Harassment.... should it have a place?
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Montecristo
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:32 am Posts: 130
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Dude......some of you guys are taking this GAME way to seriously. Sticks and stones mates....
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Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:16 pm |
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Joseph4
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Montecristo wrote: Dude......some of you guys are taking this GAME way to seriously. Sticks and stones mates.... For crying out loud, the last post before yours was a week ago! STAHP! 
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Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:37 pm |
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Montecristo
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:32 am Posts: 130
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[quote="Wolfy Minion"]I am a bit amazed this is still going on, but I will give my 2 cents.
First no the shouldn't be a place for harassment. But what is considered harassment? Zeroing someone? Hitting them daily for badges? In my opinion, harassment is the continual offensive actions against someone for extended period of time (more than a week min.) even after they have stopped hitting you back. I also think someone spamming you for hours on end to make sure you can't play is also harassment. I don't mean a CM and a few d bombs to guard exotica, but hours of it just to so you can't play. Basically what I got from CRA and what I am doing to CRA members back.
Second I have experienced Negron's actions. He literally goes non-stop for hours, every 5-15 minutes continuously no breaks, no NPCs or bases (no battles) except hitting you. It is crazy... CM+emps and he is so bloody strong and fast it is hard to even defend yourself. Lag or look away for a few seconds and you're dead. Granted I deserved it, I was zeroing his hacks for the elite medal for a few days when the UST provided a boost and I could. He was relentless, no cheating, but completely shut down the game in every other aspect. I had a similar express with Zakawas (then QCC and MLP) recently and returned the favor to their legionmates (see above).
Lol really Neel? You make these claims? Yet you seemingly found a way to CM me (unprovoked) and dropped over hundreds of debuffs and CMs on me over a 35 minute period. So yeah, you are full of hypocracy and crap. Don't talk on these forums. Be a little mouse and keep thinking you are preventing me from NPCing (lol, I get a kick out of activated the shockpulse charger, making you think I am), only to drain you of artis and energy. You easily could have donated 500 energy to your base rather than waste your time with me. Or maybe help repair it after it got destroyed today. Lol, I enjoyed stealing all your actions for the day Neel. Kind of pathetic when someone 400 levels above you uses 17 debuffs to get a disable!
Neel Altorish - Hall of Shame Member
-Montecristo
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Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:27 am |
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Hawkeblade
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:29 pm Posts: 3022
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ok ok...Who is this bully that Kirk is talking bout? i beats them up, ive held negron at bay for about 10 minutes(ran out of shield restorers  ) and ive fought against and gotten my arse kicked and returned a little kicking back to all of the top legions who i have respect for all of em. I dont like harassment to much, and i think that 3 months is too much. I know what blitz did was a great tool move but im not surprised since he is from Grovetucky and id fight on negrons side against blitz in a war 10 out of 10 but at some point you can just walk away knowing youve won. because continuing to beat a dead horse after you shot it in the face for donkey kicking your kid for 3 months is more then enough to call it victory in my book even if he does deserve it.
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Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:08 am |
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William Murphy
Joined: Sun May 23, 2010 11:02 am Posts: 191 Location: Shalimar, Florida
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Outcast wrote: Some times, i will zero a ship out for planet theft. Other times, i will zero them for the garbage they post on the comms. Sometimes, they will get zeroed just because i don't like the first letter of their IGN that particular day. I do not PvP much, but when I do, i know my ship is wide open to attack, be it from ships that I hit or ships that find me on the battletab. That's how the game works, and there are more passive approaches to avoid getting hit hard if that isn't your thing. Just like I know I am going to wake up every morning to being disabled, hacked, and raided by the same exact ship. If I don't like it, the game mechanics allow me to stop PvPing and planet stealing for a bit and use a calming amp and halcyon trap.
Also, this idea that badging is somehow different and more 'honorable' than multi-hacking and raiding needs to stop. They are both aggressive actions against other ships. Just because some players deem one to be improper etiquette does not make it so. Shooting someone down on the battle tab is fine. Zeroing them on the battletab when they have made no attacks against you or your legion is the equivalent of shooting someone after they have parachuted out of their airplane. You should save the zeroing for those that deserve it (planet thefts, multiple arts usage, harrassment of legion mates ect) It's called PVP etiquette.
