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just a quick question for you guys on what the go is with people who multiraid and hack one person for the express reason to climb the ranking table i got hit by one guy 15 times in a row and have had guildies have this happen too.
It seems to me that this is an exploitive tactic and does it make the leader boards just a list off the names of the biggest axxholes in the game or are there genuine people on those lists?I hack and raid myself and accept any single hit and dont care at all about it but looking at a list of the ((highest no off raids /hacks etc)) and not knowing if it was legitimitly single kills brings all people on that klist in to disrepute as well as the legion it belongs to


Sat May 25, 2013 1:44 am
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The most common answer for this is hit him back. One of the worse things you can do is cry about multi raiding/hacking on the forums

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THIS is what you choose for your 2d post on the forum ?? egadz.

well, at least you follow thru.
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12 mins ago From: Bandita
i am submitting a tickit to the game developers on the legality off this tactic and see what they say

23 mins ago From: Bandita
so to get up the points you attack one person 15 times im gonna go on the forum and ask dan what he thinks of an exploit like that

29 mins ago From: Bandita
wtf is your problem multi raiding ****bag


don't really care for your language btw. whose fault is it that you had 15 actions to take ? and didn't the dev only recently DOUBLE the amount of actions before time manipulators could no longer be used ? well, good luck with that.

here's the wiki page on raiding: http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/Raiding

and see my .sig for the current raids leaderboard standings topic.

and @Unrep: lol, with the new battle market items expected soon ... winter is coming indeed !

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Sat May 25, 2013 2:06 am
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Well, at least he had the good sense to put the topic under Issues and Support. Thus, making it more of a technical gameplay question he is asking of the developer and not just whining in the Galaxy Pub. I can respect that.

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not so much crying just asking a question of the community like i said i was asking and i stand by my post that this is an azzhole move


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not so much crying just asking a question of the community like i said i was asking and i stand by my post that this is an azzhole move

It's how the game works, don't like it? quit.

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hmm so the hack and raid nos cant be built up by attacking differant people only way to make it work is to hit the same people till their counters are down.So what you are saying is that if i can hack or raid a person i should until i cant?You can play it that way i aint and i hope that every player who attacks you feels the way you do.As to the quit playing the game post grow up i asked a question and you jump up and down like a child i play this game cos its fun and aint gonna stop :ugeek:


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hmm so the hack and raid nos cant be built up by attacking differant people only way to make it work is to hit the same people till their counters are down.So what you are saying is that if i can hack or raid a person i should until i cant?You can play it that way i aint and i hope that every player who attacks you feels the way you do.As to the quit playing the game post grow up i asked a question and you jump up and down like a child i play this game cos its fun and aint gonna stop :ugeek:


I just took a step down to your level so you could understand me.

You didn't ask a question. you insulted and whined.

(offtopic, have you ever heard of ENTER ?)

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I'm one of those who has been known to multi-hack/raid. In addition to the fact that it part of the game:

1) Anyone who has a halc set gets multi-hacked. zero tolerance on this one.
2) There are medals that require 8,000 hacks. People are trying to get those medals.
3) Cry about it.

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yes, you can build up raids and hacks off of multiple people ... that can help you avoid retaliation. but it is slow and very dependant on your bt.

however, once you have built up your ship properly, retaliation is no longer a concern ... in fact, i have goaded other players into alerting me simply to get more targets to pvp. of course, that was when i had an ample supply of TMs ...

multi.raiding (moreso than multi.hacking) is EFFICIENT, especially if you do the ice.fishing technique. me, i don't mind collecting a red badge now and then as well, now that i am scanning for bases, but once i find someone disabled, if they have plenty of actions, i will eat my fill. it could be a long time before the next roadkill falls out of the asteroid belt ....

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So the battle market items will require the medals to buy i imagine so as i said in my original post i dont care about getting disabled and hit once so the new items dont affect me getting multi hit.
Like i said originally what do the numbers off hacks and raids mean,shouldnt it be a count off the number off badges that are a mark off pride i dont really see the skill involved in farming one person once disabled every game i have played online has farming and i always avoid it i see a guy with 4 fully upgraded dom 3 cannons im impressed end of story!


