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Bleepin
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:09 pm Posts: 454
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It seems i read a thread about this but couldn't find it in a search.
When doing a scanning blitzs for Planets - what is the Scan level to planets found ratio?
I have 146 planets in my scans now after using star chart purge when i get them.
How much scan do I need to scan for planets at good rating?
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Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:38 pm |
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Mark W
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:51 pm Posts: 259
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I figure if I scan until it says I need more scanners to avoid wasting energy, I get 1 planet for about 16 - 17 scan. I am not sure it is linear however. I figure that I will colonize or invade about 1 in 20 that I scan. On the last blitz, I scanned 236 planets and colonized 5 and successfully invaded 5, failed invasions of 2, and may try for 2 or 3 more.
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Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:31 am |
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destroyer43
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:01 pm Posts: 2072
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the amount of scan it takes to maintain a planet in your scan list is exponential. I believe it's on how many planes you have scanned, for me I have about 330 planets scanned with a max scanning power of 330 so it's about 9-10 scan per planet for me if we can get enough data points, someone may be able to figure out the equation for the amount of scan it takes to maintain a planet in your scan database.
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Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:03 am |
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Bleepin
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:09 pm Posts: 454
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with the sensors i have researched, I can get 1073. I can then do tachyon (50), subspace seeker(175) and contin beacon(15%) and get near 1495.
How many planets do you think I can scan at that level of scan (already have 145 in scan list)?
If its 10 scan for each planet - that means only 149 planets - so only 4 more. Is my math correct on this?
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Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:23 am |
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destroyer43
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:01 pm Posts: 2072
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Bleepin wrote: with the sensors i have researched, I can get 1073. I can then do tachyon (50), subspace seeker(175) and contin beacon(15%) and get near 1495.
How many planets do you think I can scan at that level of scan (already have 145 in scan list)?
If its 10 scan for each planet - that means only 149 planets - so only 4 more. Is my math correct on this? well since you have less planets I would assume you scan per planet is about 7-8 so you should be able to scan about 38-65 more planets, although it would probably be difficult.
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Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:29 am |
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BinaryMan
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:40 pm Posts: 1671
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Failure rate is always at least 15-20%, regardless of scan quality. This seems to be regardless of things like cloaked planets, and remains unexplained.
Previous data:
Scanning Power: 5402 Planets Discovered: 493
Scanning Power: 7185 Planets Discovered: 438 (good to fair transition) 600+ (couldn't max out)
Scanning Power: 8488 Planets Discovered: 698 (max, gray)
It's a logarithmic curve of declining % success, but generally at higher levels it's something like scan power divided by 10 to 12, although it's damn hard to actually max out gray in terms of energy (multiple cubes).
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Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:55 am |
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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except for at 0 planets... which appears to be 100% chance to find a planet on your first click
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Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:14 pm |
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Remainder
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:11 am Posts: 556
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The key is being prepared to burn lots of energy to get more planets. When I do a scan blitz I might be still scanning after 20 or 30 clicks with no planets found. It may be harder at your level to burn all that precious energy but it's worth it for better planets.
Also, see if you can get a Stryll Seeker to boost your scan by another 5%. I can't remember the NPC it comes from.
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Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:25 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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Remainder wrote: The key is being prepared to burn lots of energy to get more planets. When I do a scan blitz I might be still scanning after 20 or 30 clicks with no planets found. It may be harder at your level to burn all that precious energy but it's worth it for better planets.
Also, see if you can get a Stryll Seeker to boost your scan by another 5%. I can't remember the NPC it comes from. Stryll Hunter R55, Stryll Skirmisher R110, Stryll Devastator R180 and their big brother Stryll Desolator R400.
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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Darth Flagitious wrote: Remainder wrote: The key is being prepared to burn lots of energy to get more planets. When I do a scan blitz I might be still scanning after 20 or 30 clicks with no planets found. It may be harder at your level to burn all that precious energy but it's worth it for better planets.
Also, see if you can get a Stryll Seeker to boost your scan by another 5%. I can't remember the NPC it comes from. Stryll Skirmisher R110, Stryll Devastator R180 and their big brother Stryll Desolator R400. It's also 10%. I think there is also a lower ranked Stryll, the Stryll Hunter R55. http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/The_Stryll_Order
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Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:36 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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strm avenger wrote: Darth Flagitious wrote: Remainder wrote: The key is being prepared to burn lots of energy to get more planets. When I do a scan blitz I might be still scanning after 20 or 30 clicks with no planets found. It may be harder at your level to burn all that precious energy but it's worth it for better planets.
Also, see if you can get a Stryll Seeker to boost your scan by another 5%. I can't remember the NPC it comes from. Stryll Skirmisher R110, Stryll Devastator R180 and their big brother Stryll Desolator R400. It's also 10%. I think there is also a lower ranked Stryll, the Stryll Hunter R55. http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/The_Stryll_OrderYou are correct Strm... it's been awhile since I saw one of those...
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Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:39 pm |
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BinaryMan
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:40 pm Posts: 1671
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The seeker is 10% I think, and the npc series that drops it ends with the rank 400 one, which stops spawning at 1200 or 1300 I think, so don't scrap them !