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Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:18 pm |
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Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:46 pm |
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ICBLF
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:52 pm Posts: 1663 Location: where the dead ships dwell
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William Murphy wrote: It's called PVP etiquette. Or arbitrary guidelines that, even if followed, still result in people acting like you're harassing them. Look, it's an arbitrary subjective judgement call to pretend that aggressive is not a single kill/raid/hack off the BT once a week or day or what have you, but taking more than one raid or hack is aggressive. And a lot of players don't agree that a single badge (yeah, just one badge, not even two different colors or anything) is okay. If you get a sign on from the entire player base that "X badges spaced over Y time" is okay, then a discussion about etiquette versus taking too many actions would have a general subjective consensus to work from, but without that, you're simply stating what you don't like and do like. Attempted analogies about shooting a pilot that is bailing out don't make your opinion any clearer either. Unless you want to establish how that first shot (raid #1) isn't really shooting the pilot but raids #2+ are?
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Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:54 pm |
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Hawkeblade
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:29 pm Posts: 3022
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William Murphy wrote: Outcast wrote: Some times, i will zero a ship out for planet theft. Other times, i will zero them for the garbage they post on the comms. Sometimes, they will get zeroed just because i don't like the first letter of their IGN that particular day. I do not PvP much, but when I do, i know my ship is wide open to attack, be it from ships that I hit or ships that find me on the battletab. That's how the game works, and there are more passive approaches to avoid getting hit hard if that isn't your thing. Just like I know I am going to wake up every morning to being disabled, hacked, and raided by the same exact ship. If I don't like it, the game mechanics allow me to stop PvPing and planet stealing for a bit and use a calming amp and halcyon trap.
Also, this idea that badging is somehow different and more 'honorable' than multi-hacking and raiding needs to stop. They are both aggressive actions against other ships. Just because some players deem one to be improper etiquette does not make it so. Shooting someone down on the battle tab is fine. Zeroing them on the battletab when they have made no attacks against you or your legion is the equivalent of shooting someone after they have parachuted out of their airplane. You should save the zeroing for those that deserve it (planet thefts, multiple arts usage, harrassment of legion mates ect) It's called PVP etiquette. you know ive heard like 15 different kinds of PVP etiquette from players claiming that a large number of players and or legions follow this etiquette. My question is WHERE are all these players? why dont they all have a public outrage? My pvp etiquette that i follow and encourage is all for all if the game allows it use it. Where the fun in gather dust on those 3k D-bombs and 2k EMPs ive scrapped 4k CMs in the past year. Whats the point of having them if these so-called etiquettes say they arnt to be used unless these certain conditions are met.
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Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:36 am |
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Chakotay
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 7:30 pm Posts: 1529
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someone said my name was in here alot... LOL I had come back to check..
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Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:51 am |
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Xx Blitz xX
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 3:55 pm Posts: 629
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pokerman123 wrote: and again some of these players you just mentioned deserve what they have coming to them they did it to other and other legions for so long and some1 bigger finally said enough is enough and playing there game on them what they have done to others i had blitz zeroing me for no reason for months on end and yet i never provoked him or any dyso's at the time as for razor we had our run ins and yes they were badge's only we done to each other either i badge 1st and razor just returned badge and what not so for razors issue with some players i have no idea is razor is deserving what razor is getting but for blitz i fully back what blitz was getting he is no longer getting his treatment and after all badgers and dyso's were at war every1 knew this so blitz complaining about something and crying like blitz is doing he has no right to it the 2 legions were at war with each other for how long One of my rare times I check in the forum and I see a post here.
Let me get this straight.
I deserve to get continuously hit as soon as I'm seen on the bt by the same person and usually that's within the first 10 min that I repair somehow huh ? That person decides that they'll keep doing that until they get tired so I can't play to get badges etc .. They choose how much game time I get because they live in the game and I don't.
