1. The "don't play GL" argument seems unlikely to convince Dan that your side is the side to take; I'm pretty sure he wants people to play. And no, I can't buy Fluxes. I can make them of course, and I Flux Probe my planets weekly, but how much more often do I need to Probe them for the Flux to even matter? Daily? Twice a day? I can't do that.

2. People will still take it, ever heard of Quantum Bio-Vaporizers? Any high level would just use 3 or 4 and then the planet would be easy pickings.

4. That's only if the planet sizes are the same, doesn't help if you max out all planets of the largest size, the planets will all still be worth taking even before you max them out.

5. Until recently I only grabbed planets from long inactive players. You really don't need to take things to succeed, you need to build a system of sustainable growth. Stealing things is just a short term growth measure, not an adequate substitute or necessary basis for strong growth. But, now I take planets from active low levels out of frustration *shrug.*

my argument stands.. i doubt you have a full scan databank of planets that are all X15 or better...if you do, you shouldnt be crying over one here or there.

Of course.

Actually there are planets that can't be taken, since I used a hyper terraformer on my best one to prevent this stuff. Second, how can I defend against a level 67 who cried to their level 900 legion leader? Last, yes it took tons of time to get to this level, to find the planets, then to research more efficient structures to put on them, and it feels like days were just for nothing because of this. Let me put it this way, how would you feel if you built a planet up for months, getting the defense cloak and attack to a point where you believe it's safe and feel at a peace of mind, then have it taken just like that by someone who made it look like an ant after they invaded, and made it completely impossible for any chance of getting it back. I'm not asking them to remove PVP all together, I'm only asking that there be an option to do so, meaning I can get my planets and research and live in peace without having to buy protection for maybe 3 planets. It's not really the ship getting disabled I'm upset about, it's the combination of things constantly happening that makes my gameplay experience much less fun than it could be. And don't just say quit complaining and buy the protection, because I don't feel like spending 100 dollars just because I want 2 more planets to be protected when in reality they all could be. As I said I'm not in this for competition, I'm only in it to do my missions, get my daily reward, do my research, and all the other things I greatly enjoy about this game.

To be absolutely honest, and I mean no offense, I'm amazed there hasn't been a post saying, "Then go play Farmville".

This is the only game I currently play on Facebook, and the only one I think is actually any good, I love it and am just making a friendly suggestion that I hope will be implemented. I don't see how this can hurt anyone, because those who are like me, aren't going to be any better off without it, I have about 7 player kills, mainly revenge kills that I was lucky enough to disable the guy, in most cases before they disabled me back and severely raided me, and got their legion buddies to gang up on me. 7 player kills and 193 times disabled by people.

quit crying about it ffs. why should you get invincible planets, just so you can play in peace? we ALL play the same game, and if you dont like it, F*** OFF.
whaa whaa, i just want my daily rewards and everything else but ONE aspect of the game bothers me.. WHAAA WHAAA. suck it up, and DON'T play it as ' getting the defense cloak and attack to a point where you BELIEVE it's safe and feel at a peace of mind'. DO IT. build more defence, and population and then some more defence and get less production, with your piece of mind...
Personally, nearly anyone could steal my 'nice' planets, and my top 10 are all MR, 28 on down to 3X... and most are arti production, so VERY tempting for people to steal.
Do you know what I'M doing about any potential thefts... I'm looking for more and BETTER planets to buy/trade/have shared with me... and im increasing the 'bad' planets.. of which my lowest are my two storage planets.. which are TOTALLY defence except for the storage.. every other planet in my total of 76(?) is RICH or better in whatever its main production is.

If your not concerned about the PvP aspect, thats fine, but you dont get to cry about it and get invincible planets just to keep you from crying.

I'm not the one swearing and being like that, so I'm pretty sure they'll look at my side of the argument better. Lawyers don't win cases by cussing out the other side.

And to the person who talked about putting time and effort into this stuff and it just disappearing like that, thank you, I just sold 250 XTS-9 for 240 cloning pods to finish off the weekly mission, I don't plan on using those artifacts on something that can be lost.

complain about my asterix all ya like... going to cry about it too?
read the points I wrote about and respond to them

Just another forum troll I'm going to ignore.

You can't have the names of other games in your post , dan can get fined for it , its in any game/forum TOS.

OK but after you pick U cant change . and a non PVP;ER cant take planets .

Sorry but if you want to hide like a kid and never have any thing bad happen to you then you cant do bad things to others.. and to keep ppl from being a pvper to take a planet to badge ppl you have to make it so they cant change back.


Now for legion base to lest up date EVERY THING for 30% production loss we can remove your base for ever no more having it locked. But you legion can NEVER atk a base.


