Hi, I really like your game. One thing that bothers me is high ranked bullies.
I have been attacked several times by players 100 + levels above me. There is no way I can defend myself. I dont mind when it comes from the battle tab, you get disabled and its over. But these people start and wont stop.
The main thing that this is about planets. If I happen to scan a good planet of a high ranking player and I find some that have very little defense, then I am able to take it. But if I do, they cry and bring their whole legion along.
I think that planets that are not defended are fair game but in order to protect low rank players from "bullies" you could do this.... Notify player only when planets are attacked and they put up a successful defense, but if they lose the planet and they are 50 plus levels above attacker then dont tell them who took it. Also adjust the scan so that planets owned by ACTIVE players 50 or more levels lower would not scan. It would level the playing field and keep newer players in the game longer.
The only other way to do this is to just limit the players that anyone can attack to plus or minus 50 levels. This will also level the playing field and keep new players in the game longer.
The only other possibility I can see is to require Legion membership to include a percentage of players of different levels, Like 10 percent of a range of players. This would spread out the higher level players and help protect lower level players. I have seen some Legions that only accept players above a certian level.
Well these are just my concerns. I would like to hear what you think about this

While all this may sound like a good idea to you none of them do to me. First off Good planets are hard to come by. And I'm sorry if you take one from me I will attack you and raid/hack you till you go off my news page even if you are 550 ranks lower than me. Unless I get my world back. Why? Not because I'm mean or anything but because you don't understand what the high ranks have to put into a world to make it "good". For many of us it cost more than 2.5B creds to invade. For me it would cost 5.5B creds. So There is that cost to try and take it back from you. Then the buildings that you would destroy to make room for your buildings would cost close to 2.5B creds for some of us. Then there is just the fact that some one that much smaller thought it was ok for him to take a world from someone so much higher ranking them him/her. Now moving on to the not attacking part. The only thing I have to say about that is that I don't think there is anyone at all within 50 ranks in either direction of me that I can attack. There are some but I think they are all in my legion. (If I am wrong about this sorry, I didn't feel like looking it up. lol) So to make it so we can't attack them that would take a way all PVP for a lot of us as well.

No about your legion idea. Um no, because lets take my legion for an example. Our lowest ranking member is rank 207. So to make it so we have to have some lower ranking players mixed in with us would not only slow down our progress and make us kick some players that have worked very hard to make it in with us but it would lower our stats and hurt our play style. Besides that what would they do when they start to get some of the boss NPC's? We can't see any of the ones that players under the rank of 150 (guessing but most likely close) can see. So no one would be able to help them with those and by the time they got to the rank where they are getting the NPC's we are we will no longer be getting those ones.

I hope this makes since and you get why many players won't like your idea.

He's not asking for your input on whether it is fair and he isn't asking you to sit on your hands mojo. It is an idea or suggestion. If it weren't fluxed it would still be on your list and you would probably notice it eventually if it were any good.

only take planets from people you know you can defeat. and make sure you can also disable the best person in their legion without buffs if they are an officer or part of the top 50 legions. otherwise leave it alone.

the reason some planets have no defenses is because the players know that no one who has played the game for more than a week would mess with their legion, except an equally good legion, or that the planet isnt good enough to defend. and if a lower rank took a planet from me, i definitly want to be notified if i can retake it. my top 5 planets i made from a variety of NPC drops and mission artifacts.

new planets are being added all the time. if you do manage to find a good planet, load up on cloak and defense/attack. i know it may be upsetting to see 10-12 spaces go to making sure the planet is defended instead of production, but when you have 3 or 4 thousand attack/defense on a planet and a higher levels invasion fails, you will be happy you did. my top planets all have between 5500 and 7000 attack/defense on them because i would rather sacrifice 15% of the planets production indefinitly than lose 100% of production at some point in time.

really??? most people on here think anyone who take their planet is fair game. if you don't want hell to rain down on you don't piss off the rain makers. i have a scan of a dysonians's planet do you think i will ever try to take it? heck no. it is no ones fault but your own if you pick bad targets.

sure this sounds like a great idea but as you get into the 200's, 50 levels is nothing.


how would this protect the lowers ? other legions would have similar mixes if any thing this would give higher players more targets. also if the 50 level limit was used this would be ineffective.

in conclusion stop your complaining, pick better targets and have a good day.