I might have 5 hours to play when they have more than 12 hours and their mission is to make you quit.
You're saying that I deserve all that because you hit a Dysonian and got alerted right ?
Number one, we were at war with PA, Dominion, HB and whatever name they'll pick later since the game began. In wars, if you attack an enemy, you will get zeroed and get put down for 2 days while on the enemies news feed without a doubt. Every person that I zeroed from HB was alerted. They made an offensive action and they paid for it ... I made sure of it as an officer and leader. It was my job period.
I never went on the bt and zeroed anyone believe it or not. All my stats came from alerts. My hacks and raids were a lot higher than my kills because I didn't hit the bt much and war was declared on us very early in the game by quite a few top legions at the same time so we had no choice to be the way we were although we did have a lot of practice in DOO.
So to say that I deserve to still get hit as soon as I repair by the same person is ridiculous. I did what any person in my position should have done.
Steal a planet .. you get zeroed. You're an enemy and get alerted .. you get zeroed.
I will admit that badge alerts got zeroed for awhile but I later thought it wasn't right and quit hitting them. The person that got badged should have simply badged them back but we didn't have a pvp policy in the Dysonians because of the past.
I personally never hit anyone longer than the 2 days that they were on the bt all the time. So no I don't deserve what I'm getting and no one else deserves it either unless they ask for it by doing offensive actions.
HB tried to make me quit twice btw ... The first time was by BlkDrgn. He spammed me with artifacts as soon as I buffed up for over a month. Don't ask me how he knew when I buffed up within minutes and don't ask me how Negron knew / knows when I repair within 10 min. I tried to figure it out for too long and came up with the only logical answers.
So no I can't stand HB and never will for quite a few reasons but I'll leave it at that because this is a harassment thread.
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Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:06 am |
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ShadowsPoison
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:11 pm Posts: 444 Location: Where are the QSES? AMIRITE??? AMIRITE???Who is "the fly"?!How long can you make this?
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Xx Blitz xX wrote: pokerman123 wrote: and again some of these players you just mentioned deserve what they have coming to them they did it to other and other legions for so long and some1 bigger finally said enough is enough and playing there game on them what they have done to others i had blitz zeroing me for no reason for months on end and yet i never provoked him or any dyso's at the time as for razor we had our run ins and yes they were badge's only we done to each other either i badge 1st and razor just returned badge and what not so for razors issue with some players i have no idea is razor is deserving what razor is getting but for blitz i fully back what blitz was getting he is no longer getting his treatment and after all badgers and dyso's were at war every1 knew this so blitz complaining about something and crying like blitz is doing he has no right to it the 2 legions were at war with each other for how long One of my rare times I check in the forum and I see a post here.
Let me get this straight.
I deserve to get continuously hit as soon as I'm seen on the bt by the same person and usually that's within the first 10 min that I repair somehow huh ? That person decides that they'll keep doing that until they get tired so I can't play to get badges etc .. They choose how much game time I get because they live in the game and I don't.
Yes that is indeed how the bt works  ... and yes you do deserve it 
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Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:13 pm |
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Xx Blitz xX
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 3:55 pm Posts: 629
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ShadowsPoison wrote: Xx Blitz xX wrote: pokerman123 wrote: and again some of these players you just mentioned deserve what they have coming to them they did it to other and other legions for so long and some1 bigger finally said enough is enough and playing there game on them what they have done to others i had blitz zeroing me for no reason for months on end and yet i never provoked him or any dyso's at the time as for razor we had our run ins and yes they were badge's only we done to each other either i badge 1st and razor just returned badge and what not so for razors issue with some players i have no idea is razor is deserving what razor is getting but for blitz i fully back what blitz was getting he is no longer getting his treatment and after all badgers and dyso's were at war every1 knew this so blitz complaining about something and crying like blitz is doing he has no right to it the 2 legions were at war with each other for how long One of my rare times I check in the forum and I see a post here.
Let me get this straight.
