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Barrier Nexuses? Pfft. I personally have 57 BM70 Shuttles. I still can't actually install more than three of them, but if one of them breaks, I'M PREPARED

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Annabell wrote:
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The thing that makes me LOL the most is how y'all think we are gaining this MASSIVE boost because of multiple base disables. We hit level 6+ bases three times a day every day. Been doing that for several weeks now. Before that, we hit exclusively level 5+ three times a day every day for MONTHS. You think we wouldn't have 2 Barrier Nexus artifacts on every planet even if we got single silvers every base? Oh ok, so that just leaves us more silvers to buy Exo-Clamps for our bases... Wait... Our bases still get disabled... Yep, massive boost we're getting.

Wow, can't begin to tell you how disappointed I am to see the guy who started the war on exploitation, now turn a blind eye to it, and thereby condone it, when it favors him and his legion.

This isn't about Silver Badge rewards, it's about the wider implications of getting 3x, 4x, 5x, 6x, 7x, even 8x drops from NPCs, everything from Ephemerar, Bane Stalkers to Dark Command Nexuses, so please tell us all again how getting up to eight times greater chances at Dark Smugglers Caches per alert is not a massive boost.


Follow his history on the forums Anna, and it should come as no surprise. He is first to throw a fit about anything and everything that exploits a situation he can't control. But the second it works in his favor, he cries butthurt about everybody else who claims it needs fixing because they can't do it as effectively as he and his group can.

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we just dropped another 6, 2 minutes 53 seconds by my count

1. Empire Of The Sun 48134
The Dysonians 47289
Empire Of The Sun 46209
The Dysonians 33919
The Dysonians 33820
Empire Of The Sun 24555
Empire Of The Sun 24252
The Unknown 22667
The Dysonians 22211
10. Empire Of The Sun 21551
Empire Of The Sun 21391
Empire Of The Sun 20891
The Unknown 20456
Empire Of The Sun 14322
Empire Of The Sun 12513
Empire Of The Sun 12140
Empire Of The Sun 11052
The Unknown 11030
Empire Of The Sun 10713
20. The Dysonians 10557
The Dysonians 9705
Empire Of The Sun 9676
Empire Of The Sun 9424
Empire Of The Sun 8806
Empire Of The Sun 7636
26. Icarium81 The Unknown 7210
The Unknown 4495
Empire Of The Sun 4281
Empire Of The Sun 4231
30. The Unknown 3393
Empire Of The Sun 2821
The Dysonians 2705
The Unknown 2356
The Unknown 1480
35. The Unknown 1195


notice how NOBODY tagged the base.. no low rankers hitting for one hit and letting everyone else do the work..

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Annabell wrote:
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The thing that makes me LOL the most is how y'all think we are gaining this MASSIVE boost because of multiple base disables. We hit level 6+ bases three times a day every day. Been doing that for several weeks now. Before that, we hit exclusively level 5+ three times a day every day for MONTHS. You think we wouldn't have 2 Barrier Nexus artifacts on every planet even if we got single silvers every base? Oh ok, so that just leaves us more silvers to buy Exo-Clamps for our bases... Wait... Our bases still get disabled... Yep, massive boost we're getting.

Wow, can't begin to tell you how disappointed I am to see the guy who started the war on exploitation, now turn a blind eye to it, and thereby condone it, when it favors him and his legion.

This isn't about Silver Badge rewards, it's about the wider implications of getting 3x, 4x, 5x, 6x, 7x, even 8x drops from NPCs, everything from Ephemerar, Bane Stalkers to Dark Command Nexuses, so please tell us all again how getting up to eight times greater chances at Dark Smugglers Caches per alert is not a massive boost.


And this after our private discussion of this topic...

How about we change this thread title to "We have an issue with Empire of the Sun cheating even though we have no actual proof or evidence, but we're going to push the entire Triumvirate in front of the bus for something else entirely just because they can't control what may or may not be happening in another legion."

Edit: Please also note that the base Icky is referring to was Show Me The Money/Storms Torment SA. And we didn't get dubs, tribs, quoz or googleplexaples or anything.

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Darth Flagitious wrote:
And this after our private discussion of this topic...

