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My resources are maxing out in about 6 hours. Thats faster than I can collect them a lot of the time. I am losing between 10,000 and 20,000 minerals and research points every time I have to let things sit because I can't get online.

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I have had the same problem for a long time. There's no suggestions. The caps allows people who play less hardcore to have a chance against big players.

Only thing you can do is maxing your planet number to have more limit with minerals / artifacts and xp even more for more research limit.


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I have had the same problem for a long time. There's no suggestions. The caps allows people who play less hardcore to have a chance against big players.

Only thing you can do is maxing your planet number to have more limit with minerals / artifacts and xp even more for more research limit.


Heh, that is very reason why I didn't go full RP production route in first place so I set my AP=RP production for long time to fit my play schedule and it helps ALOT. I had been chasing down lot of artifact rich planets for months.. I'm glad that I did heh and it's SO SO much harder to hit max in artifact production from 0 to 48k compared to research cap..

Vygoid sure helps alot with increasing the cap (I assume that you are already one) to extend the duration to the max.. That's why vygoid profession is extremely popular for high rank players.

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My resources are maxing out in about 6 hours. Thats faster than I can collect them a lot of the time. I am losing between 10,000 and 20,000 minerals and research points every time I have to let things sit because I can't get online.

Any suggestions?

Tear down research buildings on planets that are also artifact/mining rich. Replace it with artifact/mining.

Example, your newest planet, Beljufanus, is
Mining Sparse
Artifact Extremely Rich
Research Extremely Rich

Don't put anything into research, put it all into artifacts.


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Here a couple suggestions that you may have already thought of, or that were mentioned here...

1) You did not say you were maxing out on artifact points, so maybe switch some planet modules from Research and/or Mining to Artifact, even if it is less beneficial.

2) If you have not already, you could also replace production with attack/defense/sheilds/population to make your planets harder to detect and to take if they are detected. I mean, with the Hack caps now in place, I could consider trying to take one of PSICore's planets if it was good enough and un-defended enough, then suffering his retribution for a couple days...

And if you think maxing out in six hours seems bleak, I swear I remember reading here how someone was maxing out his research in about four hours!

[edit: personally, I am trying to keep mine at about 10 hours or more... slower, but that way I don't get antsy and tempted to violate company internet policy at work]

Thanks for reading!


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Zhorgul wrote:
I have had the same problem for a long time. There's no suggestions. The caps allows people who play less hardcore to have a chance against big players.

Only thing you can do is maxing your planet number to have more limit with minerals / artifacts and xp even more for more research limit.


Heh, that is very reason why I didn't go full RP production route in first place so I set my AP=RP production for long time to fit my play schedule and it helps ALOT. I had been chasing down lot of artifact rich planets for months.. I'm glad that I did heh and it's SO SO much harder to hit max in artifact production from 0 to 48k compared to research cap..

Vygoid sure helps alot with increasing the cap (I assume that you are already one) to extend the duration to the max.. That's why vygoid profession is extremely popular for high rank players.


- Actually, I've used the Glaviz device to change race a bit sometimes, and I found out that there's no cap bonus for Vygoids despite it says so in the race description, never reported it tho :D
- Who said I have crappy AP production ;)
- You went for a strategy that is good when you use CC, and I'm not really using it ;) so I rely much more on tech advance.


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Drop your cloak and scan and let others spend your research for you. :twisted:


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Drop your cloak and scan and let others spend your research for you. :twisted:


ROFL


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Having problems with your resources maxing out?!?? Okay I have your solution.

Spend 5 GP to uncolonize your dyson and main exotic. Then share them with your legion.

We colonize them and your problem disappears in one breathtakingly spectacular move.


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I call dibbs on the Dyson! :twisted:


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- Actually, I've used the Glaviz device to change race a bit sometimes, and I found out that there's no cap bonus for Vygoids despite it says so in the race description, never reported it tho :D
- You went for a strategy that is good when you use CC, and I'm not really using it ;) so I rely much more on tech advance.


