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If your thinking of selling a planet to The Ancients Of Atlantis you might want to think again. I was brought to their legion and paid an agreed upon price. Then MARTOVSKY decides he no longer wants the planet in question and agrees to take 50% of his money back. I send an installment as I diddn't have all the cash on hand and was going to be hanging around until i regathered the remaining. Next thing you know they boot me from the legion de-friend me, block my communication, and proceed to tell me it was my problem. Never once talking to me. So now I'm being disabled and farmed for badges.
Just a heads up in case it happens to you!


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If your thinking of selling a planet to The Ancients Of Atlantis you might want to think again. I was brought to their legion and paid an agreed upon price. Then MARTOVSKY decides he no longer wants the planet in question and agrees to take 50% of his money back. I send an installment as I diddn't have all the cash on hand and was going to be hanging around until i regathered the remaining. Next thing you know they boot me from the legion de-friend me, block my communication, and proceed to tell me it was my problem. Never once talking to me. So now I'm being disabled and farmed for badges.
Just a heads up in case it happens to you!

I did cancel the transaction and i respectfully requestedif you could refund 2000KU which you agreed apon you then did not pay and also requesting strange stuff on the legion comm leaders got suspicous so we removed you and i decided instead of my payment out on your ship since i lost out on 3500KU i would take it back from your artifact draw i have stopped attacking you and dont feel like there's much to gain from it anymore if you want to slander our name go ahead we do trades everyday with multiple other player with no problems.

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Here's a vid for you to ya greystar :p
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If your thinking of selling a planet to The Ancients Of Atlantis you might want to think again. I was brought to their legion and paid an agreed upon price. Then MARTOVSKY decides he no longer wants the planet in question and agrees to take 50% of his money back. I send an installment as I diddn't have all the cash on hand and was going to be hanging around until i regathered the remaining. Next thing you know they boot me from the legion de-friend me, block my communication, and proceed to tell me it was my problem. Never once talking to me. So now I'm being disabled and farmed for badges.
Just a heads up in case it happens to you!

I did cancel the transaction and i respectfully requestedif you could refund 2000KU which you agreed apon you then did not pay and also requesting strange stuff on the legion comm leaders got suspicous so we removed you and i decided instead of my payment out on your ship since i lost out on 3500KU i would take it back from your artifact draw i have stopped attacking you and dont feel like there's much to gain from it anymore if you want to slander our name go ahead we do trades everyday with multiple other player with no problems.


When you agree on a price, and bring him to your Legion to alert the planet. You can't expect him to be there for a whole week and then decide: "On second thought, I don't want the planet. Give me back my money.". It's poor ethic with trading.

Then, you farm him because you didn't get back all your money? That is both your own fault, and your own problem. Grow up and learn to respect your trades. Don't be a #*&$.


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If your thinking of selling a planet to The Ancients Of Atlantis you might want to think again. I was brought to their legion and paid an agreed upon price. Then MARTOVSKY decides he no longer wants the planet in question and agrees to take 50% of his money back. I send an installment as I diddn't have all the cash on hand and was going to be hanging around until i regathered the remaining. Next thing you know they boot me from the legion de-friend me, block my communication, and proceed to tell me it was my problem. Never once talking to me. So now I'm being disabled and farmed for badges.
Just a heads up in case it happens to you!

I did cancel the transaction and i respectfully requestedif you could refund 2000KU which you agreed apon you then did not pay and also requesting strange stuff on the legion comm leaders got suspicous so we removed you and i decided instead of my payment out on your ship since i lost out on 3500KU i would take it back from your artifact draw i have stopped attacking you and dont feel like there's much to gain from it anymore if you want to slander our name go ahead we do trades everyday with multiple other player with no problems.


When you agree on a price, and bring him to your Legion to alert the planet. You can't expect him to be there for a whole week and then decide: "On second thought, I don't want the planet. Give me back my money.". It's poor ethic with trading.

Then, you farm him because you didn't get back all your money? That is both your own fault, and your own problem. Grow up and learn to respect your trades. Don't be a #*&$.



I agree...after agreeing to a deal and sending your payment the deal is down...you take your planet and get over it if you don't want it because you made a bad buy...but once the money has changed hands the deal is down....it is puts a very bad light on AoA....I myself will not be trading any planets with them after hearing this....and any artifact trades will cost more for AoA....Grey wasn't in the wrong here...in fact I applaud him for bringing it to everyone's attention

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Greystar55042 wrote:
If your thinking of selling a planet to The Ancients Of Atlantis you might want to think again. I was brought to their legion and paid an agreed upon price. Then MARTOVSKY decides he no longer wants the planet in question and agrees to take 50% of his money back. I send an installment as I diddn't have all the cash on hand and was going to be hanging around until i regathered the remaining. Next thing you know they boot me from the legion de-friend me, block my communication, and proceed to tell me it was my problem. Never once talking to me. So now I'm being disabled and farmed for badges.
Just a heads up in case it happens to you!

