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So, as a slow ranking PvPer, what kind of layout should I have on my ship to optimize my PvP abilities?

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Step 1 Max Hull (VERY important Hull is KING)
Step 2 Max Guns (also important after you have 5x of the best hulls get the best guns)
Step 3 Max Defense
Step 4 Max Energy
Step 5 Max Sheild.


That is all.

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Step 1 Max Hull (VERY important Hull is KING)
Step 2 Max Guns (also important after you have 5x of the best hulls get the best guns)
Step 3 Max Defense
Step 4 Max Energy
Step 5 Max Sheild.


That is all.


slow ranker with max energy ?? o.O defeats the purpose.. the beauty of slow ranking is you get the extra room that would other wise be taken up with energy modules.. other than that the order is good :mrgreen: i would replace energy with cloak, then you can get hacks aswell.... cos hacking is funz :mrgreen:

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Well it's a good job I have a spare 200bil to install them and 20bil income/day isn't it? Yup, just gotta finish up the heavy chaotics and I'll be there... :roll:

On a more serious note, I have:
324 decks
Singularity Launchers
Inertial Cancelers
Nanosphere Plating (currently researching Q-Phase plating)
Quantum Capacitors (kinda neglected)
Quantum Resonance Sensors
Refraction Panel Mk1

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I "get by" in PvP with around 1000 attack (run 3 heavy quantums, 2 Dominion #1s and some extras), around 500 defence (4 dark rings, plus extras), 800 hull and 150 shields (I run 1 merged nanosphere (researching last tier of q-phased) and 1 vortul, and no shield modules).

That's at rank 116 - use that as a guideline.
I'd say get more energy - I know you're a slow ranker, but more energy = more attacks.

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I "get by" in PvP with around 1000 attack (run 3 heavy quantums, 2 Dominion #1s and some extras), around 500 defence (4 dark rings, plus extras), 800 hull and 150 shields (I run 1 merged nanosphere (researching last tier of q-phased) and 1 vortul, and no shield modules).

That's at rank 116 - use that as a guideline.
I'd say get more energy - I know you're a slow ranker, but more energy = more attacks.



Size Class Heavy Cruiser
Weapons Heavy Quantum Devastator x3, Dominion Cannon x4
Energy Quantum Capacitor - Mark IV x2, Omicron Injector
Sensors AI Supercomputer
Hull Merged Nanosphere Plating x4
Shields Harmonic Resonator
Cloaking none
Defenses Inertial Canceler - Mark III

The reason I have not yet installed singularity launchers is because I am going on holiday and it would be a waste of money.

Planned build:

Size Class Heavy Cruiser
Weapons Heavy Singularity Launcher x2, Dominion Cannon x4
Energy Singularity Core Mk IV, Omicron Injector
Sensors AI Supercomputer
Hull Overcharged Q-Phased Plating x3
Shields Harmonic Resonator
Cloaking none
Defenses Microwarp Nacelle Mk III

That is for the near future (65?) and rank 100...

Size Class Dreadnaught
Weapons Heavy Singularity Launcher x3, Dominion Cannon Mk III x4, Crimson Auto Phaser x4 (or Vortul Blast Phasers)
Energy Singularity Core Mk IV, Drannik Core x4, Omicron Injector
Sensors AI Supercomputer
Hull Merged Nexus Plating x3
Shields Harmonic Resonator
Cloaking none
Defenses Quantum Overlay Engine Mk III, Dark Ring Thruster x4

Which would give me:
1657 attack
616 defense
2106 hull
323 energy
+ crew
+ passives

So around
1675 attack
676 defense
2286 hull
423 energy

And hopefully I'll get enough shipbots+extra rank points to fit relays.

Now yeah, that wont be amazingly slow ranking, but by 100 I'll have probably moved onto NPCs anyway.

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Pertominus wrote:
Alz wrote:
Step 1 Max Hull (VERY important Hull is KING)
Step 2 Max Guns (also important after you have 5x of the best hulls get the best guns)
Step 3 Max Defense
Step 4 Max Energy
Step 5 Max Sheild.


That is all.


slow ranker with max energy ?? o.O defeats the purpose.. the beauty of slow ranking is you get the extra room that would other wise be taken up with energy modules.. other than that the order is good :mrgreen: i would replace energy with cloak, then you can get hacks aswell.... cos hacking is funz :mrgreen:


Hacking really is just fun. :mrgreen: Especially when they freak out because you got a crit hack and you're sitting there like "Ummm... You think I have any control over that?" :lol:

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If you're just interested in blocking hacks then scan works out better than cloak. It also helps a bit with crit hits.

I'm not a slow ranker/PvP player but the value of hull versus defence is relevant to me. I just wonder if it'd be better to have higher defence and a smaller hull? Dark Ring Thrusters were all I used (for NPC hunting) till about rank 180-200 when ship repair costs were cheaper but when I switched to more expensive ship parts I had to focus on my defence. Went with defence tech rather than hull and I think it worked out well for me.

You should be able to see The Dark Ring at level 60. Might be better to hit that than research defence tech. Cheaper to run too. The XP bonus might be a little annoying for your strategy though.

I don't really bother which shields. Finally researching Obviation tech to get the planet structure at rank 368. (Would have done it earlier but I had to research into the top tier of weapons and defences for the legion base). It means I am an easier target for high rank players but 5057 defence tends to put a lot of players off.