It's easy, if you don't want to appear to be a hypocrite on the subject, then all you have to do is say you don't condone exploitation of the lag or any other sort of glitch regardless of the upside or reward garnered, that you want to know if there really are those cheating to cause such issues, and that you wish to see them punished for it, if that is in fact what's happening.

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Well I said that several times...and BH myth still wants to make it personal and drag this out....

One thing we can't seem to learn, no matter what, people won't ever be happy

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As far as saying we condone the doubles, we don't but unless Dan is going to buy bigger faster servers it's something that is most likely going to keep happening which is why we would rather he focus on others things like adding some new content, extra silvers we don't care about more clamps 50,000 clamps buys us maybe an extra minute if were being hit hard so we really don't gain anything there.

The npc's are a little more of an issue but it's mostly on the bigger npc's yes sometimes people get an extra shot at a cache every now and again and everyone else get's an extra 6-12 ctp not exactly game breaking if dan can fix this by all means we'd welcome it but most of us would rather not have him spending 6 months fixing this because with no new content it's unlikely we'll even be here.

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Barrier Nexuses? Pfft. I personally have 57 BM70 Shuttles. I still can't actually install more than three of them, but if one of them breaks, I'M PREPARED

BM70? Where can I find this upgrade? I only find BM50s.

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Annabell wrote:
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And this after our private discussion of this topic...

It's easy, if you don't want to appear to be a hypocrite on the subject, then all you have to do is say you don't condone exploitation of the lag or any other sort of glitch regardless of the upside or reward garnered, that you want to know if there really are those cheating to cause such issues, and that you wish to see them punished for it, if that is in fact what's happening.


In other words say that everyone who ever did something that could even remotely be seen as a glitch that Dan CAN'T fix should be banned? You ever get doubles on any bases or NPCs Anna? EVER? Even once? Because if you did, you exploited a known issue called lag. If you ever attack a shared NPC or base, you yourself are intentionally exploiting that potential glitch because YOU KNOW it is there and YOU KNOW it can happen at ANY time. Therefore you should be punished as well. Then by turning around and going after other people for it is the very definition of hypocrisy.

Would it be wonderful if Dan could fix the lag problem? Absolutely. Not just for the sake of this witch hunt, but also for live PvP among other things. Nobody is doing anything that isn't possible for EVERY SINGLE PLAYER TO DO. Take a 10 person boss NPC and have a race between your crewmembers to see how fast they can get a lock. You're going to get multis doing that. Is that punishable?

Your issue is apparently now EotS getting multis off bosses and elites. Ok, PROOF? Do you have any? Or are you just going by what someone says in a forum post or an FB chat? Show me PROOF of wrongdoing and I will be right beside anyone else in trying to get punishment meted out.

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Darth Flagitious wrote:
In other words say that everyone who ever did something that could even remotely be seen as a glitch that Dan CAN'T fix should be banned? You ever get doubles on any bases or NPCs Anna? EVER? Even once? Because if you did, you exploited a known issue called lag. If you ever attack a shared NPC or base, you yourself are intentionally exploiting that potential glitch because YOU KNOW it is there and YOU KNOW it can happen at ANY time. Therefore you should be punished as well. Then by turning around and going after other people for it is the very definition of hypocrisy.

exploit (verb): to take advantage of, especially unethically or unjustly for one's own ends

Nope, absolutely never done that, and I have removed players from my legion for suggesting that we coordinate to replicate the glitch. Experiencing a glitch is not the same as knowingly exploiting it, and the question is, "Are people intentionally exploiting it?", and I'd hope we could all agree that if they are, then it would be best to have it looked into so that we can return to honest gameplay.

My mistake is posing that question in a thread that y'all insist on flaming in and pointing fingers, instead of just seeking to get to the bottom of the situation.

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Boom! Xzien, get us a "Stop Exploitation" banner, with Triumvirate logos - stat!