Can u tell im joking ?

I think I made this point before, you scan planet and burn credits pimping it out, we scan it and burn credits and energy taking it, thus the cycle continues on and on until you can afford a flux every 7 seconds. PvP has it's place just like the mission, this game is one of the few out there that literally prevents someone from being really good at everything. If I see someone who has no atk and def on I will hit them, that's what I built my ship to do, but I like having people with lots of energy around the legion because it helps build the base. When people who have ships like yours get harassed, ships like mine are there to back them up. Next time someone won't stop and you ask for help, that PvPer will be your best friend, don't try to take away what we enjoy about the game, it's just not cool.

There exist a game where you can lose years of hard work and progress in under a week....
There exist a game where you will never lose anything

There is a reason why I play GL and neither of the above two types~ There are seriously many many other options if you don't like PvP


And there are actully ways to abuse non-PvP options in such a way that you can still do everything except getting badge items and extra limited structures. (in more definte terms, making your planet invincible but you can "invade" others)
Ofc, the abuse contains actions that are against ToS, but we know that ToS isn't all powerful.

quit crying about it. Why should you get invincible planets, just so you can play in peace? we ALL play the same game, and if you dont like it go play FARM******
whaa whaa, i just want my daily rewards and everything else but ONE aspect of the game bothers me.. WHAAA WHAAA. suck it up, and DON'T play it as ' getting the defense cloak and attack to a point where you BELIEVE it's safe and feel at a peace of mind'. DO IT. build more defence, and population and then some more defence and get less production, with your piece of mind...
Personally, nearly anyone could steal my 'nice' planets, and my top 10 are all MR, 28 on down to 3X... and most are arti production, so VERY tempting for people to steal.
Do you know what I'M doing about any potential thefts... I'm looking for more and BETTER planets to buy/trade/have shared with me... and im increasing the 'bad' planets.. of which my lowest are my two storage planets.. which are TOTALLY defence except for the storage.. every other planet in my total of 76(?) is RICH or better in whatever its main production is.

If your not concerned about the PvP aspect, thats fine, but you dont get to cry about it and get invincible planets just to keep you from crying.


^^^^edited to remove the offensive asteriks. now you can read it and respond to it like a grown up

It's funny, I'm not asking for invincible planets... as the other person pointed out clearly, The option would be permanent, and you can't perform actions against other people either, AND IT'S AN OPTION, I'm not asking to change the entire game, that obviously wouldn't work. Please, don't post if you don't even read and understand the topic, or aren't going to post with proper manners, it's not hurting anyone, it's not making anyone mad or anything else.

And who said I'm crying? I'm arguing this in a mature manner, without cussing people out, insulting them, or anything else that makes me not even bother to read your posts anymore, thank you, come back when you're old enough to respond properly.

The thing is, by a TOTAL exclusion from PvP, you force planets into the equation. If your ship is exluded and someone tries to take your planet, immune it and guard. Boom! Invincible planet. You also would not be allowed to TAKE planets because we would not be able to attack you back for it because you are excluded and just by guarding said planet you make it un-reclaimable. So.... A certain percentage of unoccupied planets would have to be set aside for the exclusive use of Non's. Also ALL enemy and legionmate planets would have to be auto-purged and all your planets would have to be auto-fluxed. This would put the nonPvPer at a distinct advantage in planet scanning because you A-have very few planets in your database allowing for much more efficient scan runs and B-excludes ALL enemy owned planets.

You also force base combat into the mix. If you are ineligible for getting Red badges for scanning, then by rights you should be ineligible for battling bases altogether. Because reds are needed to scan and attack YOUR base, and therefore affects the NonPvPer's payout, your legion's base should then be excluded from even being scanned. If YOUR base can't be scanned, then your legion shouldn't be able to scan others for combat.

That may seem a bit extreme, but really... How far do you take "totally excluded"? There's plenty of anti-PvP systems already in place. Xecti race bonus, Gemini cannons, Trinity-cores, cloak, CAmps and Halcyons.

My thinking was that the non-pvpers can't attack or be attacked, the planets they own won't show up on anyone's scan to reduce frustration, basically you can't scan a planet then realize the owner is non-pvp, legion battles exclude them from lists with targets, and of course they can't attack the other people. In a way it would be almost like not being online buy still playing, like doing career mode in call of duty, but not online multi-player. Hard to explain things to people sometimes, hopefully you can understand what I mean when I made the example of playing something like call of duty offline without the competition of other players.

It's either that or severely change what rank players can do to other ranks, like rank 900s farming off of 200s and so on.

If you're getting slammed by someone out of badge range you did something to deserve it, like make suggestions like this.