How much are these upgrades going for knowing that the amount of CTP and energy needed to get this available?

While expected, you can not use it on someone's shared planet.

"Only available for use on Your Planets"


Also FWIW, the only usable on deserts depends on the planet. I tried a different planet that it wouldn't work on today and it said only usable on barrens.

Deserts are considered habitable planets as are terras, gaias, icy's, and Oceans. Since barrens fit into the uninhabitable category with chthonian, gas, plasma, volcanics, toxics, irrads, and demon worlds, it kinda makes me wonder if that's why its giving one message for one planet type and another message for another planet type. Like if it has something to do with the habitable vs uninhabitable types if you use it on a terra it will say you can only use on deserts and if you use on a gas it will say you can only use on barrens. Its a small detail but just made me curious.

Mentor's Instruction

Not surprising, just confirming that a 2nd mentor can't add it a second time.

As such, it is really limiting to have more than one Mentor in the lab. There is nothing for the 2nd one to do since it no longer works on allies.

So then really the only benefit that a second Mentor would get would be the passive 5% artifact boost?

I sent a ticket asking about that. That was most definitely an oversight. Why would anyone do that when they could get more? It seems like instead there should be an extra bonus payout to the legion based on how many Mentors you have, like the base 5% bonus +1% for each loyal one you have kinda deal.

Yeah, we thought that might be the case, even if not mentioned but still 5% even with two mentors. It sounds like it was supposed to work on allies but was broken and he didn't fix, just removed, sort of nerfing the profession.

I love the idea of a profession where you are giving up something to help your legion but even working right, I'm not sure that the math works in anyone's favor. The amount of bonus FP to the base per person is probably less than the 5% extra that excavator probably gives to the mentor (being they are old timers, probably picking up 500k an hour). At 500k, that 5% lose = 25k per hour x 24 = 600k total. I don't think a L9 base's buff of 5% would off set what you lose. Probably better off being excavator and sending people more arties (which you're probably already doing). I guess that you can't send the arties that are important to people which is the bonus of this.

Honestly mentor should boost days played on people under 10 years in your legion. That'd be far more meaningful to helping your allys than any small base production boost. Maybe swap it to a base ability that 'adds 1 day played to every active loyal legion member under 10 years for each active loyal mentor in the legion and boosts base production by 2% per active loyal mentor for 20 hours.'

Maybe swap it to a base ability that 'adds 1 day played to every active loyal legion member under 10 years

Please no. Please let's not tamper with stats that shouldn't be tampered with. As soon as you add even one day to that stat then it no longer represents the number of days you've played and it completely defeats the point.

Please no. Please let's not tamper with stats that shouldn't be tampered with. As soon as you add even one day to that stat then it no longer represents the number of days you've played and it completely defeats the point.

And what is the point realy? The point of locking behind a stat players have no influence over the only guaranteed permanent content updates the game is getting and has gotten for a very long time now? 'Hey heres a new shiny thing, sure will be great when you can get it in 1482 days time!' Its not the same, its so distant it might as well not exist. Quite frankly its a great way to kill off the investment of such players.

What 10 year players aren't getting is just how much it feels terrible to have the one stat outside of the players agency be given such disproportionate value. Everything else you can at least have some measure of control over.

A mentor is a experienced, older adviser who attempts to counsel and assist in the development of those younger and less experienced than themselves.
The way to do the most good with an ability focus'd around 'mentorship' is this because it'll actually help such players in a way that actually matters to them.

Luminous Sub-Frequency Lens Transforms a Barren, Desert, Metallic, Icy, Terra, or Toxic planet into a Luminous world, enhancing its size by 1 and all resources by 3 in the process. Requires 15 Prismodyne Energy to use.

It has been changed. Very nice so all those nice planets that you cant Seed or Melt at least have a nice substitute.