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 Wearing a Calming amp while attacking a base!! 
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LordKrauzen wrote:
This is a flaw in the game that certain individuals are apparently abusing, please change this Dan.


Talk about the pot calling the kettle black . You guys did the same thing but now that it being done in return you want it changed your a hypocrite .


Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:28 am
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I thoroughly enjoyed reading this thread from top to bottom and have never seen such hypocracy before. Yes both sides had their issues and vetted their concerns, nothing was done, but now when the tables are turned this becomes an exploit? It seems clear that individuals do not want a level playing field. Two particular posts from the same person take the cake:
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POST1 - After dysonians disabled the bases
Re: Wearing a Calming amp while attacking a base!!
If the Dysonians base was disabled like this, You would be all for it. Quit the complaining, It is how it is. I'm sure any of you will use this same thing someday.
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POST2 - After TU base has been disabled and now dysonian base is threatened
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I admit, BOTH SIDES HAVE USED IT!
But this is an actual bad thing for the game, It is a PvP move, So you shouldn't be Amp'd...
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Im in dysonia... And I see how things are run here... Exploits are looked down on and are discouraged...
Every time there is an alert, there is talk of missiles, raiding and making mouthers pay..
As it should be... There is never talk of abusing the game in any way...

Personally, If Dysonia abused exploit this way, Id speak out against it.. Even though Im part of it...



The writings on the first page just click back to see dysions using glitches and exploits.

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Hmm funny how its flipped on its head...
If one or two dysonians use a calming amp its the end of the world..
When the entire legion uses it ...its all dysonias fault haha...

How about people drop the crap and get dan to fix it for the better of the game?
You people just trying to ply into the top with dirty tactics since you cant get up any other way...


Sure, Dan can change the game after we disable your base twice, GP's four times, and Unknown's five times. Since you guys have already done that many, it should be fixed for the "tri-exploiters" immediatly.

Sound fair enough for you?


Hey you are welcome to try :)
It shows that you are openly abusing the well known exploit...
That what cant be achieved through honor is empty.. But Im sure saying so to you is senseless since you have no such sense...


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It really doesn't seem like much of an exploit. Only the top few Legions would be able to find and hit the people attacking their Base anyway, and I don't think Dan intended Base combat to involve ships, considering he never even discusses the idea of letting us target who attacks the Base. Base combat isn't intended to involve ships, you're supposed to defend your Base using your Base, just like everyone else will regardless of whether or not he changes this.


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Romah wrote:
Im in dysonia... And I see how things are run here... Exploits are looked down on and are discouraged...
Every time there is an alert, there is talk of missiles, raiding and making mouthers pay..
As it should be... There is never talk of abusing the game in any way...

Personally, If Dysonia abused exploit this way, Id speak out against it.. Even though Im part of it...


Lol. Have you read the first page or anything else besides what you have written? :roll:


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And Nocifer did not have a clue? Seriously Nocifer, if you did not know, you are truly naive or a truly terrible liar.



Yeah, Looks like that I was naive. It's first time I learned of this today.. When we attacked NI's base, most of us (at least top attackers) got missiled and debuffed non-stop for almost 2 hours and we decided to stay buffless while attacking whole time. I got lot of "groans" from attackers telling me that they kept getting missiled/debuffed all the time so we just kept fighting without buffs or kept re-buffing.. I never ever knew about exploitation. If players knew about that, they would yell in chat to pacify, etc then I would find out right away.. but they never mention anything like that in chat or in legion comm or anything like that. I suspect that few dysonians or other triumvirates might employ that tactic and kept quiet about it while majority of us were clueless and kept getting missiled etc..

I am very busy person in real life as well so I have no time to read every posts or anything like that. I just trusted in officers etc just to inform me of anything important that can impact our legion or GL to save lot of my time. I don't have time to read every comments posted by posters at all.. Nobody ever told me anything related to that.. I guess that it was cuz majority including all officers weren't aware of this. I dunno..


No, I don't call ban on your legion or anything like that cuz it is not a hack method to break in GL to bend any rules. It was within game rules and I just called for a fix. Your legion had done nothing wrong at all and just took advantage of this cheap-tactic to become immune to any debuffs and missiles while attacking UK's base.. Very interesting tactic that I hope it won't repeat by any legions cuz I think it's just cheesy tactic at best. Defending bases should have ability to counterattack by sending out fighters to stop the attackers that makes more sense.. I hope that Dan will make a nice fix that makes base fights more balanced and fair for everybody involved.

By the way, your legion has become very impressive legion already. Great job at that.. It's about time! :) Grats on 2 base kills. We are now last stand with last surviving, undefeated base and I know that your legion won't stop at all and will make sure to attack us as soon as possible before Dan fixes the flaw.. We will try our best to defend and give you fullest fight to break your sweat. ;) I do believe that with this exploitation, your legion could bring our base down..

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I thoroughly enjoyed reading this thread from top to bottom and have never seen such hypocracy before. Yes both sides had their issues and vetted their concerns, nothing was done, but now when the tables are turned this becomes an exploit? It seems clear that individuals do not want a level playing field. Two particular posts from the same person take the cake:
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POST1 - After dysonians disabled the bases
Re: Wearing a Calming amp while attacking a base!!
If the Dysonians base was disabled like this, You would be all for it. Quit the complaining, It is how it is. I'm sure any of you will use this same thing someday.
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POST2 - After TU base has been disabled and now dysonian base is threatened
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Re: Base Attack Exploit
I admit, BOTH SIDES HAVE USED IT!
But this is an actual bad thing for the game, It is a PvP move, So you shouldn't be Amp'd...
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I'm pretty much saying the same thing, Both sides used it at one point...

