Let dysions do what they do best troll QQ and call for a ban-hammer. let the thread die and just ignore his ramblings.

Sooooooo what you are saying is that your legion 1. doesn't talk to you so you are aloof to their status, 2. you never look at their ships to help them along since you are God's gift to gaming, 3. they do not talk to you because they are scared of you (I personally don't believe this one), 4. You are not paying attention to whats going on (like 300k hull ), 5. you really are one that lacks attention to detail ( i pray you are not in the catagory), 5. Plausible Deniability is where you like to live (this is my favorite theory).

I was the first to spot the dmg cap problem and point it out to everyone. And it took a little while for everyone to join in. And it didn't help out just NI and ROO. It helped out everyone who had a level 7 base. I might have been able to solo dysonian's base with how the dmg worked before. And no one thanked me.

I hope it won't be repeated unless Dan says that's intended designed cuz he likes how it works then we would have to be forced to use this cheesy tactic to be on equal playing field as everybody else no matter if I hate it.. I'm doing it for legion if Dan deems it as legal, valid, cheesy tactic.. I don't prevent legion from any legal available tactics that shows up in game no matter some are just outright stupid but works..

You can call me liar over and over again. I am 100% liar and never tell truth. I'm 100% hacking, cheating, exploit everything and breaks GL. Go ahead and tell Dan about me. Here is your great opportunity to quote this and send to Dan..

Well we might be able to take your base "with this exploitation" but the question remains can you take ours "without the exploitation" if this is fixed in the end?

This was well known because frankly like I said, we knew when you were planning on doing bases just based on when you guys stopped attacking us. It was obvious to us. It was like you broadcast, lvl 7 base is happening in 24 hours, here it comes, so that was the broadcast for us to run rampant among your people and have a blast stealing planets and just being little pests among the people especially who hid behind this "exploit" as you call it.

I just do not understand it really. I can name names if you want, but what is the point? I think it is retarded that you can not attack other players while attacking a base, it seems to me to be a pvp action, and I would have argued for this change since the start anyway. I seem to recall I did somewhere, but have no clue where, as it was over a month ago.

The point remains that the time to have this changed has long since passed. The time to argue for this change was back when it was first becoming an issue, not when level 7 bases are now being farmed...and right before obviously the first kill of the Dysonian base. That just stinks of "sour grapes" really and for us it really seems to be a ploy to have the game made harder for us when it was easier through this "exploit" as you call it.

Could we still kill your base? Who knows? Could you kill ours? Who knows? But the timing of your wanting the change is VERY suspect judging from the how the progression from GP to unknown to Dysonia is going.

WARNING

Do not argue with an idiot. they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

No idea at all. We might not be able to take down your current base without exploitation. It hasn't been tried yet. We were able to take down your base when your legion was being re-structured with few fixers and we took opportunity to strike when your legion was at vulnerable period.. I prefer to have flawed design to be fixed before we attack any more level 7 bases including yours.. I really do.. cuz it does not make sense at all..

Also, I wasn't online when GP base was under attack and I didn't hear any complaints from defenders about flawed design at all so I assume that your ships weren't immune when attacking GP or they were just clueless..

when Ni's base was being hit by the tri-whatever....almost every dysonian i went after was using a calming amp...at least ten of them. So i started hitting every GP i could find on the BT....ask a bunch of GP, i was attacking at least ten or more of them. It was very hard to find a single dysonian that was hitable. THe dysonian base will burn....there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Dan posted that comment on Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:51 am. I just have to say if Dan suddenly changes the truce effects in the next 3 days because Noci is complaining about it, that won't sit well with me. That thought is very, very, disturbing.

On a side note, am I the only one detecting fear coming off the Dysonians?

Like the man says.

Plamok

Is it me or this topic is not about fixing the flaw but about how much people want to use the exploit on the dysonia base?

I think it's quite humorous that in 4 new pages of this argument, only one post was made by a member of TU (whose base disable prompted the uproar) and it got lost in the commotion. Dfire congratulated The Dominion and friends on good strategic planning and got ignored. I also congratulated them.

Now having said that much.... Let's recall a few quotes from the first couple pages...















You guys remember those?? OH BOO HOO!! THAT SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED!!! But I suppose its ok for you guys to do it en masse. Get over yourselves. You are every bit as bad as, if not WORSE than, what you have PORTRAYED The Dysonians to be for the last year and a half.

I tried to be nice and gracious in defeat, but I've heard enough hypocrisy and condescension from The Dominion tonight. So basically what I'm saying here is this: Take your B.S. and stick it somewhere painful. And while doing so, STFU.

lol.....

let them come its gone cost them a lot of resources to do what we do with little effort.

But as i posted in a earlier post.... this base may not be PVP but its the same as attacking a players planet. Once a planet is engaged you commit to pvp for 24 hr... so should it be the same for a base.

Congrats to any that take down a lv 7 base. But with the right amount of energy any base is able to take down it just requires you to keep refilling, and I proved that the 1st time we took down a legit lv 6 base... It cost a lot of refills but the base was destroyed by only a hand full of my legion with no help from anyone else. After that base though many of the top damagers started to talk and said it was a waste for the rewards offered to have us do it by ourselves.

Its funny how they like to point fingers, but the only people I see using amps are those not wanting to pvp at the time, I do not personally see the legion using this tactic... not the main ones that do 70% of the damage to the bases we encounter.

I have had a amp on lately because I just do not care to bother with the pvp in the game at the moment unless someone asks for help in something I only go on a killing spree when I get disabled.

