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Author:  blackfox [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:39 am ]
Post subject:  Base disable cool down.

Been a while since i have suggested anything

What i'm suggesting is that each base has a 1 day protection from enemy locks after it has been disabled.
nothing more. nothing less.

it will help us salvage what production we can from the attack.
it also help stop attacks like we have just had. one after another.

Author:  Darth Flagitious [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

You know that's a really bad idea, right? Wait, forget I asked that. It was posted so I guess not.

Author:  Jessica [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

+1

Author:  umbongo [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

-1

If your base is locked with great regularity, there is probably a reason for that.

You can solve your getting locked problem by getting more fixers & putting more clamps on

Author:  blackfox [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

umbongo wrote:
-1

If your base is locked with great regularity, there is probably a reason for that.

You can solve your getting locked problem by getting more fixers & putting more clamps on


True. though one lock after another tends to get on your nerves. but i understand you point.

Author:  Darth Flagitious [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

blackfox wrote:
umbongo wrote:
-1

If your base is locked with great regularity, there is probably a reason for that.

You can solve your getting locked problem by getting more fixers & putting more clamps on


True. though one lock after another tends to get on your nerves. but i understand you point.


Actually, the "your base is crap" reasoning isn't why this idea is so bad for the game. Think about it... The production bonus you lose (BTW, it's not a right, it's a bonus) when your base is disabled is the Base Defender Bonus. If you get disabled, that bonus starts to regenerate on your second payout after the disable. Since it's a "defender" bonus and you wouldn't be defending on the first day with this 24hr lock cooldown, logically, you shouldn't begin to regenerate until the 3rd payout. This would have limited effect on the "pinatas" of the galaxy that get multi-locked in one day and the once-a-day bases, but those that only get locked rarely (once a week or less) would be getting punished by this protection. They would have to wait an extra day to get their production bonus back. Basically, if you build your base so well that you hardly ever get disabled, you're punished.

Getting disabled the second time in one day has absolutely no adverse effects on your base or production.

Author:  ShadowsPoison [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

+1 Give the smaller legion a chance for once in GL. The elitist basing groups can afford the change
Darth Flagitious wrote:
You know that's a really bad idea, right? Wait, forget I asked that. It was posted so I guess not.

Please elaborate. It is not clear to me.

Author:  Darth Flagitious [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

ShadowsPoison wrote:
+1 Give the smaller legion a chance for once in GL. The elitist basing groups can afford the change
Darth Flagitious wrote:
You know that's a really bad idea, right? Wait, forget I asked that. It was posted so I guess not.

Please elaborate. It is not clear to me.


I did. 4 minutes prior to your post. ;)

Author:  blackfox [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

FYI darth. i ignore all your posts.

Author:  Deigobene [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:17 am ]
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blackfox wrote:
FYI darth. i ignore all your posts.

That's a shame Blackfox, because Darth Flag clearly outlined why your idea will actually hinder not help your base production levels :(

Author:  Darth Flagitious [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

blackfox wrote:
FYI darth. i ignore all your posts.


Bad policy blacksox. I may be a sarcastic troll, but at least I know what I'm talking about. You might just learn something.

Author:  ShadowsPoison [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

Darth Flagitious wrote:
ShadowsPoison wrote:
+1 Give the smaller legion a chance for once in GL. The elitist basing groups can afford the change
Darth Flagitious wrote:
You know that's a really bad idea, right? Wait, forget I asked that. It was posted so I guess not.

Please elaborate. It is not clear to me.


I did. 4 minutes prior to your post. ;)

Ahh I typed that and then submitted later. However, I don't believe black fox intended for the base defender bonus to be delayed due to the 1 day protection they are suggesting. I believe a 1 day protection for disabled bases with no delay to the base defender bonus would be beneficial. If the protection added an additional day as you described than -1 and I'd imagine most people would feel that way. not that this would ever get implemented anyway

Author:  blackfox [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

Darth Flagitious wrote:
blackfox wrote:
FYI darth. i ignore all your posts.


Bad policy blacksox. I may be a sarcastic troll, but at least I know what I'm talking about. You might just learn something.


Tell my why i should listen to a guy who constantly insults people and sucks up to others? even now, "Blacksox" is that supposed to be funny? is it even necessary? if you listen to half of the criticism i tell you (and the other half of the forum) about your lack of basic manners, then i'd listen to you. why would anyone listen to someone who just takes the **** out of everyone over and over ? would you you put up with it ? and sure. i guess you do know what you're talking about. But i'm not listening to you anymore until you sort your attitude out (and yes i know i'm not perfect). if you can't treat others with basic respect. then why should I treat you any different ?

