Sacrilege and heresy! Daily!!
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Billik
Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:40 am Posts: 2812 Location: Just go north, and keep on going.
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Despite it's negative reviews by certain hardliners, public benefits such as welfare, unemployment, and disabilities prevent thousands from being homeless, which is worse for the economy.
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Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:12 pm |
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DarthRavadge
Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:26 pm Posts: 1621 Location: Orbiting the ruins of your base
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I completely understand your reasons for making the change but in my experience it is a poor choice. New members will feel they can never compete with old donations. High level players with good ap are not likely to care, but low-mid ranks will avoid a % legion.
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:54 am |
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galaxis
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:24 am Posts: 302
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wow i'm feeling the love today......where should i begin.....Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing and i do value everyone's opinions and suggestions.I think we were just feeling that higher ranks all together in a legion have the numbers for protection and production to be successful as a legion and if someone wants to come in and dump millions in energy into the base more power to them. You get out what you put in is the whole idea and its a long way to level 10 and above bases right? Lots of room for lots of contributors with one idea....to grow.I will tell you this, no one gets booted for contributing to the base no matter the effect it has on the folks already here.Why do people always think the worst?we started this idea pretty fairly i thought telling everyone who didn't want to do % distribution to head over to our sister legion that still has even distribution.No active players were kicked out into the cold.We thought maybe this could bring together alot of high rank ships into one legion with the production per person that could level the base quicker and in turn everyone grows quicker. I think it would work but people either don't trust our motives or for some other reason don't want to try this...I'll be honest I'm stumped why this doesn't look attractive to higher rank ships and please no more bashing on our attitudes towards low activity players. Does anyone truly like having around ships that do nothing but collect off the base and play their own personal game with no contact within the legion?Anyway it's looking more and more like this style of play just isn't for the people playing this game and it was such a simple dream....60 high rank ships all contributing to the base all getting their cut all active in legion goals like the missions and bases....why can't that legion be out there?
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:58 pm |
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Consigliere
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:51 pm Posts: 293
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I don't bash players who don't want to be here. I totally understand why they wouldn't. It isn't for everyone and I'm all for people wanting to play by their own style. Let's face it. The game gets pretty dull at this level and I'm for trying things to spice it up a bit. Maybe it will work, maybe not. I'm not losing sleep either way.
It's a shot at trying something short of retirement after 4 years of doing it one way, which is where I'm at. As for someone coming in and crushing all the contribution records, I encourage it! I WANT someone to jump us to level 8 and if that someone isn't out there, that's ok.
Nothing lasts forever.
I feel bad that this idea devolved into something unintended.
Not sure I'm going to retire, but I'm sure I remember why I don't come to the forums that much.
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:01 pm |
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eternalpaw
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:31 pm Posts: 471
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I think the idea is a sound one, but i'm not sure the execution is going to work. For something like this to work properly, all 60 members would have to start out on the same playing field i.e. brand new base with no contributions. Then as a legion, contributions could be made at the same time. As it stands now, unless you are able to contribute financially (RP, EM, CTP) and have that portion of the base research tree unlocked, any new recruit will fall light years behind other ships in their rank range. Now this may not be much of an issue in the grand scheme of things once you have a high production count, but I'd bet that even those ships with 100K aph would still not be keen to lose the 80k per day from the base until they were able to contribute enough. With that said, I applaud your efforts to try something new. Who knows, maybe one day more bases will take this approach. Good luck 
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:27 pm |
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Consigliere
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:51 pm Posts: 293
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Thought about starting a new one, but it wouldn't take long for disparities in the contribution amounts to appear and those who fell behind would be looking for something else anyway. Figured we might as well work with what we've already built and go from there. It may not work on this attempt, but that's partly because there have been no serious outside inquests into what it would take to be profitable. Would be better for the legion if there were more people, but we have several people who stayed with no payout at all because they understand there's more to the legion than a payout. Anyway, I said earlier I understood completely why people would leave and why others don't come. The initial post was over the top of course, but the business practice can be sound and profitable for anyone interested. The fact that not everyone is interested is perfectly fine and expected. We like what we're doing, it adds legion member accountability and I'm really impressed with people of all ranks who get it and stayed here understanding how it was going to go. I guess we can't be all THAT bad. I think in time the legion will grow because someone will check us out, be pleasantly surprised, and word will spread. Until then, we'll just keep rolling along having fun in a way you don't approve of.  Cheers and happy hunting.
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:51 pm |
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Levrosh
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:35 pm Posts: 1975
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Consigliere wrote: Thought about starting a new one, but it wouldn't take long for disparities in the contribution amounts to appear and those who fell behind would be looking for something else anyway. Figured we might as well work with what we've already built and go from there. It may not work on this attempt, but that's partly because there have been no serious outside inquests into what it would take to be profitable. Would be better for the legion if there were more people, but we have several people who stayed with no payout at all because they understand there's more to the legion than a payout. Anyway, I said earlier I understood completely why people would leave and why others don't come. The initial post was over the top of course, but the business practice can be sound and profitable for anyone interested. The fact that not everyone is interested is perfectly fine and expected. We like what we're doing, it adds legion member accountability and I'm really impressed with people of all ranks who get it and stayed here understanding how it was going to go. I guess we can't be all THAT bad. I think in time the legion will grow because someone will check us out, be pleasantly surprised, and word will spread. Until then, we'll just keep rolling along having fun in a way you don't approve of.  Cheers and happy hunting. Classy. It's your legion= your choice. Have a nice day. 
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