I did cancel the transaction and i respectfully requestedif you could refund 2000KU which you agreed apon you then did not pay and also requesting strange stuff on the legion comm leaders got suspicous so we removed you and i decided instead of my payment out on your ship since i lost out on 3500KU i would take it back from your artifact draw i have stopped attacking you and dont feel like there's much to gain from it anymore if you want to slander our name go ahead we do trades everyday with multiple other player with no problems.


When you agree on a price, and bring him to your Legion to alert the planet. You can't expect him to be there for a whole week and then decide: "On second thought, I don't want the planet. Give me back my money.". It's poor ethic with trading.

Then, you farm him because you didn't get back all your money? That is both your own fault, and your own problem. Grow up and learn to respect your trades. Don't be a #*&$.

You dont understand the first day i cancelled it ( which isnt wrong ) he agreed to pay me half back he didnt so we booted and farmed him simple its over and done with he's not getting hit anymore case closed

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..in fact I applaud him for bringing it to everyone's attention



Well said.


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Sorry but there's such thing as mutual respect and and trust in trading i personally would have gave him half back but he didnt fair enough no big deal so he got his ass kicked for it the same will go for anyone else who trades with us and $%&% us over simples and thank you but we dont need you trade

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Sorry but there's such thing as mutual respect and and trust in trading i personally would have gave him half back but he didnt fair enough no big deal so he got his ass kicked for it the same will go for anyone else who trades with us and $%&% us over simples and thank you but we dont need you trade


You didn't get $%&% over. He did.

You were the one who $%&% him over. The mutual respect and trust in trading is trusting that when you receive your money that the trade is done. That money is yours. (EDIT: Unless you fail to present your side of things, but I am not getting into specifics. This is assuming that the "seller" has given the goods to the "buyer" or still plans to.)

The respect is that when the person is buying that they will honor their side of the deal by not demanding a refund for merchandise that has nothing wrong with it, or hasn't changed since the purchase was made.

So yes, I agree. Respect and Trust.

I will be sending out word to a few friends that MART0 is not to be trusted with trades, and for them to be wary about Trading with AoA.


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:| i have traded with AOA and Evan with there leader MAR....and to be honest this is disturbing news.....we allso had a deal that didnt go as plan and until recently we settled it .....so to hear this worries me to think a good trade partner was capable of doing this :shock: ....and yeah dude when we did our deal u never atked me and i owed u 5000 kur so i dont see how this came to happened :?: :?:

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:| i have traded with AOA and Evan with there leader MAR....and to be honest this is disturbing news.....we allso had a deal that didnt go as plan and until recently we settled it .....so to hear this worries me to think a good trade partner was capable of doing this :shock: ....and yeah dude when we did our deal u never atked me and i owed u 5000 kur so i dont see how this came to happened :?: :?:


Perhaps this other buyer belongs to a smaller Legion. If they were to attack you, it would trigger a war. In this case, a war would be suicide for the "seller". So, he would have had to just sit there and take it.

In light of recent news, it seems as though you weren't attacked by MART0 here because you're stronger, or equally as strong. A force to be reckoned with if he decided to pull a #*&$ move like he did here.


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I want to know why you guys paid him in the first place? lol When you trade for a planet you don't give the funds till you get the planet. Or at least only pay for half of it. And once you do pay for it you can't just up and decide that you no longer want the world for what ever reason. Once you agree on a planet trade and have the other player leave their legion losing all base attacks, and production for a week at least you can just say thanks but no thanks. lol

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MARTOVSKY just removed and banned me from the Galaxy Trading post for linking this thread there, he was lining up another sale and I informed the other participant of its existence, with no other comments, I then receive a good few minutes of random abuse and claims im slandering his legion.

He also gave me some rather amusing verbal abuse, but Ill let that slide as he seems to be an idiot

I dont have an issue with AOA for the record, but Im not one to take too kindly to unprovoked abuse.

I am as of now buying any and all MARTOVSKY Planets, if theyre worth the loss to him (not going to do him any favours) - contact me, and we shall sort something out

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MARTOVSKY just removed and banned me from the Galaxy Trading post for linking this thread there, he was lining up another sale and I informed the other participant of its existence, with no other comments, I then receive a good few minutes of random abuse and claims im slandering his legion.

