38.125 rank 160

Nice! With your production, I wouldn't worry too much about slow ranking.... I think I was around 72.00 @rank 500, now I m rank 640 (83.00)

plus doing some auto ranking and my Anubix, AI Assault Drone completed at Rank: 100

actually slow ranking with purpose though, have a couple of rank 500 goals I am trying to accomplish, and beyond that game wide goals as well, but I'll update all of that information on my ship log when the big 5 oh oh comes.

I'm at 73.17 ss/r
Rank 437 (I'm kronyn race)

Only 12.25 ss/d though
2609 decks.

From Dicky's equation, I get:

29.1973039216, Rank 316, Cap of 500

i can give cautious approval to the proposed defense strength formula.

the charts on the left use the current formula, dividing by cap and then by rank; the charts on the right use the proposed new defense strength formula. the charts on the top use a logarithmic scale for the defense strength, while those on the bottom use a linear scale. data is from the pilots used in the ship log showdown.




analysis:

1. SSB strength at low ranks is severely diminished
2. SSB/MSB strength at mid/high ranks is greatly increased
3. overall upward trend with rank on both log and linear charts
4. ship build size is less distinguishable
5. ic*'s shipbuild moves higher in defensive strength than elerian's larger deck build

Great idea, I think not4use's revised calculation is a definite improvement, and senatorhung's graphs seem to reflect that it is more useful using the revised calculation.
The improvement is perfectly illustrated for me by the greater spread across all ranks and ship builds and the dramatic change to Golgotha's positioning - the fact he was scoring so low on the old calculation in comparison to low rank SSBs always seemed a bit strange to me.

You guys and your formulas. Just use the ones Dan uses and it will be a lot simpler.

cap = deck/2 or (rank+19)/2
Min shot = (hull+shield)/cap
Damage per shot = cap*tanh(attack*[0.6 to 1/0.6]/(5*defense))


average shot at a given attack= (hull+shield)/cap*tanh(attack*[0.6 to 1/0.6]/(5*defense))
Pick a suitable attack, maybe what is considered "average" for their rank and then solve. More shots required the stronger the ship.

Dan math makes my head hurt, wolfy.

another option would be to get away from combining attack and defense into a single ship strength stat.

instead:

POWER = attack / rank

TOUGHNESS = (defense + hull + shield) / (damage cap + rank)

here are charts, with power/toughness on the left, and not4use's suggestion on the right:



EDIT1: thus, instead of talking about how 'strong' a ship is, a more powerful ship would be one which has high attack power, while a tough ship is one that will require a lot of effort and energy to disable.

EDIT2: it would be neat if folks who get the exotica medal in the future could post their power used to acquire Exotica, and their toughness used to keep it for 8 hours ... call it the Golgotha comparison test

I like that split. It seems to be very much in line with how your ship's stats are divided in the game.

The best part is that wolfy will love that this means MOAARRR formulas. He's always going on about how we need more formulas...oh, wait...maybe that was someone...MOAR, Wolfy MOARRRR!!!




Dicky Minion ~ 1350

1st . - 59.85
2nd - 46.91

( no race or profession bonus )


( unbuffed but including race & profession bonus, 2nd formula equals 66.22 )
~ pity it's not a very accurate reflection if I include these

Heehee... i didn't want ya to beat my stats too much at 500 500 comparing lol!!

Agree with not4use, I like the power vs toughness formulas slightly more since they separate attack and defense

At rank 350...

power = 28.5 (Konqul race bonus)
toughness = 63.6 (Konqul/fixer race/profession bonus)

power = 49.9555
toughness = 35.667

Dicky Minion - 1350


Power - 31.28

Toughness - 38.05


(no race or profession bonuses included)

Power: 24.55

Toughness: 19.71

Rank 318

REMOVED

Rank 236
Toughness 41.37
Power 16.95

No race or proffesion bonuses

Power: 11054 / 440 = 25.1
Toughness: (13823 + 20125 + 7222) / (1600 + 440) = 20.2

Konqul Excavator*, not Fixer.