This is just a suggestion. It can be modified. But people should defend their planets. Might be an idea to require a minimum amount of defense on a planet.
Using them as bait to start a war and get compensation sounds like a bully to me. AND I HATE BULLIES. This was mostly thought of as a way to control the bullies but I can see where it would affect a lot of good players also, the only thing I can think of is to start a bullies list that everyone can see. Then when someone wants to join a Legion that Legion can see that that player has a bad reputation. Same can be done for Legions.
You would have to put down the players name, Legion, reason why you think they are a bad or unfair player, and additional examples if available. For me this would be my example.

Player. Zabanna
Legion. Project Anarchy
Deliberately lowers defense on a good planet as bait, Uses Legion strength to demand planet back and high compensation…..example…. Ok, my contact in PA says that they will stop the war for 1 planet flux and 1500 kurenite.
Search in the forum under the Legions tab for Zabanna for another comment. He has done this before.

They're not using them as bait and they're not being bullies. If a high ranked player in a powerful legion owns a planet that has no defence, there's a reason for that. Only idiots or someone of the same rank in an equally powerful legion would attempt to take it.

You see, planets that are owned by powerful legions have this sort of natural defence. This defence is known as "Repercussions". The way this defence works is that, if you are stupid enough to take it from a higher ranked player, then you get to deal with the repercussions, which is getting owned and having the planet taken back from you.

No one forces you to take the planet. That is YOUR decision alone. You then must deal with the consequences of YOUR actions.



No he doesn't. He lowers defence in order to have a higher production, because he knows that if someone smaller than him takes it, he can get it back easily.

Also, be glad that PA actually gives you a chance to avoid going to war. Other legions would not be so forgiving. Personally, I'd hunt every single one of your legion members down and disable them continuously without giving you a chance to surrender the planet back and avoid war.

"Also adjust the scan so that planets owned by ACTIVE players 50 or more levels lower would not scan. It would level the playing field and keep newer players in the game longer.
The only other way to do this is to just limit the players that anyone can attack to plus or minus 50 levels. This will also level the playing field and keep new players in the game longer."

I agree with the above, but i'm sorry if your stupid enough to attack someone many times your rank you deserve to get womped. Them not randomly being able to scan you down okay that i understand and it is perfectly reasonable. But you can't say hey i want to be able to take your stuff and you can't take it back because i'm lower level then you. The whole first part of your "suggestion" screams WHINGER to me. You attack someone, you'd better expect them to come after you for retribution. Every action has a consequence, stop trying to change game mechanics so you can attempt to rip off someone higher rank then you and them having no recourse....thats complete bs.


and i'm only rank 27 so its not like i'm some high rank player trying to squash your dream of being able to rip off higher rank players and get off free and clear.

While you might think it is bullying, 150 ranks from now you might not. IF you have the balls to take it, always flux it. And prepare to receive the butt whooping you are going to get. Remember you only have 48 hours until you are in the clear.

Look at it from the higher guys side, is it fair to him that he loses a planet and should not be able retaliate for it? No.

As for battle tabs hits, you should always scope out your targets, check their legion (you can also do this with planets) Do your homework first.

And my little bit of advice here is dont always go for the best planet you find if it is owned by a higher ranked guy. Save it for a rainy day when his legion steals from your legion, just return the favor.

+1 to all of this.

A guy took a planet from our Legion recently, so we gave him a good pounding even though he was a lower level. Of course, he threw a hissy fit about being disabled, has spent a bunch of money to level up, and threatened war with us. Don't be like that, it's a pretty bad attitude. You take a planet, you take a couple hits.

