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Resuggestion - offensive artifact usage should raise action
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Author:  ICBLF [ Wed May 07, 2014 4:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Resuggestion - offensive artifact usage should raise action

Title says it all. If something lowers your TM limit it should raise your action count too.

Author:  Noirpa [ Wed May 07, 2014 6:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Resuggestion - offensive artifact usage should raise action

yes yes a million times yes!

I hate getting spammed for the sake of spamming because little to nothing can be done to them.

Author:  SpaceCaseAce [ Thu May 08, 2014 7:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Resuggestion - offensive artifact usage should raise action

I will +1 this anytime it's suggested.

+1

Author:  Pennsyltucky [ Thu May 08, 2014 8:27 pm ]
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As usual +1

Author:  Hallucinations [ Fri May 09, 2014 12:52 am ]
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-1, because this has never been an issue for me on this game.

Spamming artifacts is about the only thing some players can do in retaliation especially low ranks vs high ranks. If they are taking the time to ruin your game time well you must have done something to ruin theirs.

If you don't want to be spammed with artifacts from said person; drop off their news feed and don't get yourself back on said person's news feed.

Author:  KxG Ryoko [ Fri May 09, 2014 2:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Resuggestion - offensive artifact usage should raise action

-1

a high rank steals your planet, you arti-spam him down to size so you can "retaliate"(something that alot of players complained about when it wasn't happening), and because your actions are now in atleast the 20s, they zero you out "for daring to use artifacts".

just a suggestion to help stat-padding~

Author:  Arbiter [ Fri May 09, 2014 2:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Resuggestion - offensive artifact usage should raise action

KxG Ryoko wrote:
-1

a high rank steals your planet, you arti-spam him down to size so you can "retaliate"(something that alot of players complained about when it wasn't happening), and because your actions are now in atleast the 20s, they zero you out "for daring to use artifacts".

just a suggestion to help stat-padding~


Of course you'd want to do whatever you want to people but be able to hide from them.

+1 to op, -1 to spamming and hiding like Ryoko.

Author:  KxG Ryoko [ Fri May 09, 2014 2:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Resuggestion - offensive artifact usage should raise action

Arbiter wrote:
KxG Ryoko wrote:
-1

a high rank steals your planet, you arti-spam him down to size so you can "retaliate"(something that alot of players complained about when it wasn't happening), and because your actions are now in atleast the 20s, they zero you out "for daring to use artifacts".

just a suggestion to help stat-padding~


Of course you'd want to do whatever you want to people but be able to hide from them.

+1 to op, -1 to spamming and hiding like Ryoko.


I sense that someone is bitter?

Here's the thing sweetie, I don't use artifacts to disable people. I occasionally use a flare or two to get a hack, but that's generally it~
I just don't tend to pvp because it's boring and has no real reward to it~ I can wipe out several hundred npcs and get some cool stuff, or waste my energy provoking a few dozen people to take potshots at my ship.

Now, I'm sure you're feeling neglected by me, but I'd like it very much if you'd stop acting like a crazy stalker~ You're starting to get just a little pathetic.

Author:  Arbiter [ Fri May 09, 2014 2:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Resuggestion - offensive artifact usage should raise action

KxG Ryoko wrote:
I sense that someone is bitter?

Here's the thing sweetie, I don't use artifacts to disable people. I occasionally use a flare or two to get a hack, but that's generally it~
I just don't tend to pvp because it's boring and has no real reward to it~ I can wipe out several hundred npcs and get some cool stuff, or waste my energy provoking a few dozen people to take potshots at my ship.

Now, I'm sure you're feeling neglected by me, but I'd like it very much if you'd stop acting like a crazy stalker~ You're starting to get just a little pathetic.


You're the one who supports spamming people and being able to hide from them. Didn't you only just get a QSE, anyway? Doesn't sound like you spend your time hunting those, but good try at a cover story.


Anyway, not trying to go off-topic like Ryoko, just wanted to say this is a good suggestion to deal with hiders like Ryoko.

