I'm only a rank 250 so I couldn't join the big boys, but are there any other legions that would accept me, who are capable of taking their own lvl 6 base locks down by themselves? Or even legions that take down lvl 6s from invites from smaller legions?

Reason I ask is that I've been in legions who have BGs with say two of the top 5 legions. Because of my rank, all that happens is I get pushed down to about a 40 spot in the damage list when hitting the targetted base. I can't compete with the higher ranked ships.

I know Gentry only get help from Lords on 6s, so they are an option for me. Just wondering if I have any other choices for legions to join?

One thing (two things) to ask : what's your attack unbuffed, and your e bar ?

I hit most lv6 bases - 50k average def - dealing only 30-70 damage per hit, that's with 20k attack, so usually I rarely spend less than 1.5k e to get into 20-30th spot, usually it takes 2k e to get a decent 70-80% raid chance.

I have around 13.5k att and a 3k energy bar with reactors installed. I think you can see my problem given what you've said.

I just can't afford to spend that much energy competing with x amount of high rank ships from two other legions.

You want to join a legion where 2 or 3 people do all the work killing level 6 bases so that you can get in top 20 spots without doing more than ~ 1000 damage?

Hmm... then it is not the time for you to hoard those 4-5 silvers/base

You're still 250 ... having 13.5k attack (unbuffed?) by that rank is an impressive feat! Be patient... I join hitting bases at 500+, before that I only tap on bases or deal at least 200-400 dmg to get ahead of other tappers...

When you put it like that it does look bad. But, yes



Okay, thanks for the advice. I will have to head over to Gentry then. Seems like the service Lords provides for them really is unique.

Are you wanting better raid chances to get adumbrate stations or more silvers or more crystals or???

lol adumbrate stations!? It's all for the crystals. Hard enough to even get one from a massive base crate, let alone when the chance of even successfully raiding a lvl 6 base is so low.

Maybe I haven't thought this through properly. I just figured there may be a legion with a handful of base specialists that could take down the easy to medium toughness lvl 6 bases when required, with the rest of the legion left to fight it out for better spots.

you can get crystals from level 5 base crates too ... at least half of mine came from those.

we lock many easy glass 5's at Ancient Untouchables (which we of course share with Gentry and Lords).

If you primary goal is get more crystals, then you are likely better off in one of the legions that scans for EotS and GP

Colossal crates have a much better enumeration crystal drop rate than any other crate.
Level 5 bases are a waste of time for crystals, terrible drop rate and you get a paltry amount of silver badges

I doubt there is another base group that does as many level 7 bases as we do, with as few legions as we do.
I don't have any idea which of our scan legions provides the most level 7 bases but if you message me in PM or on facebook then I'll help you find a scan legion to join or if you are already in one (I assume you are) then maybe you'll do better in a different one since some of them are more active during different time zones.

Many legions will say they do level 6+ bases 3 times a day but few of those legions actually do.
Ask for proof before wasting your time and joining one of those legions.
If they aren't willing to show you the damage lists then its probably not worth your time joining.

Did I ever find that out the hard way.

I wouldn't mind a bit of help to find the right legion for me. I will PM you in just a bit. Thanks.

I wouldn't join a feeder legion.... from personal experience (and being the same rank as you), you won't be getting the same level of success as you would in a legion that occasionally does 6s. Being a feeder just means less silvers for you and less chance at a base crate.

Here at The Terranian Armada we do a lot of high level bases, and we scan for EOTS and GP! You are welcome to join us

I'm curious about this.
Would you be willing to screen shot the bases your legion kills in a week and compare them to one of our scan legions?

We would make a post and just post the screen shots from each day for a week straight and compare silver gains and raid positions.

In theory the max amount of bases a scan legion can see in a week is 21. Thats the same we can see. Of those bases I'm assuming most are being fed to the bigger legions. If it's a level 7 base with 40 spots being filled up by the bigger legions players, then the guy who is my rank, even if he's doing as much damage as he can, will probably fall either in the low 30s or even lower. Thats how I found my luck to be. At that rate I was barely getting any crates.

At that rate you are better off being in a legion that locks glass 6s or even 5s. Your silver count may not be AS high as a level 7, but your chances at a crate would be better then it would on a harder 6 with a bunch of legions hitting it. Just my experience.

At DoR we do plenty of Glass 6s and even a handful of relatively easy 6s without help, though when needed we can ask our BG for help. But you could get much more silvers being in a bg type legion then a feeder IMO.

So how many badges did the rank 250s in Galactic Spot get off that disable? I'm sure it was less then had they locked a base on their own.

You might get more silvers if you are still at the low leechish stage. Since I have been at TA we have pretty much had bases around the clock, and this week alone I have locked atleast four glass 6s. With everyone being from varying time zones and on at different times I don't see how you would consistently fall below 40 or even 30 like you are suggesting

if you are not a heavy hitter ... going to a legion that locks glass 6's and 5's will net you WAY more silvers and crates than joining a feeder legion. sure, level 7 base crates are sweet ... but good luck doing enough damage to get one. at rank 250, trying to go head to head with those above rank 1000 for base drops is just foolish.

one of the reasons i went heavily into PvP raiding was to pick up the raiding % bonuses to assist with base raids ... getting 100% raids down to 13th damage (level 5's) and 16th damage spot (level 6's and higher) makes getting crystals from lower level crates much more feasible. come december, i am toying with going to raider profession so that i can get 100% raids at 23rd spot on level 5 bases and 100% raids at 28th spot on level 6+ bases. if you can line up all those raiding bonuses, THEN joining a feeder legion would make sense.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Here at Swords of Gods we lock glass 5s and 6s about twice a day. We have a one hit policy, two hits for the player that scans. We have a standard ffa mark and at which time one of us ( usually me) takes it down. This ensures everybody gets the best raid % they can get, regardless of placement on the list