I deserve to get continuously hit as soon as I'm seen on the bt by the same person and usually that's within the first 10 min that I repair somehow huh ? That person decides that they'll keep doing that until they get tired so I can't play to get badges etc .. They choose how much game time I get because they live in the game and I don't.
Yes that is indeed how the bt works  ... and yes you do deserve it  So with your logic that means that everyone in the top 10 of the leader board in hacks and raids deserves it too ... They've obviously upset a lot of people.
The truth is that you obviously have had some run ins with me and think I deserve it and the ones that are on the receiving end of the guys on the top 10 of the leader board think they do too when all they have to do is alert them and have the entire legion deal with them. If your legion can't handle them then it's time to leave that legion and find one that can.
You don't condone trying to make someone quit because you don't like them or because you don't like something they've done to you or someone you know. You've got some serious problems if you really think that.
This is a game and some people including myself have put a lot of money into it and we all deserve to play it like everyone else. One person doesn't have the right to dictate when another person can play because they have more time on their hands.
If someone wants to badge people to get the new modules then they should be able to do it without having someone hit them every 5 min if they catch you on the bt, You can't badge people when you're halc'd up.
Oh yeah and there is this thing called the TOS :
3. Code of Conduct. While using the Game or Materials, you agree not to:
Restrict or inhibit any other player, user or member from using the Game, including, without limitation, by means of "hacking" or defacing any portion of the Game;
PS :
If you don't like the TOS then petition to get it changed so you can make everyone quit. That's a real good idea for Dan to make money too. Hacks 1. Monte Cristo Taltherian Excavator 13901 2. Elerian Kronyn Excavator 11165 3. Taylor Swift Taltherian Excavator 10849 4. Wolfy Minion Litheor Excavator 10341 5. XxInstigatorxX Taltherian Excavator 9450 6. Noirpa Zolazin Saboteur 9244 7. Rebel4561 Taltherian Excavator 9098 8. Nazwreck Litheor Fixer 9082 9. The Sun Tzu Taltherian Excavator 9005 10. Topper Harley Konqul Excavator 8772 11. ICBLF Taltherian Excavator 8668 12. Milesmailman Taltherian Excavator 8612 13. Shinar Taltherian Excavator 8567 14. RuinedSprinkles Aerlen Fixer 8408 15. Gallin Taltherian Excavator 8396 16. Chrace Taltherian Excavator 8194 17. KoChan Konqul Excavator 8188 18. D3m0n5h4d0w Taltherian Excavator 8114 19. Naglfar Taltherian Excavator 8015 20. Jtaries1984 Litheor Governor 8013 21. Tanitsdragon Zolazin Hacker 7633 22. Xx Blitz xX Litheor Explorer 7609
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1. ICBLF Taltherian Excavator 24468 2. S Hawking Konqul Excavator 13627 3. Topper Harley Konqul Excavator 12769 4. Senatorhung Kronyn Hacker 12185 5. Roast Konqul Excavator 11419 6. Wolfy Minion Litheor Excavator 9894 7. Ejjakai Lazuli Fixer 9660 8. PsiBlade Xecti Governor 9101 9. Xx Blitz xX Litheor Explorer 9066
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Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:31 am |
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ShadowsPoison
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:11 pm Posts: 444 Location: Where are the QSES? AMIRITE??? AMIRITE???Who is "the fly"?!How long can you make this?
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Xx Blitz xX wrote: ShadowsPoison wrote: Xx Blitz xX wrote: One of my rare times I check in the forum and I see a post here.
Let me get this straight.
I deserve to get continuously hit as soon as I'm seen on the bt by the same person and usually that's within the first 10 min that I repair somehow huh ? That person decides that they'll keep doing that until they get tired so I can't play to get badges etc .. They choose how much game time I get because they live in the game and I don't.
Yes that is indeed how the bt works  ... and yes you do deserve it  So with your logic that means that everyone in the top 10 of the leader board in hacks and raids deserves it too ... They've obviously upset a lot of people.
The truth is that you obviously have had some run ins with me and think I deserve it and the ones that are on the receiving end of the guys on the top 10 of the leader board think they do too when all they have to do is alert them and have the entire legion deal with them. If your legion can't handle them then it's time to leave that legion and find one that can.