Just take it anyways. There are planets people want to lose to a level 20.

I was ready for the backlash, thats why I fluxed it. Anything he does after that is minor, I get 200 units an hour from that planet so im getting more each day than they are from raiding or hacking. As far as disables... HA if I leave it disabled I can still do missions, if I want to attack I repair and attack and work on battle tab untill ship is damaged to almost disabled. So they hit me and get and easy disable.... Ha does not bother me. Also I DEFEND MY PLANETS SO IT WILL COST HIM MORE TO GET IT BACK IF HE HAPPENS TO FIND IT SCANNING. bye lol lol lol

the idea about the levels? please dont, I'm a rank 30, and I've had a few LEGIONS on me,I alert one ship and blow the rest up, they're like twice my level and I still blow them up, they come back and attack me, I blow them up again, its the fun about this game, thats why I only blow people up that are in legions, but only legions with a huge amount of people from my level to twice my level.

Then i'm confused why your WHINGING if it doesn't bother you that much when they disable/raid you. based on your follow up post i don't see why you'd go to the trouble suggesting a method for you to snag something from a higher ranked player and make it such that they have absolutly ZILCH they can do because your lower level. This thread is 100% fail.

Your ridiculous!You took the planet now your gonna pay the consquences deal with it and stop looking for a way out i'm tired of your crying about in the forum.
And yes i jacked the thread.

The one who Starts can not claim the other for being a bully... and sound logical. If someone was TO take one of my best planets.. I would do everything I "could" to get it back or retaliate somehow. Why not? Just because their defense ON the planet is low..doesn't mean their DEFENSE is low. I have only taken two planets. One was by a low rank no legion who was inactive for 3 weeks..I waited to make sure. The other was in retaliation- I expected it to be regained by it's owner. I would NEVER attack, conquer, and steal a planet without EXPECTING war of some type. I do not agree with the idea of limiting retaliation by certain ranks. ESPECIALLY if one makes the first attack! I hardly EVER alert my small legion..but if someone was to take a good planet from us.. ... I wouldn't hesitate to retaliate as a legion if possible. I do so dislike BULLIES! Even the lower rank ones....

Waste of time trying to explain anything to you, obviously. HES IS BAITING YOU. I will try to explain. It’s a free game, unless you WANT to spend some money. So you can take free research, artifact and materials, they are FREE so no loss. You can only disable, raid and hack a ship a limited number of times each day after that, YOU CANT TOUCH IT. He got a 4x mega planet… which he claims was undefended and you seem to say it was also. I have a 4x mega planet, I get 200 units from it each hour, that’s 4800 units a day. You cant hack or raid me enough to get it back, SO HES AHEAD. You’re going to attack HIS Legion? That just gives them more targets to hack and raid and if they get a CRITICAL hit you might lose another good planet. And there are a lot of people who LOVE irritating bigger players no matter what happens to them, so leave your GOOD planets unprotected. I also love it, I can take it and I can flux it. There is a reason they put DEFENSE in the game, so use it. Don’t want to protect your planets because you’re a big mean legion and no one would dare attack you? DIDN’T WORK OUT SO WELL, DID IT. They put planet flux in the game for a reason. You cant get the planet back, and it can be used to keep your planet off of the planets scanned lists of other players. This game is fun, I get to take undefended planets from big self important players with big egos and bring them closer to reality. I can play the game for FREE. I lose Free items and can raid or hack to get them back. And if they REALLY think anything in the game is REAL I can take it and really irritate them. AND IT COSTS ME NOTHING BECAUSE THE GAME IS FREE. The only thing invested is my time and that got paid back with SO MUCH FUN. So keep on blustering, does not bother me, does not seem to bother him, just makes me SMILE. I hope he keeps up the good work.

Erm, 4800?

Yea, was thinking of 12 hours of daylight but have 12 hours of dark also. I corrected it.