Author:  Hallucinations [ Fri May 09, 2014 3:05 am ]
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Arbiter wrote:

You're the one who supports spamming people and being able to hide from them. Didn't you only just get a QSE, anyway? Doesn't sound like you spend your time hunting those, but good try at a cover story.


Anyway, not trying to go off-topic like Ryoko, just wanted to say this is a good suggestion to deal with hiders like Ryoko.


Huh? I've never come across someone spamming me with artifacts and hiding behind zero actions because I did NOTHING...

Still a big -1 from me.

Author:  Pongoloid [ Fri May 09, 2014 4:21 am ]
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If somebody has 0 disables and they use an offensive arti against another player, their actions should be raised. Maybe up to a 3/5/5 maximum in the case of multiple artifacts being used.

But I am not a fan of a CM, torpedo, EMP, or whatever raising people's action counts if their actions are already at or above 3/5/5. Some people simply have crummy ships and artis are the only way they can have any hope in PVP. Reduced TM usage and being smashed the second they go offline once the halc is gone is punishment enough.

Author:  Ludis [ Fri May 09, 2014 4:51 am ]
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+1
I think the system is already in action. Just the other day, I artibombed someone after they artibombed me from Ancient Untouchables and I ended up staying the same actions, but could not use another time manipulator. The other person that artibombed me could not continue their hacking spree too. I believe the actions should go up instead of being invisible to prevent time manipulators.

Author:  Toruk_Makto [ Fri May 09, 2014 1:43 pm ]
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-1

Author:  SpaceCaseAce [ Fri May 09, 2014 5:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Resuggestion - offensive artifact usage should raise action

Hallucinations wrote:
Arbiter wrote:

You're the one who supports spamming people and being able to hide from them. Didn't you only just get a QSE, anyway? Doesn't sound like you spend your time hunting those, but good try at a cover story.


Anyway, not trying to go off-topic like Ryoko, just wanted to say this is a good suggestion to deal with hiders like Ryoko.


Huh? I've never come across someone spamming me with artifacts and hiding behind zero actions because I did NOTHING...

Still a big -1 from me.


pfff, you just havent come across the right people I guess.
Believe it or not you dont always have to "do something" to people to have them arti spam you.
hell ive been spammed over a damn badge hit. I badge them, they spam me. I kill them, they spam me more, i kill them again til zeroed and guess what, now they have free reign to spam me all they want.

Again
+1 to the OP

Author:  SpaceCaseAce [ Fri May 09, 2014 6:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Resuggestion - offensive artifact usage should raise action

KxG Ryoko wrote:
-1

a high rank steals your planet, you arti-spam him down to size so you can "retaliate"(something that alot of players complained about when it wasn't happening), and because your actions are now in atleast the 20s, they zero you out "for daring to use artifacts".

just a suggestion to help stat-padding~


Id like to point out that I dont want an action gained for every offensive arti used.If someone hits you with 10 emp, i dont think they should gain 10 actions.
I am talking about those who arti spam with zero actions. If you are at 0 actions and you use an offensive arti on someone, you should gain 1 action, preferably 1 disable action. This way you cannot spam artis in complete safety. once I take your 1 action, you can spam me again but you will also gain 1 more action for me to take. So no, not an added action for each arti use, only 1 action gained and only when at zero actions.

Something along those lines anyway. We are just trying to eliminate being arti spammed by someone you cant touch cause they have zero actions..Id even be happy with not being able to use offensive, pvp artis at all when at zero actions.

Author:  Ludis [ Fri May 09, 2014 7:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Resuggestion - offensive artifact usage should raise action

SpaceCaseAce wrote:
KxG Ryoko wrote:
-1

a high rank steals your planet, you arti-spam him down to size so you can "retaliate"(something that alot of players complained about when it wasn't happening), and because your actions are now in atleast the 20s, they zero you out "for daring to use artifacts".

just a suggestion to help stat-padding~


Id like to point out that I dont want an action gained for every offensive arti used.If someone hits you with 10 emp, i dont think they should gain 10 actions.
I am talking about those who arti spam with zero actions. If you are at 0 actions and you use an offensive arti on someone, you should gain 1 action, preferably 1 disable action. This way you cannot spam artis in complete safety. once I take your 1 action, you can spam me again but you will also gain 1 more action for me to take. So no, not an added action for each arti use, only 1 action gained and only when at zero actions.