He also gave me some rather amusing verbal abuse, but Ill let that slide as he seems to be an idiot

I dont have an issue with AOA for the record, but Im not one to take too kindly to unprovoked abuse.

I am as of now buying any and all MARTOVSKY Planets, if theyre worth the loss to him (not going to do him any favours) - contact me, and we shall sort something out

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If you would like, I could see what I can do about getting you back in? A member of one of the groups I'm in is an Admin over there so I'm certain under the circumstances he could do something?


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wow i cant believe he went as far as to bane u prom the post .....thats just low to do so is well...cowardly i think other traders should kno about this not that im against u m8 like i said we are friends a nd trad regularly but the way u handled things is .....well a breech of the trust between traders and GL players

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I want to know why you guys paid him in the first place? lol When you trade for a planet you don't give the funds till you get the planet. Or at least only pay for half of it. And once you do pay for it you can't just up and decide that you no longer want the world for what ever reason. Once you agree on a planet trade and have the other player leave their legion losing all base attacks, and production for a week at least you can just say thanks but no thanks. lol

Because he said he needed the funds at the time so i was good enough to go out my way to help him out i got treated like dirt for helping him out you guys can hate all you want you really dont know what happened only what he says make your minds up do what you like i cant be bothered taking flack for this its in the past and it doesnt reflect on how i trade or how i treat my friends judge me for 1 mistake or all the good i have done thanks

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I want to know why you guys paid him in the first place? lol When you trade for a planet you don't give the funds till you get the planet. Or at least only pay for half of it. And once you do pay for it you can't just up and decide that you no longer want the world for what ever reason. Once you agree on a planet trade and have the other player leave their legion losing all base attacks, and production for a week at least you can just say thanks but no thanks. lol

Because he said he needed the funds at the time so i was good enough to go out my way to help him out i got treated like dirt for helping him out you guys can hate all you want you really dont know what happened only what he says make your minds up do what you like i cant be bothered taking flack for this its in the past and it doesnt reflect on how i trade or how i treat my friends judge me for 1 mistake or all the good i have done thanks


Mind informing us of how he treated you like dirt? All that you have said is that he didn't give you your refund right away because he didn't have the money anymore at the time. However, he was more than willing to get it for you from what he said you would have just had to wait a little bit.

He was willing to give you that refund. Doesn't seem like he treated you like dirt to me.


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I'm an adman there and will add you back if you send me a friend request Death.

I had no prob with you from this still but what I don't like is that you then kicked him after he posted this link there. Why do that if it is in the past.

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I personally also had no actual problem with you for any of this. Everyone makes mistakes from time to time, but to let your mistake on the purchase lead you to farm someone, as well as ban someone from a Facebook group for a stupid reason.

That is when it gets to be a bit much. Just figured at first I'd inform you that it was a #*&$ move, and stick up for the little guy in this predicament.


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Its not in the past lol.

5 mins ago From: MARTOVSKY
MARTOVSKY attacked you and set off your Halcyon Trap!
5 mins ago From: MARTOVSKY
MARTOVSKY attacked you and set off your Krionus Virus Trap!
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MARTOVSKY attacked you and set off your Omicron Mine Trap!
16 mins ago From: JoeMFC
JoeMFC attacked you and set off your Halcyon Trap!
19 mins ago From: Slade
Slade attacked you and set off your Halcyon Trap!
19 mins ago From: Slade
Slade attacked you and set off your Krionus Virus Trap!
19 mins ago From: Slade
Slade attacked you and set off your Krionus Virus Trap!
19 mins ago From: Slade
Slade attacked you and set off your Omicron Mine Trap!
4 hours, 23 mins ago From: Slade
Slade attacked you and set off your Halcyon Trap!
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Slade has hit your ship with a Disarming Bomb. Your weapons will be 10% less effective temporarily
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MARTOVSKY attacked you and set off your Halcyon Trap!
9 hours, 18 mins ago From: MARTOVSKY
MARTOVSKY attacked you and set off your Omicron Mine Trap!
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RexMundiAbu hacked you and set off your Quantum Firewall Trap!
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129 Artifact Points were stolen from you by MARTOVSKY
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22 hours, 4 mins ago From: Danielsf
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22 hours, 10 mins ago From: JoeMFC
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22 hours, 10 mins ago From: JoeMFC
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22 hours, 10 mins ago From: JoeMFC
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22 hours, 32 mins ago From: MARTOVSKY
MARTOVSKY attacked you and set off your Halcyon Trap!
22 hours, 33 mins ago From: JoeMFC
You have been kicked from The Ancients Of Atlantis by JoeMFC


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