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 Wearing a Calming amp while attacking a base!! 
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Nocifer Deathblade wrote:
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Ooooooooor, you could....you know....may~be just may~be Not employ this tactic, especially how you want challenges and were sooooo happy that the Dominion stepped up to provide a target.

If Dan wants to/or has to leave it the way it already is, you arn't being forced to use the tactic. that's just schoolyard attitude of "They did it, so We'll do it to!"

(Impartial judgement of a low ranked player with lots of caffinee and brains)


No, if Dan confirms that it's legal and won't make any changes then we will very well employ that new tactic that we learned from Dominion to kill more high level bases down the road. We do not ignore any legal mechanics that Dan designed for us cuz we don't believe in it. We use every legal tools available to us. We won't use this tactic if Dan said that it was not intended at all however and give him time to fix it asap hopefully.

"learned from the dominion?"
As this thread confirms, the first usage of this tactic was by a Dysonian....pointing fingers at others is a characteristic that is not usually regarded favorably.

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This is a flaw in the game that certain individuals are apparently abusing, please change this Dan.


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Another sterling example of how it's ok for the #$*# to do something but hold the freak up when someone else does it, stfu, seriously, stfu ;)


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Nocifer Deathblade wrote:
No, if Dan confirms that it's legal and won't make any changes then we will very well employ that new tactic that we learned from Dominion to kill more high level bases down the road. We do not ignore any legal mechanics that Dan designed for us cuz we don't believe in it. We use every legal tools available to us. We won't use this tactic if Dan said that it was not intended at all however and give him time to fix it asap hopefully.


webguydan wrote:
Although it has been like this since base combat was introduced, the September changes to the Truce effects probably should have taken this situation into account.


Honestly Noci, try browsing the whole topic.

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Nocifer Deathblade wrote:
KxG Ryoko wrote:

Ooooooooor, you could....you know....may~be just may~be Not employ this tactic, especially how you want challenges and were sooooo happy that the Dominion stepped up to provide a target.

If Dan wants to/or has to leave it the way it already is, you arn't being forced to use the tactic. that's just schoolyard attitude of "They did it, so We'll do it to!"

(Impartial judgement of a low ranked player with lots of caffinee and brains)


No, if Dan confirms that it's legal and won't make any changes then we will very well employ that new tactic that we learned from Dominion to kill more high level bases down the road. We do not ignore any legal mechanics that Dan designed for us cuz we don't believe in it. We use every legal tools available to us. We won't use this tactic if Dan said that it was not intended at all however and give him time to fix it asap hopefully.


Psssst, here's some help for you
webguydan wrote:
Although it has been like this since base combat was introduced, the September changes to the Truce effects probably should have taken this situation into account.


on the first page of this thread.

You're always saying that you want challenges, and yet the moment something "legal" appears that you can use to make your goals easier, you'll stoop to using it because it's "legal" or "as a demonstration to force Dan to change it" Dan isn't your lapdog that'll change things just because the great Nocifer instructs his legion to employ this method. Come on, go to the GP threat please?? havn't seen that one in ages :twisted:

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Get organized ... schedule and use the same game features.

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Guys, please don't say anything to get this thread removed.

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Base Combat is hard enough without someone attacking you or containment missling you. It is not a flaw in the game design but to encourage base combat.

Dysonians use the same strat against Ni, PA, ROO and never complained because they knew it would make their attack impossible on these bases if players are constantly missled or attacked.

DO YOU SMELL THE #$*#'S FEAR? ROFL

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Lol. Have you guys read the first page that was started about a month ago? :roll:

There were 2 dysonians on my permanent battle page who were wearing the calming amp when Ni's base was attacked. Where was the uproar then?


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Nocifer Deathblade wrote:
Cothordin wrote:
You guys didnt seem to have much of a problem when your guys did it and we made a post about it, dont know why your complaining now. And seeing as weve already called this to Dan's attention and he hasnt done/said anything about it I dont see how we could be banned for it.


No, I wasn't even aware of this serious serious exploitation. No Dysonians told me about this when we attacked 3 level 7 bases. We kept getting CM'ed by Fluffy and few others all the time and we stayed unbuffed for most fights and we were attacked by them.. I never heard of this serious exploitation til I learned about almost all of your base attackers taking advantage of this serious glitch and able to attack Unknown base unscathed while we all are unable to CM, debuff or fight your attackers.. Heck, I never knew this and I got debuffed, attacked, CM over 300 times, etc when I was fighting all 3 bases and I never used any kind of pacification or something like that so are so many dysonians.. IF few of them did use that, they didn't even inform me or Triumvirate cuz if I find out about their exploitation, I would get mad and report to Dan..

For that, I do expect that your legion is enjoying this serious exploitation and use this same exploitation to attack Dysonian's base as next target as soon as possible before Dan fixes this bug.. We will have to be fully prepared for this even though we would not be able to attack any of you. Right now, all online dominions that I find are ALL on truce and they STILL can attack base.. Wow! SERIOUS EXPLOITATION!!

Heck, you can ask Fluffy that he didn't face truced Dysonians when we attacked 3 level 7 bases AT all..