Author:  Darth Flagitious [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

ShadowsPoison wrote:
Ahh I typed that and then submitted later. However, I don't believe black fox intended for the base defender bonus to be delayed due to the 1 day protection they are suggesting. I believe a 1 day protection for disabled bases with no delay to the base defender bonus would be beneficial. If the protection added an additional day as you described than -1 and I'd imagine most people would feel that way. not that this would ever get implemented anyway


Yes, well, like I said... You wouldn't actually be defending your base while you have the suggested immunity, so why should you still get the bonus?


blackfox wrote:
Tell my why i should listen to a guy who constantly insults people and sucks up to others? even now, "Blacksox" is that supposed to be funny? is it even necessary? if you listen to half of the criticism i tell you (and the other half of the forum) about your lack of basic manners, then i'd listen to you. why would anyone listen to someone who just takes the **** out of everyone over and over ? would you you put up with it ? and sure. i guess you do know what you're talking about. But i'm not listening to you anymore until you sort your attitude out (and yes i know i'm not perfect). if you can't treat others with basic respect. then why should I treat you any different ?


If people like you would listen to me, yinz would all be considering the ramifications of what you are suggesting, and I wouldn't have to take the piss out of it. My normal short and sweet (and usually sarcastic) -1s are intended to get people thinking about why something suggested is bad. Over time, there have been several people who have "figured it out." And remember, respect is earned, not given. Someone acts like a moron or a spoiled little child, they're going to get treated like one. Sorry if I don't pander to the Junior Healy's around here.0

BTW, I'd just absolutely LOVE to see the list of people to whom I suck up. :D

Author:  blackfox [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

Darth Flagitious wrote:
If people like you would listen to me, yinz would all be considering the ramifications of what you are suggesting, and I wouldn't have to take the piss out of it. My normal short and sweet (and usually sarcastic) -1s are intended to get people thinking about why something suggested is bad. Over time, there have been several people who have "figured it out." And remember, respect is earned, not given. Someone acts like a moron or a spoiled little child, they're going to get treated like one. Sorry if I don't pander to the Junior Healy's around here.0

BTW, I'd just absolutely LOVE to see the list of people to whom I suck up. :D



Fair enough. But again, why would i want to listen to someone who i know is just going to take this piss one way or another. and stuff like that isn't going to make them think about it. but rather draw attention to why you're being suck a prick over a suggestion. and if you haven't noticed. nearly all of your comments turn into arguments because you don't know how to treat people right. And yes i know respect is earned. but i'm not going to try to earn your respect if you don't give it to start with. people never act well to disrespectful criticism . everyone else on this forum menages to say what is bad about a suggestion without being an ass about it. why can't you -_-

Author:  Tree7304 [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

Unfortunately he gets the luxury of being a prick when he is usually right.

Instead of taking frustration out towards him, try to think of a honest good solution that makes sense, is easy to implement, and doesn't make people who complain about their base being killed sound like whiny low ranks upset hey aren't getting base payouts they don't deserve.

Do that and throw it in his face for review.

Author:  blackfox [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

Tree7304 wrote:
Unfortunately he gets the luxury of being a prick when he is usually right.

Instead of taking frustration out towards him, try to think of a honest good solution that makes sense, is easy to implement, and doesn't make people who complain about their base being killed sound like whiny low ranks upset hey aren't getting base payouts they don't deserve.

Do that and throw it in his face for review.


True, I'd do that. but he'd find something bad with it. and i can take criticism. just not his. he always goes about it in a disrespect full way.

Author:  Tree7304 [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

blackfox wrote:
Tree7304 wrote:
Unfortunately he gets the luxury of being a prick when he is usually right.

Instead of taking frustration out towards him, try to think of a honest good solution that makes sense, is easy to implement, and doesn't make people who complain about their base being killed sound like whiny low ranks upset hey aren't getting base payouts they don't deserve.

Do that and throw it in his face for review.


True, I'd do that. but he'd find something bad with it. and i can take criticism. just not his. he always goes about it in a disrespect full way.

Only if it is a bad idea.
Like I said
Tree7304 wrote:
think of a honest good solution that makes sense, is easy to implement, and doesn't make people who complain about their base being killed sound like whiny low ranks upset hey aren't getting base payouts they don't deserve.

Author:  S.Hawking [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

Deep breath, everyone. Let's watch the language and name calling, please.

Thank you.

Author:  Darth Flagitious [ Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Base disable cool down.

Tree7304 wrote:
Unfortunately he gets the luxury of being a prick when he is usually right.

Instead of taking frustration out towards him, try to think of a honest good solution that makes sense, is easy to implement, and doesn't make people who complain about their base being killed sound like whiny low ranks upset hey aren't getting base payouts they don't deserve.

Do that and throw it in his face for review.


Thanks Shrub... I think... :?

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I await that good solution, patiently.

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