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Research Upgrade (Alien Data Disks and Daily Rewards)
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ODragon
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:16 am Posts: 3824
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Once you hit around level 100, these two things are not really worth it. 700 RP is less than 1/8th of what I make in an hour. The daily bonus I got today was barely over half-an-hour worth of research.
I would like to see the daily bonus be an actual bonus, maybe 4x hourly or something that will mean something. When I get credits, they are usually worth at least 2-3 hours worth of mineral production.
I would also like to see the following: Small Alien Data Disk (700 RP) = 700 AP Medium Alien Data Disk (2000 RP) = 2000 AP Large Alien Data Disk (7000 RP) = 7000 AP Mega Alien Data Disk (12000 RP) = 12000 AP
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:13 pm |
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zophah
Joined: Sat May 22, 2010 6:22 pm Posts: 1760 Location: On the bridge of the Vikiera
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ODragon wrote: Once you hit around level 100, these two things are not really worth it. 700 RP is less than 1/8th of what I make in an hour. The daily bonus I got today was barely over half-an-hour worth of research.
I would like to see the daily bonus be an actual bonus, maybe 4x hourly or something that will mean something. When I get credits, they are usually worth at least 2-3 hours worth of mineral production.
I would also like to see the following: Small Alien Data Disk (700 RP) = 700 AP Medium Alien Data Disk (2000 RP) = 2000 AP Large Alien Data Disk (7000 RP) = 7000 AP Mega Alien Data Disk (12000 RP) = 12000 AP First idea: good. Second idea: already mentioned.
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:25 pm |
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ODragon
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:16 am Posts: 3824
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I know, just reinforcing since it fit the topic well. I think it's been mentioned before then also.
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:26 pm |
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BinaryMan
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:40 pm Posts: 1671
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Agree that scaling makes sense here. The daily reward credits seem to be scaled alright so far. The RP is also scaled, just not more than 1 hour of research for many people. I think a deliberate 4 hours of production on something (or artifact like smuggler's cache that does the same, only smaller), one of the three resource types, is a good scaled bonus too. The disks, we dont need more drop types for them, we just need it to be like an hour of research.
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:08 pm |
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Joppsta
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:52 am Posts: 313
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I think the issue here is balance more than anything.. although yes, i hate getting 50 reseach for disabling a siege cannon also...
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:27 pm |
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BinaryMan
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:40 pm Posts: 1671
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Yeah... it needs to drop a weapon or *something*
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:34 pm |
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Vekno
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:48 am Posts: 3900
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well, seige cannons are the RSL equivanent to drannik ballistae. i think it should drop a mega gun.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:28 am |
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BinaryMan
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:40 pm Posts: 1671
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Yes, exactly my thoughts, some weapon of its own type.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:46 am |
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RogueReign
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:02 am Posts: 598 Location: Mars
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ODragon wrote: Once you hit around level 100, these two things are not really worth it. 700 RP is less than 1/8th of what I make in an hour. The daily bonus I got today was barely over half-an-hour worth of research.
I would like to see the daily bonus be an actual bonus, maybe 4x hourly or something that will mean something. When I get credits, they are usually worth at least 2-3 hours worth of mineral production.
I would also like to see the following: Small Alien Data Disk (700 RP) = 700 AP Medium Alien Data Disk (2000 RP) = 2000 AP Large Alien Data Disk (7000 RP) = 7000 AP Mega Alien Data Disk (12000 RP) = 12000 AP I like it. But, i think 4 different types is too much, maybe have 2 or 3 types, and the RP bonus to AP cost is not what I would accept, I think something more like 1.5x or 2x more AP for the amount of RP is better. 1 to 1 is just too cheap.
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Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:56 pm |
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zophah
Joined: Sat May 22, 2010 6:22 pm Posts: 1760 Location: On the bridge of the Vikiera
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RogueReign wrote: ODragon wrote: Once you hit around level 100, these two things are not really worth it. 700 RP is less than 1/8th of what I make in an hour. The daily bonus I got today was barely over half-an-hour worth of research.
I would like to see the daily bonus be an actual bonus, maybe 4x hourly or something that will mean something. When I get credits, they are usually worth at least 2-3 hours worth of mineral production.
I would also like to see the following: Small Alien Data Disk (700 RP) = 700 AP Medium Alien Data Disk (2000 RP) = 2000 AP Large Alien Data Disk (7000 RP) = 7000 AP Mega Alien Data Disk (12000 RP) = 12000 AP I like it. But, i think 4 different types is too much, maybe have 2 or 3 types, and the RP bonus to AP cost is not what I would accept, I think something more like 1.5x or 2x more AP for the amount of RP is better. 1 to 1 is just too cheap. How about this?
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Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:13 pm |
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ODragon
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:16 am Posts: 3824
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RogueReign wrote: 1 to 1 is just too cheap. Well, it's 1 to 1 now and I'm guessing Dan did that for a reason. I respected that when I made my numbers. If he'd like to up the ratio, I am fine with it.
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Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:43 pm |
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RogueReign
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:02 am Posts: 598 Location: Mars
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zophah wrote: RogueReign wrote: ODragon wrote: Once you hit around level 100, these two things are not really worth it. 700 RP is less than 1/8th of what I make in an hour. The daily bonus I got today was barely over half-an-hour worth of research.
I would like to see the daily bonus be an actual bonus, maybe 4x hourly or something that will mean something. When I get credits, they are usually worth at least 2-3 hours worth of mineral production.
I would also like to see the following: Small Alien Data Disk (700 RP) = 700 AP Medium Alien Data Disk (2000 RP) = 2000 AP Large Alien Data Disk (7000 RP) = 7000 AP Mega Alien Data Disk (12000 RP) = 12000 AP I like it. But, i think 4 different types is too much, maybe have 2 or 3 types, and the RP bonus to AP cost is not what I would accept, I think something more like 1.5x or 2x more AP for the amount of RP is better. 1 to 1 is just too cheap. How about this? link zophah wrote: WMatt007 wrote: I think Dan should create a higher-level artifact to the Alien Data Disc, such as an Alien Databank, that would eith provide scaled RPs or a fixed, higher amount of RPs, like 3500 RP or so. Good idea, and I'd say keep it a fixed amount, but with a ratio and more rare. And add a third tier version too. For example, The Advanced Alien Databank costs 3,000 AP and gives 3,500 RP. The Lost Alien Archives costs 7,000 AP and gives 9,000 RP. i was thinking the other way, making it more expensive. but scaled sounds good, like - in lower ranks a smaller amount of RP is more expensive in AP, and in higher ranks the opposite, or make it more expensive overall on a sliding scale for size of alien data and/or Rank level.
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Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:02 am |
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Matress_of_evil
Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:45 am Posts: 778
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I'd definitely like to see some scaling. I almost groan whenever I see Alien Data Disks now. The reward isn't worth it at my level. I'd prefer to see scaling to having different-sized data disks.
As for the RSL Siege Cannon, since it's supposed to be a planetary assault weapons, what if it dropped a weapon module that gave 0 attack, but lots of invasion attack? We don't have any pure invasion weapons yet to my knowledge.
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