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Romah wrote:
Hey you are welcome to try :)
It shows that you are openly abusing the well known exploit...
That what cant be achieved through honor is empty.. But Im sure saying so to you is senseless since you have no such sense...


I like all those fixers in your legion. I don't remember seeing that many before but it's ok. Do what you gotta do.

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I'm going to pull a Nocifer.


WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH , WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH, IF YOU CHANGE CALMING AMP I'M NOT GOING TO BUY GP ANYMORE.

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Nocifer Deathblade wrote:
bendover wrote:

And Nocifer did not have a clue? Seriously Nocifer, if you did not know, you are truly naive or a truly terrible liar.



Yeah, Looks like that I was naive. It's first time I learned of this today.. When we attacked NI's base, most of us (at least top attackers) got missiled and debuffed non-stop for almost 2 hours and we decided to stay buffless while attacking whole time. I got lot of "groans" from attackers telling me that they kept getting missiled/debuffed all the time so we just kept fighting without buffs or kept re-buffing.. I never ever knew about exploitation. If players knew about that, they would yell in chat to pacify, etc then I would find out right away.. but they never mention anything like that in chat or in legion comm or anything like that. I suspect that few dysonians or other triumvirates might employ that tactic and kept quiet about it while majority of us were clueless and kept getting missiled etc..

I am very busy person in real life as well so I have no time to read every posts or anything like that. I just trusted in officers etc just to inform me of anything important that can impact our legion or GL to save lot of my time. I don't have time to read every comments posted by posters at all.. Nobody ever told me anything related to that.. I guess that it was cuz majority including all officers weren't aware of this. I dunno..


Read the first Page. An officer knew of it and approved of this tactic. And not all the top hitters were being missled. 2 1000+ dysonians had calming amps on when you attacked Ni's base.


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If that was the truth, then on dysonia only very few used it without public knowledge..
As I said, I never saw any talk of abusing this and learned only when trying to target dominion ships when unknown were under assault...
Then looking in corp chat and going through every player in my alerts I realized this was a problem :)

last time I was attacking a major base I was constantly hit, debuffed and missiled... As were many of my comrades.
You can switch things on its head all you want, but you dont have a legitt point from my perspective...


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I'm going to pull a Nocifer.


WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH , WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH, IF YOU CHANGE CALMING AMP I'M NOT GOING TO BUY GP ANYMORE.


Huh? This flaw design is not hacked or outside of GL 3rd party program or anything like that I am very against. Dominion only used flawed design of Dan's and it's legit so that's fine. Just need to fix that flawed design. It's Dan's fault not Dominion's.. That's big difference..

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Read the first Page. An officer knew of it and approved of this tactic. And not all the top hitters were being missled. 2 1000+ dysonians had calming amps on when you attacked Ni's base.


Thanks for pointing that out.. Gee! No wonder why only 2 attackers we had used this tactic and hide from rest of us.. All of us were not aware of it.

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Omg Noci everytime u talk your spitting lies non stop. Its beyond obvious and your a big time crying baby. You want everything for you and when its flipped you cry,lie and threaten to pull your CC. You need to go back to Farmville asap. It's not a flaw in GL, its allowed and it should be allowed since taking down bases are so extremely hard

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Nocifer Deathblade wrote:
Oakland Blocks wrote:
I'm going to pull a Nocifer.


WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH , WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH, IF YOU CHANGE CALMING AMP I'M NOT GOING TO BUY GP ANYMORE.


Huh? This flaw design is not hacked or outside of GL 3rd party program or anything like that I am very against. Dominion only used flawed design of Dan's and it's legit so that's fine. Just need to fix that flawed design. It's Dan's fault not Dominion's.. That's big difference..


According to the infinite wisdom of a few here its all dysonias fault :)


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It's not a flaw in GL, its allowed and it should be allowed since taking down bases are so extremely hard


Oh yeah. I definitely think it's a flaw design.. PVPers who attack PVP base should not be totally immune from PVP defenders period.. PVP defenders have right to fight back..

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So you gonna scream for it to be changed before your base gets disabled? Or you think it should be changed afterwards, so everything is fair?:P

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So you gonna scream for it to be changed before your base gets disabled? Or you think it should be changed afterwards, so everything is fair?:P


We did scream about ROO's base being bugged to hell (it was too easy to take ROO base down due to too high damage cap) so Dan fixed that before we attacked NI and PA's base and we felt better cuz it was supposed to.. And it helped NI and PA not us.. We screamed for them and they never thanked us for our help.. I still don't know if ROO disable was reverted back to 0 due to game design flaw that Dan put too high damage cap..

We don't use legion-wide exploitation of this immunity (I guess only 2 players so far we found out by Dominion's claim). 2 fighters hardly make a real dent compared to Dominion's entire fleet on immunity against TU's base that made big difference.. They don't scream to get it fixed as we screamed to improve NI and PA's base by removing high damage cap beforehand ASAP.. I am trying to make GL a fair play for everyone involved not just us..

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Nocifer Deathblade wrote:
Very interesting tactic that I hope it won't repeat by any legions cuz I think it's just cheesy tactic at best.


Nocifer Deathblade wrote:
No, if Dan confirms that it's legal and won't make any changes then we will very well employ that new tactic that we learned from Dominion to kill more high level bases down the road. We do not ignore any legal mechanics that Dan designed for us cuz we don't believe in it. We use every legal tools available to us. We won't use this tactic if Dan said that it was not intended at all however and give him time to fix it asap hopefully.


Pretty Please Noci, remember exactly what you said less than 2 hours ago...it makes you look stupid, a liar and down right insane...

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