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 footballs and bane ally ranking issues. DAN RESPOND PLEASE 
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OK guys I've acquired the solution to this.

Ban Icarium because he's a dumbass and call it a day.

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you can see your own alerts if purged, under their regular tabs, you just need to remember which one you alerted, but after the alert expires it goes away if you haven't taken it.

awwww feared, what's the matter, didn't like me stealing your planet and enhancing it to a 15x arti in front of you.

im sorry that your tiny brain can't wrap itself around the complex issues that are being addressed here.

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EOTS does no condone the use of any known or unknown exploits any exploits are brought to Dan attention many of us are working hard to rank our banes through the correct methods Dan has been informed of this glitch and we will know shortly if he intends to do anything about it.

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whether dan intends to fix it or not is really irrelevant, it speaks to a players morals on whether or not they play the game as intended. footballs aren't intended and dan has said he doesn't like them, but the fix isn't exactly coming in a timely fashion.
the other cheat i was told about is even easier and no one else would even be aware you were doing it. so that leaves a huge area of exploitation that can be utilized in secret.

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whether dan intends to fix it or not is really irrelevant, it speaks to a players morals on whether or not they play the game as intended. footballs aren't intended and dan has said he doesn't like them, but the fix isn't exactly coming in a timely fashion.
the other cheat i was told about is even easier and no one else would even be aware you were doing it. so that leaves a huge area of exploitation that can be utilized in secret.



Each player has there own set of morals some think it's really bad to do anything more than badge from the Bt some people zero people out randomly there is no right or wrong if Dan chooses to leave the exploits in the game after being notified about them then players will use them there is no way around that.

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icarium81 wrote:
whether dan intends to fix it or not is really irrelevant, it speaks to a players morals on whether or not they play the game as intended. footballs aren't intended and dan has said he doesn't like them, but the fix isn't exactly coming in a timely fashion.
the other cheat i was told about is even easier and no one else would even be aware you were doing it. so that leaves a huge area of exploitation that can be utilized in secret.



Each player has there own set of morals some think it's really bad to do anything more than badge from the Bt some people zero people out randomly there is no right or wrong if Dan chooses to leave the exploits in the game after being notified about them then players will use them there is no way around that.


You do realize that people could be zeroed before badges? And ppl are only BEING zeroed because of the leaderboard? Zeroing players is not a exploit it never has been if anything its limited because we have actions now and a roof TM limit.

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icarium81 wrote:
whether dan intends to fix it or not is really irrelevant, it speaks to a players morals on whether or not they play the game as intended. footballs aren't intended and dan has said he doesn't like them, but the fix isn't exactly coming in a timely fashion.
the other cheat i was told about is even easier and no one else would even be aware you were doing it. so that leaves a huge area of exploitation that can be utilized in secret.



Each player has there own set of morals some think it's really bad to do anything more than badge from the Bt some people zero people out randomly there is no right or wrong if Dan chooses to leave the exploits in the game after being notified about them then players will use them there is no way around that.


You do realize that people could be zeroed before badges? And ppl are only BEING zeroed because of the leaderboard? Zeroing players is not a exploit it never has been if anything its limited because we have actions now and a roof TM limit.



I wasn't talking about zeroing being an exploit i was talking about morals some people just zero people for fun where as some legions you can get kicked out from if you did that to another player without reason, Exotica was the hot topic on this for a while then we had footballs now we have this + footballs

Dan is aware of these and so far has not fixed them personally i'll be ranking my bane through FFA planets amongst the legion but if others choose to use the systems dan has left in place that's there choice it does not affect you in the slightest.

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whether dan intends to fix it or not is really irrelevant, it speaks to a players morals on whether or not they play the game as intended. footballs aren't intended and dan has said he doesn't like them, but the fix isn't exactly coming in a timely fashion.
the other cheat i was told about is even easier and no one else would even be aware you were doing it. so that leaves a huge area of exploitation that can be utilized in secret.


I'm really tired of hearing about 'players morals', especially since you're not one to talk.

People will always find a way around whatever if they choose. the only 'real' solution is to ban anyone on a first offensible basis and only then will the game be 'fair'.

(pleasepleaseplease note the sarcasm....)

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hawke your comment is irrelevant so ill disregard it.

these exploits affect me and anyone who loses a planet to someone becuase of that extra 10% invasion chance.

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hawke your comment is irrelevant so ill disregard it.

these exploits affect me and anyone who loses a planet to someone becuase of that extra 10% invasion chance.


Yea i misunderstood fireblade my bad...but i still got a honorable Mention whoo whoo.

