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 Daily Reward: Right to Complain about Minerals 
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I was reading a post where someone said we have no right to complain about the Daily Reward( you know, how some want the credits back and others don't).



I agree! Lets all get rid of the daily reward. "It is a REWARD so stop complaining!" Wait, how did we earn this reward.......?

A week ago I would have agreed that it is a free reward(again, don't you have to earn a reward?) and you should not complain about it since it is free, but now I see it as a aspect of the game to keep players playing. Lol, after all. "I need just 5mins to log on to get my "Daily Reward", before we can leave home to go.....". Doesn't it help encourage players to log on daily?

Thus, applying that logic to the scenario the daily reward is YOUR reward for continuing to play the game daily and all those who say you should not complain about it are wrong. If you don't like what it gives out then, from Dan's POV(Point of View), it is not fulfilling its intended purpose, WHICH the intended purpose is to help keep players satisfied with the game.

SO if you don't like how it gives out minerals, instead of credits(currently I get about the same amount of credits from the minerals), your complaining or not complaining or trying to counter the complainer is your right since it is a feature that you enjoy and is PART( I said PART. And remember, when you get a Energy Cube you are like! "YESSSS! I have not gotten one of these in FOUR DAYS!(Followed by a big smile)" or when your one of them there high level players, "CRAP! I got minerals. THIS SUCKS! I wish Credits would come back(followed by a frowny face.)") of the reason you like to play.


Remember, how much you enjoy this game effects how much you spend on it. NOW before I have people going and saying my last line(Remember, how much you enjoy this game effects how much you spend on it.) is FALSE, DO YOU PAY/SPEND MONEY FOR GAMES YOU HATE? SO, "YES!" Enjoying a game is a huge factor in whether you pay money to a game.


SO to wrap things up I will give out my Thesis Statement.( Note: I don't plan to write a Paper using this Thesis Statement) (^_^)

Start Thesis Statement:

Every player has the right to complain, not complain, and/or to counter-the complainer about the Daily Reward and Changes made to it.

End Thesis Statement.

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Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:18 pm
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miss spelled title, and i agree with you.

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miss spelled title, and i agree with you.


I noticed that after I posted, but am not sure how to change the title.....Let me try something and I have a feeling I just found out how to fix it!

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Valocis wrote:
secret person. wrote:
miss spelled title, and i agree with you.


I noticed that after I posted, but am not sure how to change the title.....Let me try something and I have a feeling I just found out how to fix it!

it is fixed :) .

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I disagree

You have the right to complain about anything as long as you don't resort to insults or flaming. Or until Dan or another official clearly states otherwise.

In fact, the only right that should be in question is the right to demand. No player has the right to demand anything out of the game unless they have entered into a contract and circumstances allow them the right to demand.

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I disagree

You have the right to complain about anything as long as you don't resort to insults or flaming. Or until Dan or another official clearly states otherwise.

In fact, the only right that should be in question is the right to demand. No player has the right to demand anything out of the game unless they have entered into a contract and circumstances allow them the right to demand.


DID you even read what I wrote? I said you have a right to complain? and you said you disagreed and then agreed with me?

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Valocis wrote:
canshow wrote:
I disagree

You have the right to complain about anything as long as you don't resort to insults or flaming. Or until Dan or another official clearly states otherwise.

In fact, the only right that should be in question is the right to demand. No player has the right to demand anything out of the game unless they have entered into a contract and circumstances allow them the right to demand.


DID you even read what I wrote? I said you have a right to complain? and you said you disagreed and then agreed with me?

I skimmed the middle, didn't notice the "are wrong" until now. Also,

As for this,

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Every player has the right to complain, not complain, and/or to counter-the complainer about the Daily Reward and Changes made to it.

I took the 1st comma as a 'but', so i thought you were saying this;

Every player has the right to complain but not complain, and/or to counter-the complainer about the Daily Reward and Changes made to it.

My mistake.