So should this issue be addressed yes, but do I care either way not at all. I welcome you to come and attack the base be warned it is a mighty beast. But if you wish to try and take it down go for it, but the recourses wasted are going to cripple your legion, or make Dan a wealthy man.

Last thing i give props to your legion for finally doing what no other players has been able to do thus far. You actually made my night cuz I thought of one of my favorite movies (the Postman) when i herd you were attacking all the bases getting ready for ours.
Your legion reminds me of general Bethlehem when he sits on his horse at the end of the movie and says "finally someone is man enough to bring the fight to me." So props to the DOminion.....even if your name is the product of DoO..... long live the minions of DoO!!!!

"Easy. If we don't do it, all other players do it and will use against us. What should we do? Stand by and be victim? Nah, we do the same against them (survival of the fittest). By doing those exploits while letting Dan know all the time actually will PUSH him to work harder to fix the exploit then our job is achieved ASAP.. If we don't do it and all other players don't do it (there will be players who use it in secret) then exploit wouldn't be fixed ASAP. We have to PUSH Dan all the time to fix bugs/exploits etc ASAP by doing it and it works all the time so far."

well seeing I have not actively been reading the forms I am sorry I did not see those and I agree whole heartedly but until it is fixed it is what it is. I do not cry that they can do it I just support that it should not be allowed.... and as of now it is a legit thing to do, and if they are lucky enough to disable the base with this affect in play koodo for them its not cheating its not an exploit. However it is something that should and needs to be addressed.

lol you're a real piece of work bendover! I disable players every single day and especially dumb minions nowadays, no way in hell I can put a halcyon on lol I challenge you and anybody reading this to hit me anytime, any day, I can promise you that I'll never have a halcyon on and I WILL HIT you back no matter who you are! You know where to find me...

"Frail wrote:
If you look at it logically, base battles should be considered pvp.

It requires a person to put up the buffs.

It requires a person to heal the base.

How easily a base goes down is dependent upon the opposing players.

Definition of pvp is player versus player. And that is what a base battle is.



You guys remember those?? OH BOO HOO!! THAT SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED!!! But I suppose its ok for you guys to do it en masse. Get over yourselves. You are every bit as bad as, if not WORSE than, what you have PORTRAYED The Dysonians to be for the last year and a half.

I tried to be nice and gracious in defeat, but I've heard enough hypocrisy and condescension from The Dominion tonight. So basically what I'm saying here is this: Take your B.S. and stick it somewhere painful. And while doing so, STFU."


I still believe base battles should be considered pvp. I haven't written anywhere that I believe otherwise.

But, what I don't want to see is this changed immediately because one group asks for it, while it's been ignored for a month when another group asked for it.

We asked for it to be changed, it wasn't. People have used it against us and would have used it against us on the next attack. Why wouldn't we use it then?

This is my last post on this subject..... Its like I said before. I explained my reasoning which is fairly sound. The time to argue for changing this problem was a month ago when we brought it up.

Dan was aware of this issue a month ago.

He commented on it a month ago.

He did not change it a month ago.

End of story.

Where was the furious anger about Dysonians exploiting from you all then? Where was the indignation and the calling for heads then? Why does it take the blowing up of the unknown base for this to matter?

Why weren't you guys mad about the GP base being blown up with the same technique?

Didn't you realize that most of our heavy hitters had calming amps on for that too? Was it that some of us didn't have calming amps on and that we over-prepared for exotica?

Or do you just not care about GP at all? Seems like you made a half-token effort to help them out anyway...so guess that must have been the reason.

I just don't know sometimes with you guys. But its all ok.

Your base is obviously next. Like I said, I know you are screaming sour grapes right about now, but like I mentioned before, the time was a month ago back when I told you. You should have mentioned the exploit then, but instead you milked this for as long as you could.

I stand by my words.

Aren't they correct and so prophetic?

"Just the dysononian way.

Find a way to "skirt" the rules, take advantage of ways the game is broken and go after level 7 bases before they are fixed, and just basically be little you know whats.."

Isn't this exactly what they did here? They took advantage of an exploit, and after farming bases for a month, they demand that the game get fixed when another legion starts farming them as well......

The Dysonian way indeed. They find a way to skirt the rules. Exploit the game, then cry "cheater" on someone else and feign ignorance that they were doing the same thing. They cry that this other person is an exploiter, a cheater and that the game should be changed or that the person should get banned when their own people did the exact same thing or something similar. They again feign ignorance and otherwise claim to never do anything like that.

When the dust settles, they cheated or exploited and took advantage the entire time and got all the rewards and got "their share of the loot" for as long as they could. But when others started to get some, they demanded the game get changed or they would take their real life money elsewhere.

That is how this game goes on. Is that how this story is going to progress? I don't know. We shall see.

In any regard, I think battling a base should be considered PVP. But I am not going to sit here and have the Dysonians take advantage of this and not do the same myself. What would the point of that be? When attempting to battle the GP base, I was met with CM's and debuffs every 2 mins, and only did roughly 60k or something dmg?

What is the point of battling a base and making it tougher on yourself when the Dysonian legion is going to take the easy road themselves?

That is my question?

Because Dysonia did not abuse this... If you are right on the claim that one or two guys used it, its just that...
Im there everyday and only learn of this untill I targeted dominion members assaulting the base of the unknown and where EVERYONE was abusing it...

Someone here said.. dont argue with an idiot.. I think I should take the advice

This is not about someone using the exploit on dysonia (your bank to break not mine)
Its about defending the honor that my legion mates stand for from hypocrites such as you...
Honestly, even though I did not contribute anything into its creation, I kinda want to see someone taking the base on.

Exploit or not, Come at us bro!