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whether dan intends to fix it or not is really irrelevant, it speaks to a players morals on whether or not they play the game as intended. footballs aren't intended and dan has said he doesn't like them, but the fix isn't exactly coming in a timely fashion.
the other cheat i was told about is even easier and no one else would even be aware you were doing it. so that leaves a huge area of exploitation that can be utilized in secret.


Man, what do you want from Dan? He already gave a response and already said he's gonna fix it. With player morals, you're an atrocious advocate for the football abuse. Dan is completely aware of all the issues and berating him to fix it doesn't remedy anything, just shut your mouth and let Dan work.

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Dan can't change it as too many players have already benefited from using football planets. You might as well embrace it.


time nor number of people matter little when it comes to fixing issues.

Dan introduced a fix to a long standing issue with exotica, and lots of people benefited from that.


No.

This is different, the rewards that players collect from footballs cannot be "upgraded". Exotica, the rewards that the players have accumulated from abandoning and colonizing exotica have been rendered obsolete.

As with Green Badges (Locus/Upgrades, Decimators) , Bane Ranking and Medals/Stats, it is not possible to penalize all the players who've utilized footballs. Players who've used footballs may have gotten all their decimators and tonnes of locus/locus upgrades ( Those that think Locus are crap, others don't share the same opinion ) Football scenario isn't as simple as coming up with Locus 2.0 or Decimators 2.0.

This thing with footballs is the same crap about farming Laughable Players with crap, crap ships - You call for justice because we hardly need to put any effort in ranking our Banes and collecting Greens using Footballs, Chopping up Laughables a bit above half your rank with junk ships for red badges is still the same thing and almost everyone has done just that.


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Why not just share and invade planets that will actually give you some resources you can use. There are tons of them out there in the galaxy that have no defense or attack.

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Why not just share and invade planets that will actually give you some resources you can use. There are tons of them out there in the galaxy that have no defense or attack.

wow, fist common sense comment I have read on this thread, thank you Maude.

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Why not just share and invade planets that will actually give you some resources you can use. There are tons of them out there in the galaxy that have no defense or attack.


I can't find any. My last run of 300 planets came up with only 2 terra planets, both which are small 1x bricked to 20k def by some rank 200s (which were the best arti planets i found in the run).


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I dont understand the logic that some of you seem to be exhibiting.

Are some of you really suggesting that because some players have ill-gotten-gains that cannot be taken back that the mechnisim that allowed those gains should not be fixed?

That just sounds like childish jealousy at not being able to take advantage of it yourself yet.

Who care if 10 or 100 people have leveled their familiar in an unsavory fashion. Its a problem that needs addressing, period.

Dan has stated he is working on the football issue. In the meantime you have two choices, take advantage while it lasts or dont.
Hopefully he can address the familiar issues before too many people take advantage of that, like the footballs have been.

*It just occurred to me, that Dan implemented the familiar KNOWING full well about footballs and the exploitation. He did it anyways.
How much of the leveling mechanism of the Familiar was made to be exploited via footballs to entice people to buy them?
The prospect of easily leveling an ally while gaining greens could and would make the GP expense more tolerable to many. Since the other options are devoting nrg for daily's or raiding high lvl bases. The familiar that costs GP in this regard is the "poor-mans ally" as it allows easy leveling while not hindering ship growth.


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I dont understand the logic that some of you seem to be exhibiting.

Are some of you really suggesting that because some players have ill-gotten-gains that cannot be taken back that the mechnisim that allowed those gains should not be fixed?

That just sounds like childish jealousy at not being able to take advantage of it yourself yet.

Who care if 10 or 100 people have leveled their familiar in an unsavory fashion. Its a problem that needs addressing, period.

Dan has stated he is working on the football issue. In the meantime you have two choices, take advantage while it lasts or dont.
Hopefully he can address the familiar issues before too many people take advantage of that, like the footballs have been.

*It just occurred to me, that Dan implemented the familiar KNOWING full well about footballs and the exploitation. He did it anyways.
How much of the leveling mechanism of the Familiar was made to be exploited via footballs to entice people to buy them?
The prospect of easily leveling an ally while gaining greens could and would make the GP expense more tolerable to many. Since the other options are devoting nrg for daily's or raiding high lvl bases. The familiar that costs GP in this regard is the "poor-mans ally" as it allows easy leveling while not hindering ship growth.


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Chill people, just play and let play.


I'm adding that to my sig

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Dan you NEED to get this under control, sooner rather then later.




I just love how certain players just feel the NEED to tell Dan what to do.

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OK guys I've acquired the solution to this.

Ban Icarium because he's a dumbass and call it a day.



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Dan will fix it soon. stop complaining. those using footballs for their allys
will be forced to conquer planets like everyone else.


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