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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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I think it's time for an overhaul for base crates. Level 4 crates drop 20ctp/40ctp/Triphase. Level 5 drop Triphase/Adumbrate/Parser-Crystal. Level 6+ drops Adumbrate/Parser-Crystal/Abysmal Rift Trap. As we all should know by now, the Rare5/Uncommon6 drop of a Continuum Parser actually scraps for less than the Common4 reward and after you have 4 for your ship they are only good for scrapping or paperweights. This first of all defies all logic. Lower chance on a base that takes considerably more energy and resources to disable is actually worth LESS than what pretty much everyone gets from a level 4. Hell, we could farm 4s with a little energy and use some to farm some Tech Collectors and be well ahead of the curve.
Next... Dan, we're bored with level 6 crates. And at this point there's no reason to go through the effort of battling a level 7 for the same EXACT stuff we can get from a level 6. I know, I know... Not everyone is as gung ho as our battle group. The fact remains that most of our planets have triphase cutters and adumbrate stations and a lot of us are getting an ever-increasing stockpile of them in our cargo. We've pretty much stopped locking level 5 bases over the last few days because we are just plain sick of getting triphase crates. Adumbrates aren't much better. It used to be we actually had to fight among ourselves to even get in the badge drop range. Now... We can't even fill the 50 slots on a level 6 base with 4 legions. We rarely manage it anymore on a level 5 that defends itself and stays up for a while. A lot of us just don't care anymore. PvP is bland. NPCs are boring, endlessly clicking on the same handful of targets in the hopes for a Queen or Troop Carrier. Missions are blech because a lot of us have most of the worthwhile missions done. All we have left is Base Battles, and even that is losing our interest. Sorry, but this GTC isn't going to give us anything to DO. It's not going to keep the interest of a lot of experienced players that are already losing interest. You need to give us something BIG to do... In the interim, how about a few new 5 minute to code treats to keep us going while you work on the next big thing? Something that makes the effort to disable a level 6 or 7 base worth our time and energy. The original intent of the base crates was to encourage legions to go after stronger (higher level) bases. We don't have that incentive anymore. If it weren't for the relatively rare Enumeration Crystal, we'd be better off spending our energy farming level 4s as individual legions rather that utilizing the Battle Pacts that enable friendly legions to do co-operative game tasks. This is something I feel needs addressed very soon, before more groups start farming the high level bases and run into the same problem.
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:21 am |
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itsSoulPLayAgain
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:30 am Posts: 4230
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YES!
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Billik
Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:40 am Posts: 2812 Location: Just go north, and keep on going.
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I've already run out of places for Tri phases to go, having said there's going to be quite a few more planets to be added. Either way, more e-crystals, higher CTP, that doesn't have a bad ring to it
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:41 am |
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wredz
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:59 pm Posts: 311
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i agree.. new items or better chances for a crystal nice post
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:46 am |
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Wolfy Minion
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:16 am Posts: 2737
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I have been in TU for about a little over 5 months, in the last 2 I have been loyal for about 2 weeks and still I have all my mining planets filled with triphases, I have demolished a few now and placed someone on lesser planets in hopes they get stolen and I still have 3 upgrades in my cargo. I am fail raids fairly often, since i rarely have energy to hit bases when they come up. I am not as overwhelmed with stations but still I am starting to look at research planets instead of artifact ones.
parsers need to be either a silver badge item or have their scrap value doubled or tripled to make them at least better than a level 4 raid.
I know level 6/7/8 bases are all basically the same in terms of strength and HP, but at least give the %s a tweak so if we do kill a 7 there is a higher chance for a crystal. A new reward would be much better but at the very least make it so going after a stronger base is more rewarding.
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:51 am |
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gloval
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:38 pm Posts: 206 Location: Pennsylvania
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I completely agree here , The base battles have become rather stagnant due to the low percentages on items worth trying for.+1 for the recommendation of higher percentages or a new reward being issued.Great idea .
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:01 am |
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Chris24markey
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:58 pm Posts: 1146
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Well a solution to this could be a Base Coins.... do not care you come up with the amount you get per base..... say 1 for common, 2 for uncommon, and 3 for rare.... with them increasing the higher the base lv.
Then add all items to the battle market using this new currency. That way you can spend your reward as you see fit.
I understand the current rare items will have to cost a lot, but it far better than always getting a tri-phase upgrade.
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:07 am |
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boomsly
Joined: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:41 am Posts: 211
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Chris24markey wrote: Well a solution to this could be a Base Coins.... do not care you come up with the amount you get per base..... say 1 for common, 2 for uncommon, and 3 for rare.... with them increasing the higher the base lv.
Then add all items to the battle market using this new currency. That way you can spend your reward as you see fit.
I understand the current rare items will have to cost a lot, but it far better than always getting a tri-phase upgrade. being able to pick your reward sounds quite good, i like it!
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:11 am |
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Scarecrow619
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:22 am Posts: 242
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Agreed. I'm rank 465 and i've got all my parsers. I think i've had 7 overall now and the scrap value is far too low. I'd prefer the stations to them
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:09 am |
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Tree7304
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:05 am Posts: 2794
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What about letting you send them? I'm sure there are plenty out there who would buy them for a fair amount.
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:41 am |
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Bluecifer
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:53 pm Posts: 3756 Location: Aboard my floating fortress of ineptitude
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This is becoming a pretty big problem. I have 1 Parser installed, and 2 more in my cargo. And I rarly break the Top 10 (not for la lack of trying  ). I will say, though, the 8 Enumeration Crystals I've gotten thus far have been pretty sweet.