You don't condone trying to make someone quit because you don't like them or because you don't like something they've done to you or someone you know. You've got some serious problems if you really think that.
This is a game and some people including myself have put a lot of money into it and we all deserve to play it like everyone else. One person doesn't have the right to dictate when another person can play because they have more time on their hands.
If someone wants to badge people to get the new modules then they should be able to do it without having someone hit them every 5 min if they catch you on the bt, You can't badge people when you're halc'd up.
Oh yeah and there is this thing called the TOS :
3. Code of Conduct. While using the Game or Materials, you agree not to:
Restrict or inhibit any other player, user or member from using the Game, including, without limitation, by means of "hacking" or defacing any portion of the Game;
PS :
If you don't like the TOS then petition to get it changed so you can make everyone quit. That's a real good idea for Dan to make money too. Hacks 1. Monte Cristo Taltherian Excavator 13901 2. Elerian Kronyn Excavator 11165 3. Taylor Swift Taltherian Excavator 10849 4. Wolfy Minion Litheor Excavator 10341 5. XxInstigatorxX Taltherian Excavator 9450 6. Noirpa Zolazin Saboteur 9244 7. Rebel4561 Taltherian Excavator 9098 8. Nazwreck Litheor Fixer 9082 9. The Sun Tzu Taltherian Excavator 9005 10. Topper Harley Konqul Excavator 8772 11. ICBLF Taltherian Excavator 8668 12. Milesmailman Taltherian Excavator 8612 13. Shinar Taltherian Excavator 8567 14. RuinedSprinkles Aerlen Fixer 8408 15. Gallin Taltherian Excavator 8396 16. Chrace Taltherian Excavator 8194 17. KoChan Konqul Excavator 8188 18. D3m0n5h4d0w Taltherian Excavator 8114 19. Naglfar Taltherian Excavator 8015 20. Jtaries1984 Litheor Governor 8013 21. Tanitsdragon Zolazin Hacker 7633 22. Xx Blitz xX Litheor Explorer 7609
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1. ICBLF Taltherian Excavator 24468 2. S Hawking Konqul Excavator 13627 3. Topper Harley Konqul Excavator 12769 4. Senatorhung Kronyn Hacker 12185 5. Roast Konqul Excavator 11419 6. Wolfy Minion Litheor Excavator 9894 7. Ejjakai Lazuli Fixer 9660 8. PsiBlade Xecti Governor 9101 9. Xx Blitz xX Litheor Explorer 9066Lets see -no run ins with you -I don't agree with you in part because you come off as extremely whiny-congrats on the leader board spots it obviously isn't as hard to play gl as you previously thought -I understand the TOS clearly but when it was written I'm sure that statement was not concerning in-game actions(not saying it couldn't be applied that way) but rather malicious programs You are currently suffering the consequences of your actions and since you can not figure out how to play normally with someone riding your ***, I will outline what you can do: STRATEGY 1: When you get attacked spam your artifact of choice, preferably traps repair nanos buffs and shield restorers. Heck your stalker can find you whenever you repair so throw some debuffs their way. This is called "fighting back". STRATEGY 2: Hop on gl when you usually aren't on, then find and debuff your stalker. Proceed to hack the **** out of them, don't worry they'll have plenty of actions from farming you earlier. You might even hack a planet from them wow! STRATETGY 3: Just debuff disable and raid your buddy. Don't worry he won't have a halcyon on, because he has been farming you for months STRATEGY 4: Put a bounty out on all of his planets P.S Of course you already know all of these, but sometimes whining is not the way to go. If you are already employing one or more of these strategies then that is excellent! But judging from your posts you want to be able to badge people on the bt but not be hit by your "friend", and not have to fight back against him. Also why would I petition to change TOS, I feel it suits the games needs sufficiently. Sure I have zeroed people before but I have never made them try to quit, so you shouldn't put words in my mouth because you can't think of anything that's not an insult or a complaint.
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