Dude seriously? You inattention to detail with what you "seem to miss" scares me. I hope you dont get people killed in real life. This is just like you not knowing about multi accouters in your legion, or any other exploit you might have the corner market on.

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Hey.. I have to correct you.. My legion doesn't have multi-account.. Orion Bank doesn't exist.. :D

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Doesn't really matter who used it or not, its now widespread and will be abused. The fact remains however that it is an exploit of game mechanics and should be changed ASAP!!!

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LordKrauzen wrote:
This is a flaw in the game that certain individuals are apparently abusing, please change this Dan.


Coming from the guy who always disabled himself so his death count wouldn't rise. :roll:


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So in a nutshell noci is saying that VETTE used a Serious exploit and now should be banned for it ... wait a go noci showing your true colours lol

Over take them in rank they scream strength, Pawn them in strength rankings they scream exploits on bases which they found and used to exploit the base system.

TAKE it like a man and get over yourself !

Don't go around screaming ban hammer everytime something doesnt go your way, most games suggesting someone be banned is a banable offence in itself

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IF Nocifer actually had no idea that half of his legion was using this technique he truly was like that wife who "had no idea her husband was cheating in the next room with the maid" when the maid is walking around naked.

We knew when the Dysonians were planning on attacking the level 7 bases because suddenly they just stopped retaliating for anything including planet thefts...quite telling when you would steal a 15x planet and not even get a disable out of the deal.

And Nocifer did not have a clue? Seriously Nocifer, if you did not know, you are truly naive or a truly terrible liar.

Half of your legion or more was using this and I can tell from a day to day basis that I would see calming and/or pacifying effects on Dysonians combined with base buffs and you know I am the person who loves to CM people randomly. We would ask and sure enough either the NI base or the ROO base was being targetted. Then the next day back to pvp for those same people who had pacifying effects on just for the base. And you did not know? Were you the only person in your legion who did not use this? Probably or you just chose to overlook this.

Whatever the case, you are making a hypocritical stance here because frankly the only reason we used this technique was because we learned it from your legion when we attempted to attack certain people in your own legion, complained about this, and were told by Dan that it was not an exploit.

This was from Dan at the time.

If he changes his mind because you are crying about it now, well that would be because you apperantly have more sway on him then we did. I would find that very troubling for the future of this game if you crying about something was worth more then reasoned arguments 2 months ago from half the server.

But regardless, this is an old argument and if you wish to rehash it now, perhaps you should talk to your legion and tell them to stop abusing this "exploit" or are you going to sit here and tell us that its ok for your legion to abuse this exploit?

The world is dying to know how the dysonians will abuse this exploit and avoid pvp to disable bases because they can not handle pvp while disabling bases.

Maybe remric's ship is just not good enough to handle pvp and bases at the same time.....

That must be the reason right?


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DFRELAT wrote:
Doesn't really matter who used it or not, its now widespread and will be abused. The fact remains however that it is an exploit of game mechanics and should be changed ASAP!!!


When the dysonians used it,

"MasterAlucard wrote:
I love how when a Dysonian does something like that, everyone #$&*@, but I bet yall do the same. Don't be hypocritical, and this has been brought up before. If Dan had wanted to change it, he would have already.

Paulfrick
+1" - A dysonian officer.

Now that it can be used against the dysonians it should be changed ASAP. :roll:


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Hmm funny how its flipped on its head...
If one or two dysonians use a calming amp its the end of the world..
When the entire legion uses it ...its all dysonias fault haha...

How about people drop the crap and get dan to fix it for the better of the game?
You people just trying to ply into the top with dirty tactics since you cant get up any other way...


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DFRELAT wrote:
Doesn't really matter who used it or not, its now widespread and will be abused. The fact remains however that it is an exploit of game mechanics and should be changed ASAP!!!


Says the guy who was pacified awhile back with base buffs. Yes it does not matter huh that you used this now does it? It should be changed now that your fearless leader says it should be.

So I think I understand your reasoning perfectly. You got to abuse it, and disabled every level 7 base that was not inside your little alliance.

You want it changed before your own base is disabled. Seems like your logic to me. Yes, what a stand-up guy you are. Exploit the system for your own benefit, and then scream that it should be fixed so that others can not disable your beloved base.


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Romah wrote:
Hmm funny how its flipped on its head...
If one or two dysonians use a calming amp its the end of the world..
When the entire legion uses it ...its all dysonias fault haha...

How about people drop the crap and get dan to fix it for the better of the game?
You people just trying to ply into the top with dirty tactics since you cant get up any other way...


Sure, Dan can change the game after we disable your base twice, GP's four times, and Unknown's five times. Since you guys have already done that many, it should be fixed for the "tri-exploiters" immediatly.

Sound fair enough for you?


Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:25 am
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Im in dysonia... And I see how things are run here... Exploits are looked down on and are discouraged...
Every time there is an alert, there is talk of missiles, raiding and making mouthers pay..
As it should be... There is never talk of abusing the game in any way...

Personally, If Dysonia abused exploit this way, Id speak out against it.. Even though Im part of it...


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Never fear Dysions noctifier has asked it to be changed i'm sure it will be very soon

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