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Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:13 am |
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Uy23e
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:04 am Posts: 1998
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Here is a video I found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q40VVv7vIhMI've no idea if it's real. I've no idea if the formula changed since. But it appears that the ratio of 10 to 12 is about right. Anyway, apparently "back in the day" (if the video is real) scan chance was displayed. As and u can see, the cap is 97% and it actually "jumps" instead of going to some kind of carefully calculated formula. Anyway, I really dunno if it's real, and I really don't know if the real mechanism have changed(or just the display) so~ don't take it as hard evidence.
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Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:29 am |
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BinaryMan
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:40 pm Posts: 1671
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Oh so you like my video eh ? Yes that was before Dan made the scan chance "vague" which pissed me off to no end, I like exact numbers but it doesn't matter, in general once you hit poor, just stop unless you are wasting a cube. Below is the exact data of that scan run: Code: 5719 scan % planets delta drop rate average
99 345 42 375 1 1.2 22 405 1 0.6 98 346 1 41 376 1 1 22 406 0 0.4 94 347 4 40 377 1 1 22 407 0 0.4 91 348 3 39 378 1 1 21 408 1 0.4 88 349 3 38 379 1 1 21 409 0 0.4 85 350 3 2.8 37 380 1 1 21 410 0 0.2 82 351 3 3.2 37 381 0 0.8 20 411 1 0.4 80 352 2 2.8 36 382 1 0.8 20 412 0 0.4 77 353 3 2.8 35 383 1 0.8 20 413 0 0.2 75 354 2 2.6 34 384 1 0.8 19 414 1 0.4 73 355 2 2.4 33 385 1 0.8 19 415 0 0.4 70 356 3 2.4 33 386 0 0.8 19 416 0 0.2 68 357 2 2.4 32 387 1 0.8 18 417 1 0.4 66 358 2 2.2 31 388 1 0.8 18 418 0 0.4 64 359 2 2.2 31 389 0 0.6 18 419 0 0.2 62 360 2 2.2 30 390 1 0.6 17 420 1 0.4 61 361 1 1.8 29 391 1 0.8 17 421 0 0.4 59 362 2 1.8 29 392 0 0.6 17 422 0 0.2 57 363 2 1.8 28 393 1 0.6 17 423 0 0.2 56 364 1 1.6 28 394 0 0.6 16 424 1 0.4 54 365 2 1.6 27 395 1 0.6 16 425 0 0.2 53 366 1 1.6 27 396 0 0.4 16 426 0 0.2 51 367 2 1.6 26 397 1 0.6 16 427 0 0.2 50 368 1 1.4 26 398 0 0.4 15 428 1 0.4 49 369 1 1.4 25 399 1 0.6 15 429 0 0.2 48 370 1 1.2 25 400 0 0.4 46 371 2 1.4 24 401 1 0.6 45 372 1 1.2 24 402 0 0.4 44 373 1 1.2 23 403 1 0.6 43 374 1 1.2 23 404 0 0.4
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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Uy23e wrote: Here is a video I found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q40VVv7vIhMI've no idea if it's real. I've no idea if the formula changed since. But it appears that the ratio of 10 to 12 is about right. Anyway, apparently "back in the day" (if the video is real) scan chance was displayed. As and u can see, the cap is 97% and it actually "jumps" instead of going to some kind of carefully calculated formula. Anyway, I really dunno if it's real, and I really don't know if the real mechanism have changed(or just the display) so~ don't take it as hard evidence. there's one way to find out.... get yourself at 265 planets and 5719 scan, and record the number of failed scans and cloaked scans between successful scans at each planet count.... till you get to 429 planets
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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5727 scan (i got the closest i could to 5719)
0-356 planets = good 70% 357-377 planets = fair 40% 378-428 planets = poor 15% 429-...? planets = very poor
so there it is folks....
good = 70-100% fair = 40-70% poor = 15-40% very poor = under 15% not sure where the button turns gray (probably 5%?)
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Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:08 am |
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Fabulon
Joined: Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:18 pm Posts: 604
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Nice work Lone Lycan very helpful
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Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:37 am |
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destroyer43
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:01 pm Posts: 2072
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another data point 4745 scan on the dot 450 planets on the dot maxed (wow that was actually pretty easy maxing out all planet) scan to maximum planets supported ratio approx. 10.5:1
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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destroyer43 wrote: another data point 4745 scan on the dot 450 planets on the dot maxed (wow that was actually pretty easy maxing out all planet) scan to maximum planets supported ratio approx. 10.5:1 just to clarify, you're saying at 4745 scan, your button turned gray at 450 planets, right?
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:21 am |
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destroyer43
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:01 pm Posts: 2072
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Lone.Lycan wrote: destroyer43 wrote: another data point 4745 scan on the dot 450 planets on the dot maxed (wow that was actually pretty easy maxing out all planet) scan to maximum planets supported ratio approx. 10.5:1 just to clarify, you're saying at 4745 scan, your button turned gray at 450 planets, right? yes
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