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:25 am |
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LittleNicky
Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:02 am Posts: 128
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Darth Flagitious wrote: I think it's time for an overhaul for base crates. Level 4 crates drop 20ctp/40ctp/Triphase. Level 5 drop Triphase/Adumbrate/Parser-Crystal. Level 6+ drops Adumbrate/Parser-Crystal/Abysmal Rift Trap. As we all should know by now, the Rare5/Uncommon6 drop of a Continuum Parser actually scraps for less than the Common4 reward and after you have 4 for your ship they are only good for scrapping or paperweights. This first of all defies all logic. Lower chance on a base that takes considerably more energy and resources to disable is actually worth LESS than what pretty much everyone gets from a level 4. Hell, we could farm 4s with a little energy and use some to farm some Tech Collectors and be well ahead of the curve.
Next... Dan, we're bored with level 6 crates. And at this point there's no reason to go through the effort of battling a level 7 for the same EXACT stuff we can get from a level 6. I know, I know... Not everyone is as gung ho as our battle group. The fact remains that most of our planets have triphase cutters and adumbrate stations and a lot of us are getting an ever-increasing stockpile of them in our cargo. We've pretty much stopped locking level 5 bases over the last few days because we are just plain sick of getting triphase crates. Adumbrates aren't much better. It used to be we actually had to fight among ourselves to even get in the badge drop range. Now... We can't even fill the 50 slots on a level 6 base with 4 legions. We rarely manage it anymore on a level 5 that defends itself and stays up for a while. A lot of us just don't care anymore. PvP is bland. NPCs are boring, endlessly clicking on the same handful of targets in the hopes for a Queen or Troop Carrier. Missions are blech because a lot of us have most of the worthwhile missions done. All we have left is Base Battles, and even that is losing our interest. Sorry, but this GTC isn't going to give us anything to DO. It's not going to keep the interest of a lot of experienced players that are already losing interest. You need to give us something BIG to do... In the interim, how about a few new 5 minute to code treats to keep us going while you work on the next big thing? Something that makes the effort to disable a level 6 or 7 base worth our time and energy. The original intent of the base crates was to encourage legions to go after stronger (higher level) bases. We don't have that incentive anymore. If it weren't for the relatively rare Enumeration Crystal, we'd be better off spending our energy farming level 4s as individual legions rather that utilizing the Battle Pacts that enable friendly legions to do co-operative game tasks. This is something I feel needs addressed very soon, before more groups start farming the high level bases and run into the same problem. +1.
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Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:19 pm |
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LPenguin
Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:59 am Posts: 307
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pretty good idea, though most of us are not in a top battle pact and don't have all those nice things, but none the less its a good idea
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Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:33 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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LPenguin wrote: pretty good idea, though most of us are not in a top battle pact and don't have all those nice things, but none the less its a good idea That's why I made the qualifying statement that we're more gungho than most battle alliances. I hate to use the term "trendsetters" but generally our group runs into the issues first and see where improvements need to be made. In my opinion there would be more alliances forming and going after stronger bases if the incentive was there. Which right now, it isn't. From what I can see, there's only a few groups that hit level 6+ with any kind of regularity. The Triumvirate, Ni/CoT, Cosa/H1, Infinty, and whoever the Badgers battle with. There's a lot of other great legions out there that given sufficient incentive could and would get it on.
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Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:53 pm |
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varunjitsingh146
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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nicely said darth and i also like chris's idea of base coins.
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Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:49 pm |
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itsSoulPLayAgain
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:30 am Posts: 4230
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Chris24markey wrote: Well a solution to this could be a Base Coins.... do not care you come up with the amount you get per base..... say 1 for common, 2 for uncommon, and 3 for rare.... with them increasing the higher the base lv.
Then add all items to the battle market using this new currency. That way you can spend your reward as you see fit.
I understand the current rare items will have to cost a lot, but it far better than always getting a tri-phase upgrade. I think it needs a bit of tweeking , but this is the best idea i have seen in a long time. we should do something like this . PST , Dan .. u read ^^^ one yet . its good.
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Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:52 am |
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failname
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:13 am Posts: 1695
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indeed , getting way to manny a dumb rate stations to
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Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:17 pm |
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Fralo
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:42 am Posts: 584 Location: On my Starship
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I agree. I haven't gotten anything but Adumbrates, and Tri-phases. No parsers, and no crystals. And my legion almost always locks level 5s, so I think we should something better than this. Or maybe just a higher chance to get something better.
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Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:12 pm |
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Narej
Joined: Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:42 pm Posts: 63
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Yes please. The larger-sized base crates and their drops should have their ctp multiplied several times. That, or all base crates should have a common drop of CTPs. (Example: common/level 5 base: 50 CTP. Common/level 6 base: 85 CTP. common/level 7 base: 120 CTP) That should alleviate some of the problems, and make it easier for players in higher level legions to get CTPs.
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Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:49 pm |
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KJReed
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:08 am Posts: 3142
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Narej wrote: Yes please. The larger-sized base crates and their drops should have their ctp multiplied several times. That, or all base crates should have a common drop of CTPs. (Example: common/level 5 base: 50 CTP. Common/level 6 base: 85 CTP. common/level 7 base: 120 CTP) That should alleviate some of the problems, and make it easier for players in higher level legions to get CTPs. Ummmmmm..... How about no? ctp really isn't all that hard to com Fralo wrote: I agree. I haven't gotten anything but Adumbrates, and Tri-phases. No parsers, and no crystals. And my legion almost always locks level 5s, so I think we should something better than this. Or maybe just a higher chance to get something better. e by. I don't want another drop decreasing my chances of a crystal. Lock a 6 plus then
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