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mojo311
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:47 pm Posts: 2180
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Xx Blitz xX wrote: mojo311 wrote: Xx Blitz xX wrote: Great idea but I've always seen Exotica as a legion planet because it now takes a legion to take it. No one person can take the population down alone unless he has unlimited energy and if and when he did the odds of invading is very low because of the defense that is able to be stacked on it. On top of all of that it takes a legion to take out all of the ships guarding it and that's why I see it as a legion planet with one persons name on it.
hey I did it. lol lol I know and you didn't get the planet ..... You invested so much in it and gained nothing from it personally to show for it.  lol Just saying it can be done.
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:22 pm |
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rooneyhimself
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:29 am Posts: 1286
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Perhaps, a fixed rate for something of your choosing, for the entire legion. Like 5-10% to any one type of production, maybe political favor and exotic matter, or even 1-2 Galaxy Points per week. Sounds gud, right?
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:34 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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rooneyhimself wrote: Perhaps, a fixed rate for something of your choosing, for the entire legion. Like 5-10% to any one type of production, maybe political favor and exotic matter, or even 1-2 Galaxy Points per week. Sounds gud, right? No it doesn't. For the most part, its going to be the powerful high rank legions that will be doing most of the fighting for Exotica. PF and EM have very little value to them, free GP is a super-rare daily reward (that's not going to change, since GP is how Dan makes his money) and any production bonus should be tied to the base due to loyalty and 5-10% for those legions means pretty big numbers.
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:43 pm |
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Sparky
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:00 pm Posts: 2419
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webguydan wrote: Actually, thanks for bringing this back up again. We do have plans make some fun changes to Exotica. If things are received well, we plan to extend this to other planets as well.
For a bonus, Exotica will have a special planet ability that grants its owner 'something nice'. In order to prevent it from being held indefinitely by the same person, it will carry a stacking debuff to attack and defense the longer it is held. Thus, it will get progressively harder to keep it from being invaded. great idea although i wouldn't want this on other planets though because exotica should be unique
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:06 pm |
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mojo311
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:47 pm Posts: 2180
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Sparky wrote: webguydan wrote: Actually, thanks for bringing this back up again. We do have plans make some fun changes to Exotica. If things are received well, we plan to extend this to other planets as well.
For a bonus, Exotica will have a special planet ability that grants its owner 'something nice'. In order to prevent it from being held indefinitely by the same person, it will carry a stacking debuff to attack and defense the longer it is held. Thus, it will get progressively harder to keep it from being invaded. great idea although i wouldn't want this on other planets though because exotica should be unique agreed and I don't think that Dan was talking about this for sure. He said the "something fun" part may be used on other worlds depending on how well it goes on Exotica.
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:07 pm |
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Vekno
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:48 am Posts: 3900
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any chance a permanent effect can be applied to all players who have held or guarded exotica at some point? call it keeper of exotica. it dosnt have to do anything, but it would be cool to have that on your ship as a 'status symbol'.
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:15 pm |
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Xx Blitz xX
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 3:55 pm Posts: 629
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Vekno wrote: any chance a permanent effect can be applied to all players who have held or guarded exotica at some point? call it keeper of exotica. it dosnt have to do anything, but it would be cool to have that on your ship as a 'status symbol'. You're talking about bragging rights only when there could be a lot more added to it as well like an addition to the legions production etc like our legion bases do for a day. I mentioned this before earlier in this thread about Exotica being a possible planet base for a legion and not just for a person in that legion. It takes a legion effort to take with the insane population , defense and attack that can be put on it and a legion effort has always been the only option to take it for a long time now. Since it's a legion effort to take I think it should benefit the legion and not just one person that got the lucky roll in taking it out of a group of 10 people lets just say. If the benefits are going to be a lot better , the people in the planets holders legion will want it too but won't be able to try for it because they're in the same legion. That's going to piss some people off in the planet holders legion. It hasn't in the past because it's been basically a rock with bragging rights all bricked up so nobody could take it and the planet holders legion didn't mind that certain legion member having it because they weren't missing out on anything because it was only a legion " rock " that every legion wanted with little or no production. Did you notice that I said " legion " ? That's because it's the legions perceived planet and not just the planets owner. I don't think it's a good idea to create legion jealousy because every member in that legion will want the production from it now that it will supposedly have increased passive defense and or attack and won't need so many defense shield and attack mines taking up so much space. If only one person can have it then everyone in that persons legion should have a shot at taking it for it's production.
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:14 pm |
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Vekno
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:48 am Posts: 3900
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lol thats why i said held or guarded. and it would be a permanenet effect. one that would last for the entire duration of the game instead of just while the legion holds exotica. hence why it may not provide any bonus at all. while the legion DOES hold exotica, i agree that when the stacking debuff is applied then the legion holding it should recieve a bonus to production. but the bragging rights is just that. bragging rights that shows that youve been in a leigon thats taken exotica.
