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Author:  Hallucinations [ Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Make contributing energy to bases easier and faster?
I've added a buttload of energy (well over 150M) and will continue to whether a change is implemented or not, but I would really like for my arms to hurt a lot less after contributing massive amounts of energy.

My idea:

I suggest that you can add all your energy up to how much exp you have left to rank.

- Yes this would stop players being able get a 1999 exp head start on the next rank.**

- Yes this would make adding energy so much faster. Would turn 1 hours worth of contributing to about 30 seconds.

Adding energy without exp buffs:

- You have 50,000 exp to rank and 60,000 energy, you can add up to 50,000 energy.
- You have 60,000 exp to rank and 40,000 energy, you can add up to 40,000 energy.

If exp buff's are used the total amount of exp you will gain from the buff's would be removed from the total energy you could add.

Adding energy with exp buffs:

With a neural interface online:
- 50,000 exp to rank and 50,000 energy, you can add 42,500 energy
Math = EXP - (EXP * 0.15)
Example = 50,000 - ( 50,000 * 0.15 ) = 42,500

With a neural interface and rsl online:
- 50,000 exp to rank and 50,000 energy, you can add 37,500 energy.
Math = EXP - ((EXP * 0.15) + (EXP * 0.1))
Example = 50,000 - ((50,000 * 0.15) + (50,000 * 0.1)) = 37,500

Other ideas that have been suggested in the past/this post:

- Max experience at 2k no matter how much above 2k you donate.*
- A single button that will allow you to donate 2k energy in one click.*
- Remove the current contribute button when a base hits level 8/9, Replace with a clickable button that donates 500 energy.*

* These are not my ideas.
** Its been suggested that rather than change the current method, there could be a 2nd method of contributing energy that could be granted access to at a certain point. Level 7+ maybe. Or maybe at Level 7 you unlock an upgradeable base mod?
- If you want credit for your idea that is listed above PM me about it.

Alternative ideas as to how the process could be sped up? Flaws with my idea?
Author:  Golgotha [ Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
Hallucinations wrote:
I suggest that you can add all your energy up to how much exp you have left to rank.

- Yes this would stop players being able get a 1999 exp head start on the next rank.

- Yes this would make adding energy so much faster.

I've added a buttload of energy (well over 150M) and will continue to whether a change is implemented or not, but I would really like for my arms to hurt a lot less after contributing massive amounts of energy.

Alternative ideas as to how the process could be sped up? Flaws with my idea?


It would have to take into account exp bonuses - otherwise bam, full level added + 25% of way to next level etc
Author:  Hallucinations [ Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
Golgotha wrote:
It would have to take into account exp bonuses - otherwise bam, full level added + 25% of way to next level etc


I guess with the exp bonuses they would have to be included as well. Never thought about that.

Updated the OP, thats how it would work with exp buff's I guess.
Author:  ODragon [ Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
Hallucinations wrote:
Alternative ideas as to how the process could be sped up?

Options brought up in other threads:

-Max experience at 2k no matter how much above 2k you donate.
-A single button that will allow you to donate 2k energy in one click.
Author:  Hallucinations [ Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
ODragon wrote:
Hallucinations wrote:
Alternative ideas as to how the process could be sped up?

Options brought up in other threads:

-Max experience at 2k no matter how much above 2k you donate.
-A single button that will allow you to donate 2k energy in one click.


I do like those ideas! But It would still be pretty painful as it would require a lot of clicks still. Sure it would cut down the amount by half and a lot less pasting.

I would give those ideas a +1 because it speeds up the current process.
Author:  detregets [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
+1 contributing should be easier. Maybe a button that donates all remaining energy at a single cclick
Author:  Deigobene [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
Perfectly happy with higher amounts of energy being able to be donated, but don't think any energy contribution should be free of XP or capped at a certain amount of XP.
Author:  Hallucinations [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
Deigobene wrote:
Perfectly happy with higher amounts of energy being able to be donated, but don't think any energy contribution should be free of XP or capped at a certain amount of XP.


The thing is there needs to be a cap to how much energy we can add if we increase the limit.

Currently the max is 2000, which if you contribute 2000 energy with 1 exp remaining you get a rank and a 1999 exp head start into your next rank. If we increase the limit at which we can donate you could gain a bigger head start. That is why there needs to be a limit which I have based of the experience left to gain as I can see no other way to stop abuse if there is an increase. Players would no longer be able to get any head start on their next rank, but it would make the process a lot faster and a lot less painful.

An example of why a cap is needed:

I have a 120,000 energy bar, and I require 120,000 exp to rank, If I contributed 119,999 energy, and then used a refill, I would be able to autorank around 3000 times as I would have such a big headstart.
Author:  Deigobene [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
Yeah mate, sorry I should have been clearer, I have no problem with limiting the amount of Energy you can donate to the amount of XP you require to get to the next level.