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Don't whine about it, man up and kick his face in! D:<

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do you ever play a fps and complain cause someone kills you more then once?

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do you ever play a fps and complain cause someone kills you more then once?

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:mrgreen:

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:mrgreen:

Glad to see you two are being helpful. ;)

It is a part of the game, but it's a part I don't like. I remember when such actions could start a war, but now I see people aren't even alerted for doing such things. People are entitled to do as they wish. It is a strategy game, and it's the strategy they choose, just like some people choose to build small ships or how some people choose to slow rank.
It's not the nicest strategy, but at least it is a strategy.

It can be frustrating, although I think few understand this. Personally, I don't care if it happens when I sleep because I cap in 4-6 hours anyway.

Now, if you'd like to see it happen less often, you'll need lots of cloak and scan, or build a really good ship that nobody dare mess with (take TimeManipulator, Kinshara, Negron, Mento, RigorMortis as examples). It'll take lots of time an effort, but it'll be worth it. ;)

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i think the change is for the better if you multy raid me you will get alerted but i doubt i will take it personally i do the same. you don't lose much getting multy raided and gain a bit

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So the battle market items will require the medals to buy i imagine so as i said in my original post i dont care about getting disabled and hit once so the new items dont affect me getting multi hit.
Like i said originally what do the numbers off hacks and raids mean,shouldnt it be a count off the number off badges that are a mark off pride i dont really see the skill involved in farming one person once disabled every game i have played online has farming and i always avoid it i see a guy with 4 fully upgraded dom 3 cannons im impressed end of story!


Im surprised no one has said this yet but the way its set up now is almost down right wimpy compared to the ORIGINAL pvp, and badges are fairly new btw, but you could be alerted to a legion(who was comprised on your FB friends and not limited to a number of occupants) for 7 days and you could be raided hacked and disabled with no limit. Now we have actions which give us a set number of deaths hacks and raids a day, the only way to increase them is to hack raid and disable ships aswell, and they get dropped when someone hack raids and disables you. now you can disable ships till you run out off energy and the only time delay you have is the time if takes you to disable that ship, were as raiding and hacking have a 15 minute barrier off a success and a 5 min barrier off on a fail. The way players make up for this time delay is with time manipulators, even then there is a limit do how many we can use, this roof colloqualism is called bunny locked due to a former player hacking the game which caused the roof in the first place other wise people would be trying to get their 8k hacks and 5k raids in one day.

However, due to the fact that alot of the pro-pvper leaders have been banned for some reason or another it gave way to a more passive-halc driven population, as opposed to the more Brutal pvpers that most of the veterans are used too, that spend more time "whining" and claiming that multi hacks and raids are cheating. More then likely because they were taught by the passive players who didnt like the pvp aspect of the game that taking more then one of each is considering farming or cheating and after years of the more passive play style getting spread due constantely changing landscape, and persons needing more of a reason to pvp...hence badges were a method to make pvp worth more but instead backfired and made the passives become even more passive and even complain about taking more then 1 badge in a span of a few days.


Which why the war aspect of the game is so direly needed more so then fix rank 2.2k npcs(there are ways you can still make planets after that rank its just some are too lazy imo.) But unfortunately the game has shifted from that lovely aggressive pvp war game that most of us grew up in (in game that is) to a more passive "no dont touch me...ow..hey quit...i said stop!!!...STOP IT!!!!" and it may take years to convert players into a pvp mind set, because for more they dont see the fun of blowing up ships they just see the resource management side, even in my legion which when i created had a mind set on making it a pure pvp legion but not everyone just wants to play that way. Just think the more Brazen you are with your attacks you might get alerted alot more yes you might lose a planet yes but where is the fun in thinking that all your planets are safe? life a little and hack well dont hack...hacking is the cheap side of PVP RAIDING is where its at. Go raid one ship to zero a few times...trust me youll love it.

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