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:31 pm |
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Xx Blitz xX
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 3:55 pm Posts: 629
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Vekno wrote: lol thats why i said held or guarded. and it would be a permanenet effect. one that would last for the entire duration of the game instead of just while the legion holds exotica. hence why it may not provide any bonus at all. while the legion DOES hold exotica, i agree that when the stacking debuff is applied then the legion holding it should recieve a bonus to production. but the bragging rights is just that. bragging rights that shows that youve been in a leigon thats taken exotica. ok cool ... Yeah it would be cool to have " Exotica holder " or something like that on your ship for all legion members for everyone to see when they lock onto to your ship to attack.
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:38 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:46 pm |
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Uy23e
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:04 am Posts: 1998
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How about something like this Exotica Legacy: For players who have held Exotica before, +2% invasion chance. Exotica Hero: For players who have defended Exotica before, +1% invasion chance. Exotica Supremacy: For player who is currently holding Exotica, +2% invasion chance, -4 hours invasion cooldown. Exotica Ally: For player who is in the legion that is currently holding exotica, +1% invasion chance. Exotica Guardian: For player who is currently guarding Exotica, +1% invasion chance, -2 hours invasion cooldown
Note: Exotica Ally will stack with BOTH supremacy and guardian and Legacy stack with Supremacy, Guardian stacks with Hero, so if you are owning/guarding the planet, you would be getting 5%/3% total respectively.
Ofc, because of wolf pack tactic... increase raw invasion chance might become problematic, so it can be changed to reduce invasion chance when others invade you if that's better~ But really... I think that the bonus should be planet invasion related (invasion chance, invasion defence, various planet stats etc) as opposed to resource related.
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:49 pm |
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Remric
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:52 am Posts: 1742 Location: Bridge of my ship, preparing thousands of my tactical officers for the next battle
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Whatever dan plans for exotica it should. Be something that will benefit the whole legion as well.
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:57 pm |
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KAV
Joined: Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:53 am Posts: 30
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I do think Exotica has been labeled useless by many players and deserves a bonus for having it besides bragging rights. but instead of a base production bonus or anything like that perhaps a ridiculous raise to its stats. That would promote building something besides defense/attack.
I really like the idea of a "title" placed on any owners and guards, but think the owner title should stay but guards lose it if lost.
Noone can be completely un-biased here, But Exotica DOES need to become something worth holding against the world of players, it is indeed a task since it's population heals slowly and guards would always be under pressure if players thought they had a chance to conquer it. (granted that some guards may only be touchable by a low % of the "World's Players".)
I also like the idea of having a short time of invincibility to attack to avoid an immediate conquering by another random legion when your legion did all the work to lower the population before you can tell your legion to guard it. 2hours? 4 perhaps?
last note I swear, Exotica increasing the chances of random planet effects on legion worlds could be fun too even if only 10%.
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:26 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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KAV wrote: I do think Exotica has been labeled useless by many players and deserves a bonus for having it besides bragging rights. but instead of a base production bonus or anything like that perhaps a ridiculous raise to its stats. That would promote building something besides defense/attack.
A ridiculous raise to its stats would only encourage more people to go after it, which means building more defense/attack and population. No gain.
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:31 pm |
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Wolfy Minion
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:16 am Posts: 2737
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Remric wrote: Whatever dan plans for exotica it should. Be something that will benefit the whole legion as well. Nah it should be individual. More incentive to be the one holding the planet not just be in the legion with it. As for the bonus itself, I would think it would be like the base defender bonus. Each day you get +1% to total production to a cap. The debuff could be -2% legion bonus defense/day on the planet. That way after 50 days or so it literally drops to 0 and someone else can take it easily.
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Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:46 pm |
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Nocifer Deathblade
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 5:48 am Posts: 1945
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Thanks Dan! I suggest two bonuses: bigger bonus to owner and smaller bonus to entire legion = Win-Win situation. 
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Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:12 am |
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Jason
Joined: Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:40 pm Posts: 193
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Nocifer Deathblade wrote: Thanks Dan! I suggest two bonuses: bigger bonus to owner and smaller bonus to entire legion = Win-Win situation.  Good idea
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Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:51 pm |
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Romah
Joined: Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:49 pm Posts: 151
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One thing though, is it possible to have exotica give some bonus legion wide? Or better yet a bonus to all who are currently guarding it! Afterall, taking and keeping exotica is definitely a team effort. LOVE the debuff idea too! *edit* didnt see the second page of the post.. 
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Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:31 pm |
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spyder
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1543
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webguydan wrote: Actually, thanks for bringing this back up again. We do have plans make some fun changes to Exotica. If things are received well, we plan to extend this to other planets as well.
For a bonus, Exotica will have a special planet ability that grants its owner 'something nice'. In order to prevent it from being held indefinitely by the same person, it will carry a stacking debuff to attack and defense the longer it is held. Thus, it will get progressively harder to keep it from being invaded. Me likey. Me likey a lot. gives an incentive to actually do the mission chain now. On the subject of "other planets", I had an idea for a few other King of the Hill planets months ago. Can't be bothered finding the post now.
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Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:55 pm |
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Xx Blitz xX
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Nocifer Deathblade wrote: Thanks Dan! I suggest two bonuses: bigger bonus to owner and smaller bonus to entire legion = Win-Win situation.  Good idea ... +1
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