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Annabell wrote:
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In other words say that everyone who ever did something that could even remotely be seen as a glitch that Dan CAN'T fix should be banned? You ever get doubles on any bases or NPCs Anna? EVER? Even once? Because if you did, you exploited a known issue called lag. If you ever attack a shared NPC or base, you yourself are intentionally exploiting that potential glitch because YOU KNOW it is there and YOU KNOW it can happen at ANY time. Therefore you should be punished as well. Then by turning around and going after other people for it is the very definition of hypocrisy.

exploit (verb): to take advantage of, especially unethically or unjustly for one's own ends

Nope, absolutely never done that, and I have removed players from my legion for suggesting that we coordinate to replicate the glitch. Experiencing a glitch is not the same as knowingly exploiting it, and the question is, "Are people intentionally exploiting it?", and I'd hope we could all agree that if they are, then it would be best to have it looked into so that we can return to honest gameplay.

My mistake is posing that question in a thread that y'all insist on flaming in and pointing fingers, instead of just seeking to get to the bottom of the situation.


So in this reasoning we should tell everyone to stop killing so fast? Slow down, take our time time and hope we dont accidently get doubles? :roll: It's not the players fault if the game has a slight defect. Why should we have to change our play to avoid it? When an NPC or base comes up we kill it immediately and move on. That's not going to change.

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I dont thinks its exploitation as more of ex;

Finding a 20 instead of a dollar in your pocket. or walking and finding 50 bucks on the ground. Not your fault its there but your not just gunna leave it are ya.

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It's not the players fault if the game has a slight defect....


No, but it is the player's responsibility to report it, or at least point it out instead of exploiting it.

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DariousTheDark wrote:
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It's not the players fault if the game has a slight defect....


No, but it is the player's responsibility to report it, or at least point it out instead of exploiting it.

Which happened, many many times...and now only a few people are being called cheaters for it happening....

Think about what is being said. Has anyone ever attacked a guard on Exotica? Should you make sure u wait 5 seconds between clicks, or go fast and hard? Same with bases, same with NPC's, same with missions - with everything.

Personally I have been arti spammed and mass attacked before, and was double-disabled myself. Did the attackers get banned? No. I guess I should start a new thread and call all those guys cheaters and cry my poor eyes out... :roll:

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DariousTheDark wrote:
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It's not the players fault if the game has a slight defect....


No, but it is the player's responsibility to report it, or at least point it out instead of exploiting it.


As mentioned before this has been known about for a long, long time. It's up to the developers to do something about it. I've only been in EoTS for about 2 weeks but I have to say it is more active than any other legion I have ever seen. At least half the legion is usually on at any time of the day and these are all 30k+ strength ships. 90% of the time elites are down before you get the notification. Is it any wonder this defect is bound to occur more often?

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Then There is ONLY ! SOLUTION!


Simple, prevent a legion from having more then one player above rank 1,000. Should spread the power out evenly. :lol:

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So in this reasoning we should tell everyone to stop killing so fast? Slow down, take our time time and hope we dont accidently get doubles? :roll: It's not the players fault if the game has a slight defect. Why should we have to change our play to avoid it? When an NPC or base comes up we kill it immediately and move on. That's not going to change.

You know damn well that's not what I'm saying. If some of y'all are knowingly and willfully exploiting a known glitch, then everyone who is not should be vocal and draw attention to the issue, so that it can be fixed.

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Annabell wrote:
DarthRavadge wrote:
So in this reasoning we should tell everyone to stop killing so fast? Slow down, take our time time and hope we dont accidently get doubles? :roll: It's not the players fault if the game has a slight defect. Why should we have to change our play to avoid it? When an NPC or base comes up we kill it immediately and move on. That's not going to change.

You know damn well that's not what I'm saying. If some of y'all are knowingly and willfully exploiting a known glitch, then everyone who is not should be vocal and draw attention to the issue, so that it can be fixed.


Holy crap, you mean like the Exotica drama?!?

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Annabell wrote:
DarthRavadge wrote:
So in this reasoning we should tell everyone to stop killing so fast? Slow down, take our time time and hope we dont accidently get doubles? :roll: It's not the players fault if the game has a slight defect. Why should we have to change our play to avoid it? When an NPC or base comes up we kill it immediately and move on. That's not going to change.

You know damn well that's not what I'm saying. If some of y'all are knowingly and willfully exploiting a known glitch, then everyone who is not should be vocal and draw attention to the issue, so that it can be fixed.


So you are saying that you have NEVER EVER clicked the attack button on a base until it's disabled? Because if you have, then you are just as guilty of "exploiting a known glitch" as everyone you're throwing mud at, because you know it can happen.

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