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Right now there are only two methods of distributing base resources, equal and percentage based on contributions. What if there were another option, like assigned distribution. Leadership assigns"shares" for lack of a better word, Shares of distribution can be changed by leadership at intervals giving leaders the power over distribution. Could be used as incentives or rewards or the removal of shares as penalties. Yes, the more shares, the less each is worth, so there would be a limit. This way you could give players who cannot donate and those that can donate their appropriate dues and reward contribution leaders their fair share all at the same time.


Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:15 am
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Right now there are only two methods of distributing base resources, equal and percentage based on contributions. What if there were another option, like assigned distribution. Leadership assigns"shares" for lack of a better word, Shares of distribution can be changed by leadership at intervals giving leaders the power over distribution. Could be used as incentives or rewards or the removal of shares as penalties. Yes, the more shares, the less each is worth, so there would be a limit. This way you could give players who cannot donate and those that can donate their appropriate dues and reward contribution leaders their fair share all at the same time.

That last bit is what % split is for.

But being able to penalize others with lower shares of base production sounds interesting.

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Using an assigned system, I could give say 2 shares to all crew who cannot yet donate, 5 shares to those that can, and extra shares to say officers leaders, or grant an extra share to a particularly active player, all independent of contributions. Also could be used to penalize players for overhitting bases for example.


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Too much work for the leaders/officers. Anything that makes more clicky clicky -1.


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Too much work for the leaders/officers. Anything that makes more clicky clicky -1.

Please think about your comments before you post. Clearly the original two options would remain. This additional option would not mean that you could not just choose Equal or % share and so there would only be more work for those who choose it.

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I don't think this would work... Might make legion members upset. -1

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My legion just give out planets as special rewards... Isn't that much easier?

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Or a reset could be given 100% payout.

Getting a higher base payout than you deserve from your % just doesn't seem right to me
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This could be easily exploited by greedy leaders and officers changing there %.


So +1 from me :P

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the one problem that i have with this is the greedy leader/officer thing. i guess though if they are not giving out fair amounts the people in the legion would just and go to a new one. this could really help on a leader/officer appreciation day. i think this a great idea


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Interesting and given the legion aspect as well as the problems of freeloaders as opposed to freebooters, worth considering...

that said, I think that while doable its likely to give Dan a stroke in terms of setting it up.

Fireblade while it has potential for abuse, the reality is if its abused too much, who would stay with the creeps?

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After a few minutes of thinking about this it does seem like an interesting idea with potential to be exploited by unscrupulous leaders/officers as well as enable easy favoritism to be given to certain members. But how would it be implemented?

Something like 10 shares per member * # of members in legion = Total Shares.

So a legion with 50 members would have a total of 500 shares for distribution between members. Let's say this hypothetical legion has a tiered system for shares that is split along the lines of Leader/Officer/Member. They have 5 leaders, 5 officers, and 40 members. All leaders receive an equal amount, as do all officers, and all members respectively.

They choose to split the shares like so:

Each Leader gets 16 shares (Leaders total is 80)
Each Officer gets 12 shares (Officers total is 60)
Each Member gets 9 shares (Members total is 360)

If a member joined though that neat clean system would break down as now the legion would have 510 shares making the system look something like the following.

Leader = 16 shares
Officer = 12 shares
Member = 9 shares
New Guy = 10 Shares

Making the carefully constructed tier system fail byrequiring either at least one person to be paid outside of their tier or a member to do quite a bit of math in order to find a "neat" distribution again UNLESS the system included the ability to have unassigned shares which do not affect the actual distribution of base resources.

Then the above scenario COULD become

Leader = 16 shares
Officer = 12 shares
Members n New Guy = 9 shares
Unassigned = 1 Share

But what if a person LEFT the legion of 50? Now they have 490 Shares to distribute. With the leaders receiving 80 shares, and the officers receiving 60 shares the remaining members are left with 350 shares among them and 39 people that they would need to be distributed to. With the way the system was set up before they require 351 shares for 39 members, but the legion only has 350. It does not have enough shares to maintain it's distribution system.

What happens now?

Does the system reset itself so that all shares must be redistributed, ignore the lack of shares and allow distribution to continue in the same manner as before, or default back to Equal Payout in order to prevent an error?

I see MANY potential headaches arising from such a system.

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After a few minutes of thinking about this it does seem like an interesting idea with potential to be exploited by unscrupulous leaders/officers as well as enable easy favoritism to be given to certain members. But how would it be implemented?


you would not use a specific number of shares ... but rather have a pool for each member level:

leaders' pool: 10% (split equally among active leaders)
officers' pool: 5% (split equally among active officers)
members' pool: 85% (split equally among active members)

leaders would be able to change these allocations once per week (for this type of distribution). they would still be able to change between equal, % or pool at any time.

legions could then distinguish themselves based on the fairness or unfairness of their distributions (and the distribution of membership levels). older legions could avoid the 'we were here first' squatter mentality of % distribution, while those who contribute to legion success get an incentive that equal shares do not allow.

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