Guess the big bonus of slow rank PvP is getting those Mk3 Dominion Cannons. I still ain't got one of those yet. Keep eating traps.

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Also, if you're raiding the Protean Armory battle market ship part is a pretty nice little upgrade to hull. Raiding gains no XP but it's hard if you've not got much of a crew.

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Size Class Dreadnaught
Weapons Heavy Singularity Launcher x3, Dominion Cannon Mk III x4, Crimson Auto Phaser x4 (or Vortul Blast Phasers)
Energy Singularity Core Mk IV, Drannik Core x4, Omicron Injector
Sensors AI Supercomputer
Hull Merged Nexus Plating x3
Shields Harmonic Resonator
Cloaking none
Defenses Quantum Overlay Engine Mk III

Which would give me:
1657 attack
616 defense
2106 hull
323 energy
+ crew
+ passives

So around
1675 attack
676 defense
2286 hull
423 energy


That defense doesn't add up. Perhaps you included dark ring thrusters in working the figures out, then forgot to put them down?

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strm avenger wrote:
Size Class Dreadnaught
Weapons Heavy Singularity Launcher x3, Dominion Cannon Mk III x4, Crimson Auto Phaser x4 (or Vortul Blast Phasers)
Energy Singularity Core Mk IV, Drannik Core x4, Omicron Injector
Sensors AI Supercomputer
Hull Merged Nexus Plating x3
Shields Harmonic Resonator
Cloaking none
Defenses Quantum Overlay Engine Mk III

Which would give me:
1657 attack
616 defense
2106 hull
323 energy
+ crew
+ passives

So around
1675 attack
676 defense
2286 hull
423 energy


That defense doesn't add up. Perhaps you included dark ring thrusters in working the figures out, then forgot to put them down?


D'oh! Yeah, meant to include dark ring thrusters.

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Also, if you're raiding the Protean Armory battle market ship part is a pretty nice little upgrade to hull. Raiding gains no XP but it's hard if you've not got much of a crew.


I'm trying to get them, but my crew is rather small. On the plus side, they have a gym, luxury bedroom, arcade, swimming pool, and cinema each. :D

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I'm trying to get them, but my crew is rather small. On the plus side, they have a gym, luxury bedroom, arcade, swimming pool, and cinema each. :D


hehehehe.. i worked out the other day i have 750 odd crew and 720 odd deck.... meaning there is one crewmen per deck, considering over half my crew are androids and dont need quarters/recreational area's. so the question was: what the hell do i do with all that space?? answer: rent it out for a robo-death tournament :mrgreen:

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strm avenger wrote:
I'm trying to get them, but my crew is rather small. On the plus side, they have a gym, luxury bedroom, arcade, swimming pool, and cinema each. :D


hehehehe.. i worked out the other day i have 750 odd crew and 720 odd deck.... meaning there is one crewmen per deck, considering over half my crew are androids and dont need quarters/recreational area's. so the question was: what the hell do i do with all that space?? answer: rent it out for a robo-death tournament :mrgreen:


100 Engineers
15 Tactical Officers
36 Helmsmen
35 Scientists
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186 crew.

324 decks.

So they have almost 2 decks each.

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211 engineers
44 Tactical officers
110 helmsmen
215 scientists
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590 crewmen (+1 the cap'n)
590 decks

A deck per crewmen? Weird coincedence

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Max Weapons! (after all you are PvPing)
Max Hull
Max Defense
Max Shield

Then whatever else, maybe energy.

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Slow ranking, do not install cloak for scanners. Only the NPC or mission ones.
At least put 1 rank put into Tac. Officer, and 4 into deck, you can get helmsmen later.


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Max Weapons! (after all you are PvPing)
Max Hull
Max Defense
Max Shield


This kind of post isn't useful really. I'm too low rank to think about having 8 weapons installed, unless I use crappy ones.

8x39= 312.
I have 324 decks. :roll:
12 decks for defenses+hull+anything else I want

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yeah i was wondering where everyone else was going w/ this thread...

1 of the best hull you can get
1 of the best weapon you can get
1 of the best defense you can get

then continue to fill the decks... i usually go
H
W D
W D
H
W D
W D
H
W D
W D
H
W D
W D
H

while filling decks, use the 4 best defenses first, then the next 4 defenses should be the best of the next lower tier
if i run out of space before i hit the end, i'll usually delete one defense (the smaller ones if i'm already at 5 or more) and max out my remaining decks with hulls

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I don't PVP very much, but once you get max everything, you should grab extra modules. If you want hull, do the missions that give you Kalvium Plating, since the combined 10% hull bonus is awesome. Some other other missions give you pretty good missions, and do some NPC bossing to grab other bonuses. That's my suggestions.

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strm avenger wrote:
XxDestroyxX wrote:
Max Weapons! (after all you are PvPing)
Max Hull
Max Defense
Max Shield


This kind of post isn't useful really. I'm too low rank to think about having 8 weapons installed, unless I use crappy ones.

8x39= 312.
I have 324 decks. :roll:
12 decks for defenses+hull+anything else I want

Sorry, i became aware of your rank afterwards, therefore i would have to say maybe 3-4 of your best weapon...maybe Dom cannons if ya have them, and then hull and defense. I would suggest maybe 2 defenses and the rest hull, if you are a heavy PvPer than all 5 hulls should be equiped.


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