Something along those lines anyway. We are just trying to eliminate being arti spammed by someone you cant touch cause they have zero actions..Id even be happy with not being able to use offensive, pvp artis at all when at zero actions.


I give you +1 for these explanations to those obvious artifact bombers. They really deserve to be punted by us for using artifacts to prevent harassment. I'm with you on this one.

Author:  KxG Ryoko [ Fri May 09, 2014 8:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Resuggestion - offensive artifact usage should raise action

SpaceCaseAce wrote:
Id like to point out that I dont want an action gained for every offensive arti used.If someone hits you with 10 emp, i dont think they should gain 10 actions.
I am talking about those who arti spam with zero actions. If you are at 0 actions and you use an offensive arti on someone, you should gain 1 action, preferably 1 disable action. This way you cannot spam artis in complete safety. once I take your 1 action, you can spam me again but you will also gain 1 more action for me to take. So no, not an added action for each arti use, only 1 action gained and only when at zero actions.

Something along those lines anyway. We are just trying to eliminate being arti spammed by someone you cant touch cause they have zero actions..Id even be happy with not being able to use offensive, pvp artis at all when at zero actions.


+1 as long as it just adds 1 action count (even across the board) when someone is zeroed~

if it adds 1 count for every artifact used, then still -1.

Author:  Hallucinations [ Sat May 10, 2014 5:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Resuggestion - offensive artifact usage should raise action

SpaceCaseAce wrote:

pfff, you just havent come across the right people I guess.
Believe it or not you dont always have to "do something" to people to have them arti spam you.
hell ive been spammed over a damn badge hit. I badge them, they spam me. I kill them, they spam me more, i kill them again til zeroed and guess what, now they have free reign to spam me all they want.

Again
+1 to the OP


Its nothing new, everyone knows people can spam and hide behind zero actions. Its a tactic used by many. But there has to be some kind of motive for someone to stoop that low. I have had people do it to me, I just wait 48 hours and they loose the lock to my ship. Its really not a big deal its just someone understanding the game mechanics and using them to their advantage. Similar to SSB ships.

Author:  Secret [ Sat May 10, 2014 6:26 am ]
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Hallucinations wrote:
Arbiter wrote:

You're the one who supports spamming people and being able to hide from them. Didn't you only just get a QSE, anyway? Doesn't sound like you spend your time hunting those, but good try at a cover story.


Anyway, not trying to go off-topic like Ryoko, just wanted to say this is a good suggestion to deal with hiders like Ryoko.


Huh? I've never come across someone spamming me with artifacts and hiding behind zero actions because I did NOTHING...

Still a big -1 from me.



I get arty spammed sometimes, and they still don't manage to disable me!

Author:  SpaceCaseAce [ Sat May 10, 2014 2:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Resuggestion - offensive artifact usage should raise action

Secret wrote:
Hallucinations wrote:
Arbiter wrote:

You're the one who supports spamming people and being able to hide from them. Didn't you only just get a QSE, anyway? Doesn't sound like you spend your time hunting those, but good try at a cover story.


Anyway, not trying to go off-topic like Ryoko, just wanted to say this is a good suggestion to deal with hiders like Ryoko.


Huh? I've never come across someone spamming me with artifacts and hiding behind zero actions because I did NOTHING...

Still a big -1 from me.



I get arty spammed sometimes, and they still don't manage to disable me!


lol cupcake, your ship is a freaking beast... I always feel like im under krionus infection attacking you lol...not sure any amount of arti spam on your ship would even matter...lol
Besides, most people who arti spam in the manner described in this thread, are not necessarily trying to disable you, only annoy you..

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