Edit: I don't know who in their right mind moved this to suggestions & ideas...

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You have the right to complain, if Dan then gives a good reason for what he did to the game and you keep on complaining. I call it #$&*@, nobody likes it.

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it should be a mixture where if the game selects that you are to receive the minerals reward then it chooses again whether it is given in credits or minerals units

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canshow wrote:
Valocis wrote:
canshow wrote:
I disagree

You have the right to complain about anything as long as you don't resort to insults or flaming. Or until Dan or another official clearly states otherwise.

In fact, the only right that should be in question is the right to demand. No player has the right to demand anything out of the game unless they have entered into a contract and circumstances allow them the right to demand.


DID you even read what I wrote? I said you have a right to complain? and you said you disagreed and then agreed with me?

I skimmed the middle, didn't notice the "are wrong" until now. Also,

As for this,

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Every player has the right to complain, not complain, and/or to counter-the complainer about the Daily Reward and Changes made to it.

I took the 1st comma as a 'but', so i thought you were saying this;

Every player has the right to complain but not complain, and/or to counter-the complainer about the Daily Reward and Changes made to it.

My mistake.

Edit: I don't know who in their right mind moved this to suggestions & ideas...



I GUESS this would be CONSIDERED a Suggestion?

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well i got about 20-40m from the minerals where as i get 120-600m from the credits
on a side not art points would have been awesome even though only 3k which is what i got is equivalent to an hour or less making it the worst daily reward that you can get credits being next then research even though my last research pull was about 5 hours worth for me so i liked it
i dreaded getting credits now i dread getting credits and mineral points

proper balance put in art points

suggestion make daily reward different reward players who log in 5x in a row with trimark 1x with mineral or credits 2x with research 3x 4x with rank points 5x with trimark

instead of energy cube and trimark choose one or the other
instead of mineral or credits chooose one or the other
case in point would probably be mineral and throw in art instead of credits if i pull a shipbot from the art i wouldn't mind at all
getting 5hours of mineral art or research would be a good bonus but getting an hour worth of minerals does not encourage me to play the game i pull my own art and usually have plenty of ku


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it still would be nice if they gave 4 of of art when they do that i wont complain about minerals at all the research is always nice too


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here is my idea:
A lot of games have a daily reward that "builds up" so you get more stuff the more consecutive days you are on. I think that's good.
In this case, it can be considered in two ways:
1. the volume goes up over time. With special(none cr/art/min/research but instead artifact etc) giving x2 on 5 consecutive days and the other(cr/art....) increase by 50% a day.
or
2. make a 2-3 more different drops into the daily. And then, give the player to disable 0,1,2,3,4 different things based on their consecutive days of log in.
For example, if the drop list is cr/art/min/research/e cube/tri em/planet. On the 3rd consec day, I can disable 2, that means I can choose to not get cr and min, so I would only receive art/research/e cube/tri em/planet. while on the 5th day, I can make it so I only get research/tri em/planet

Note that as daily got a 20 hour cd(as opposed to saying once daily) I think it should be considered consecutive if you recieve two rewards within say 30 hours of each other(wasting a max of 10 hours of "cd time" in between) and earn the consecutive count each time you receive it.

both would encourage further activity, as it encourage consecutive logins. The former is the more common method, although it might have to go through looping(that is, reset to 1 after you get 5) Looping can give more on 5s while none-looping(as long as you recieve daily, it's always 5) would give a bit less on 5 but more overall if you are active all the time compared to looping.
The latter I think is better ideally speaking, as it does address the issue raised here and suit each player differently(some ppl need art more than mineral but...). The only problem with the latter is that I have yet to see any game with a daily reward like that so I imagine it might be on the harder side to code. Although there might be a need for expansion of selections. Up to 10 different things are fine as I would love to take out 4 and leave 6(such as rank/art/research/e cube/tri em/planet) for this. So even if my luck fails and I always hit art, at least it's something useful.

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