My only concern is with any other suggestion to allow energy donation without the 1:1 XP return.
Author:  Hallucinations [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
Deigobene wrote:
Yeah mate, sorry I should have been clearer, I have no problem with limiting the amount of Energy you can donate to the amount of XP you require to get to the next level.

My only concern is with any other suggestion to allow energy donation without the 1:1 XP return.


Still confuzzled lol. You would like to be able to add energy with no exp return? I can tell you right now that would never happen.

The exp return will always be 1:1 unless they are using exp buffs which would give a greater exp return. (to me a big waste of exp spent!)

Edit: updated OP a bit hoping to make it clearer.
Author:  Deigobene [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
Quote:
-Max experience at 2k no matter how much above 2k you donate.

lol, sorry mate, I was only ever concerned by this idea from the past.

Think your idea is very good.
Author:  Leopard [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
I like it, it's well thought out!! +1

Maybe do this for level 7+ bases only, so other players with smaller bases can still get up to 1999 exp head start on the next rank?

Frankly, I wouldn't be too happy about the "stop players being able get a 1999 exp head start on the next rank" but... at this point, with lvl 7+ bases, anything that basically ...
"allows players to donate more than 2000 energy at a time, when they have more than 2000 EXP to level"
... IS definitely a good idea! And the math looks well thought out and.. reasonably limiting. :) :) I hope it's implemented. Either that one, or any reasonable version of it, that allows more than 2000 energy donation at a time, to players who have more than 2000 EXP left to level.
Author:  Hallucinations [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
Deigobene wrote:
Quote:
-Max experience at 2k no matter how much above 2k you donate.

lol, sorry mate, I was only ever concerned by this idea from the past.

Think your idea is very good.


Ahh that makes sense now! Haha, I'm crossing everything with my own idea atm but thanks for the feedback anyway!
Yes that idea would most likely never be implemented but has been suggested before so I thought I should quote it.

Leon wrote:
I like it, it's well thought out!! +1

Maybe do this for level 7+ bases only, so other players with smaller bases can still get up to 1999 exp head start on the next rank?

Frankly, I wouldn't be too happy about the "stop players being able get a 1999 exp head start on the next rank" but... at this point, with lvl 7+ bases, anything that basically ...
"allows players to donate more than 2000 energy at a time, when they have more than 2000 EXP to level"
... IS definitely a good idea! And the math looks well thought out and.. reasonably limiting. :) :) I hope it's implemented. Either that one, or any reasonable version of it, that allows more than 2000 energy donation at a time, to players who have more than 2000 EXP left to level.


I like the idea that it comes after a certain level like level 7+, maybe your base unlocks a new (possibly upgradable?!?) base mod at level 7 that can enhance energy contributing that way the old method could still be in play and a new faster one. Thanks for the support but there could still be a couple of flaws I have not thought of. Anything would be better than 600M energy @ 2000 a piece over and over again.
Author:  Jedi Fridge [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
Big +1

Excellent idea that definitely needs to be implemented into the game, would make things soo much easier, and much more logical also!
(Not at that stage personally, but talked to matt a bit and realize how tediously time consuming it can be!) :?
Author:  Tree7304 [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
Remove the current contribute button when a base hits level 8/9
Replace with a clickable button that donates 500 energy.
Author:  Leopard [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
Whichever option is used to achieve being able to donate more than 2k at a time, I'm all for it

OR, at least just a clickable "2000 Energy" button NEXT to the Contribute Energy button ???
Author:  Hallucinations [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
Tree7304 wrote:
Remove the current contribute button when a base hits level 8/9
Replace with a clickable button that donates 500 energy.


curious as to why you would want to remove the current method and replace it with this one? Is it because it would be easier to implement or something?
Author:  kirkeastment [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
Hallucinations wrote:
Tree7304 wrote:
Remove the current contribute button when a base hits level 8/9
Replace with a clickable button that donates 500 energy.


curious as to why you would want to remove the current method and replace it with this one? Is it because it would be easier to implement or something?


Dan loves his clicking, anything that keeps you clicking longer = Dan Happy :D

So this way, we get the simplicity of a 1-click donate button, but Dan gets his clicky ways :)
Author:  Hallucinations [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Make contributing energy to bases easier?
kirkeastment wrote:

Dan loves his clicking, anything that keeps you clicking longer = Dan Happy :D

So this way, we get the simplicity of a 1-click donate button, but Dan gets his clicky ways :)


Lol yeah well that is clearly reflected by the fact that he won't allow us to use multiple artifacts at once.

I can hope, it is but a suggestion. I am all for speeding it up and what tree suggested does that so I would be all for it and give it a +1 myself. I have also added it to the OP
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