'd rather have it do something different, rather than just upgrade those two.. Maybe something that offers an upgrade to the reality transfuser, regardless of what you got on the planet. I.E. something that upgrades Small and Large Moons, Stealth Screen, Rings or Ruins.

Author:	ODragon [ Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:26 pm ]
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Sereomontis wrote: Though I'd rather have it do something different, rather than just upgrade those two.. Maybe something that offers an upgrade to the reality transfuser, regardless of what you got on the planet. I.E. something that upgrades Small and Large Moons, Stealth Screen, Rings or Ruins. I'm not against seeing it expanded, I just know people who get small moons or ruins, especially on their mission planets can feel disappointed. This is a way to fix that and make a little coin.

Author:	Pitch Ninja [ Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:07 pm ]
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ODragon wrote: Reality Upgrader Upgrade small moon to large moons OR Upgrades Ancient Ruins to Rings Cost: 32 GP Dan, I want to give you more GP but I want to get good value for them. This would do that. I imagine I can't be the only person disappointed by how the Transfuser worked out on my invincible planets. This would allow me to reduce my disappointment while at the same time, lining your pockets. +1 I'd definitely use it. I got a small moon on my rift that I'd love to upgrade. I was even thinking it'd be kinda cool now that we are seeing a few more artifacts from missions that give permanent effects on planets,(ie. trade outpost intelligence ading +4%) to have something that gives 1-3 permanent extra spaces on a planet. I don't know what anyone else thinks.

Author:	Agape [ Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:50 pm ]
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Gotta love having small moons on all three of your rifts. Add this and I will stuff your pockets!!

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Author:	Sereomontis [ Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:00 am ]
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Pitch Ninja wrote: +1 I'd definitely use it. I got a small moon on my rift that I'd love to upgrade. I was even thinking it'd be kinda cool now that we are seeing a few more artifacts from missions that give permanent effects on planets,(ie. trade outpost intelligence ading +4%) to have something that gives 1-3 permanent extra spaces on a planet. I don't know what anyone else thinks. This would be cool.

Author:	draxsiss [ Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:29 pm ]
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From a flavor perspective can we swap the outcomes? I mean Blow up the small moon for rings, find that the runes are really a spaceship (think atlantice?) becomes a large moon? Maybe I'm off base here but I think flavor wise its kinda cooler.

Author:	Pongoloid [ Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:55 pm ]
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As much as everybody seems to hate small moons... -1 Gotta have a booby prize. If you hate small moons, either don't buy Reality Transfusers or trade for planets that are already transfused with an effect you approve of.

Author:	Levrosh [ Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:13 pm ]
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+1e10!!!!

Author:	blackfox [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:25 pm ]
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Pongoloid wrote: As much as everybody seems to hate small moons... -1 Gotta have a booby prize. If you hate small moons, either don't buy Reality Transfusers or trade for planets that are already transfused with an effect you approve of. The booby prize should still have a way out. even if it does cost money.

Author:	draxsiss [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:30 pm ]
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a booby prize only works if your allowed to keep gambling, if I could keep using transfuses to get all 4 effects then sure small moons whatever its all good but when your limit too one.... not really cool.

Author:	Pongoloid [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:49 pm ]
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Look, I get hating small moons, I totally do. But I have to admit that I like both the variety and the dynamic of expectation/joy/sadness that comes with rolling the dice and getting the low number. So it's not like I can't feel the pain of the OP. I just prefer the aesthetic as is, even though it can be maddening at times. Plus, despite being the "least" of the analysis results, Polaron Emitters and Orbital Stabilizers certainly make up for it a bit... and if Small Moon result were gotten rid of, people would probably just start hating on Ruins.

Author:	draxsiss [ Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:49 am ]
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I understand your concern So maybe I can offer this instead "greater transfuser" 75 GP Induces a permant planetary effect of your choice on target planet. Their gamblers can gamble, and people who want good stuff pay alittle extra and get it, Everyone happy!

Author:	Deigobene [ Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:25 am ]
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I'm of the belief that the Small Moons is just a less ideal outcome. Certainly with the Polaron they really aren't the worst thing that could happen to your day. I'd really prefer it didn't change at all but if it did, I think a re-reality transfuser should cost twice the amount - once to remove, once to add again - and should also have the risk that you could end up with a small moon again. I can hear the howls already

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Author:	FlarePhoenix12 [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:37 pm ]
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+1 Love this idea. Small moons -> large moons, advanced civilisation ruins -> planetary rings. Seems a little OP, but everybody gets to benefit from this, so I guess it doesn't really matter.

Author:	Pongoloid [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:02 pm ]
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FlarePhoenix12 wrote: +1 Love this idea. Small moons -> large moons, advanced civilisation ruins -> planetary rings. Seems a little OP, but everybody gets to benefit from this, so I guess it doesn't really matter. Eh, then there'd be no new planets with anything but rings/moons. Seems boring to me. Ship building is already kind of lacking in the variation department, especially with newer players -- the only questions being "Need more artifact production? Yes please!" and "Er... do I go SSB or MSB?" And with planets, you can make most types at least Colossal and 20x Arti, so the strategy is picking whichever type is fastest and easiest to get there. Getting rid of two of the four Analysis results would even further stifle variety.

Author:	ODragon [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:23 pm ]
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Pongoloid wrote: Getting rid of two of the four Analysis results would even further stifle variety. You are not getting rid of, you are giving the ability to upgrade them. I have a ton of planets with ACR or small moons I won't upgrade, there are some though, I will happily pay to upgrade.

Author:	Devastation [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:55 pm ]
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Pongoloid wrote: As much as everybody seems to hate small moons... -1 Gotta have a booby prize. If you hate small moons, either don't buy Reality Transfusers or trade for planets that are already transfused with an effect you approve of. I agree with this post. Small Moons are still better than nothing, no matter how useless. This idea would simply give even more power to those who pay.

Author:	Sereomontis [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:01 pm ]
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Devastation wrote: Pongoloid wrote: As much as everybody seems to hate small moons... -1 Gotta have a booby prize. If you hate small moons, either don't buy Reality Transfusers or trade for planets that are already transfused with an effect you approve of. I agree with this post. Small Moons are still better than nothing, no matter how useless. This idea would simply give even more power to those who pay. People who pay should have advantages over the ones who don't, otherwise, there is no reason to pay.

Author:	DarthRavadge [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:27 pm ]
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I like my solution better. Buy planets that already have effects with ctp. Never waste GP on Reality transfusers again and certainly don't pay more when you got boned already. If there is gonna be an upgrade it should be a repeatable mission reward.