Couldn't agree more... maybe even possibly the rank required to join a legion, unless by invitation. After a previous legion fell apart when the leader ran into account problems and could not access the game, and plans i had to invest money into the base, I decided to start my own, with a couple close friends. But in the roughly 2 weeks it's been active, i've had atleast 10 players join, rank 1-3 at most, play for an hour, and haven't returned since. After putting atleast 150 GP into the base and plans on alot more real soon, I question the value of even doing so, or just sticking to investing in my ship and planets for now.

those are the players we are trying to keep so no to the rank requirement to joining a legion.

Exacty, those are the people we want to stay and learn. But we shouldnt let any little kid with 4 hours to spare create a legion that will make other people hate the game. Make them put in some time first.

I'm sorry, but -1

had my friends and I been unable to start a legion together within a few days, we'd have left this game. We're still here after over a year~ some people have come and gone from my legion.

if people want to have a legion from day 1-2, then they should be allowed. No need to shoehorn them into existing legions or make them wait until rank 50+ as that'll drive away new players.

gotta look at it from both sides, not just the side that involves "It's so hard to recruit".

There's no reason a legion with 0% active members should exist. Start with deleting those and see how that helps solve the problem.

I'm not opposed to a rank limit to start, but some folks like to do their own thing, and for those who want to make a legion on their own, I say let them. If they decide the game is not for them, let them do that in their own legion instead of joining mine and not coming back. Then Dan deletes the inactive legion and life goes on.