- Really, Vygoid profession doesn't increase the cap by 2x? New to me heh cuz I never been one before..
- I never ever spent one cent in buying research (I got decent research points via hacking along with some decent planets) so I rely on tech advance but not too much because if I focus too much on research then it's being wasted due to my work hours. I currently reach at the cap in 6 hours which is absolute minimum I am willing to have (9 or 10 hours would be better).

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- Actually, I've used the Glaviz device to change race a bit sometimes, and I found out that there's no cap bonus for Vygoids despite it says so in the race description, never reported it tho :D
- You went for a strategy that is good when you use CC, and I'm not really using it ;) so I rely much more on tech advance.


- Really, Vygoid profession doesn't increase the cap by 2x? New to me heh cuz I never been one before..
- I never ever spent one cent in buying research (I got decent research points via hacking along with some decent planets) so I rely on tech advance but not too much because if I focus too much on research then it's being wasted due to my work hours. I currently reach at the cap in 6 hours which is absolute minimum I am willing to have (9 or 10 hours would be better).


- yeah I was surprised, but if Vygoid really had 2x research Cap ... That would be too much of a disadvantage for the others races.
- I didn't say you bought research, Actually I estimate your minimum spending at 10k GPs, even tho you probably spent more. You didn't spend them in research of course, you spent them into your ship, I estimate you bought about 250 ship bot, instead of using the ranking up points in decks, you actually spent about 300 points in tactical officers, leaving you with an advantage that very little person can match at same lvl.


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APs and NPC loot can get you quite a bit of extra decks. There is no way in hell he paid for all those decks. The AP/hr at higher levels can make it outpace actual levelling for decks. It takes longer to fill up than research and mining too.

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APs and NPC loot can get you quite a bit of extra decks. There is no way in hell he paid for all those decks. The AP/hr at higher levels can make it outpace actual levelling for decks. It takes longer to fill up than research and mining too.

I got agree with this, from the stat boosting artifacts I get every 2 days (how long it takes me to rank up) I usually get about 7 rank points worth from AP alone. For instance in my case im stat wise 97.2 ranks above where I "should" be and iv never paid for a stat boosting artifact in my life.

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APs and NPC loot can get you quite a bit of extra decks. There is no way in hell he paid for all those decks. The AP/hr at higher levels can make it outpace actual levelling for decks. It takes longer to fill up than research and mining too.


I'm very close in terms of lvl with nocifier, I have a very nice AP/H, probably much better than him cause i have +10 buildings. I made those calculations based that on long term we had similar amount of ship bonus artifacts (i get a bunch of them like everyone, and there's no way luck / unluck could make such a difference ;) ). It's my calculation that's it.

Also another point is that when he was lvl 100 he had probably 200 more decks than me when I was like lvl 140. And at lvl 100 there was no way he could have had such a good AP/H.


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- Really, Vygoid profession doesn't increase the cap by 2x? New to me heh cuz I never been one before..


Vygoid does get a 20% bonus to hourly Research production, but despite what the Wiki says, does NOT get a 50% bonus to the research point storage capacity. As a Vygoid I have the same 150 point per level storage capacity that other races have, I just fill it up faster with the 20% production bonus...


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Zhorgul wrote:
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APs and NPC loot can get you quite a bit of extra decks. There is no way in hell he paid for all those decks. The AP/hr at higher levels can make it outpace actual levelling for decks. It takes longer to fill up than research and mining too.


I'm very close in terms of lvl with nocifier, I have a very nice AP/H, probably much better than him cause i have +10 buildings. I made those calculations based that on long term we had similar amount of ship bonus artifacts (i get a bunch of them like everyone, and there's no way luck / unluck could make such a difference ;) ). It's my calculation that's it.

Also another point is that when he was lvl 100 he had probably 200 more decks than me when I was like lvl 140. And at lvl 100 there was no way he could have had such a good AP/H.


I sure bought some ship-bots in mixture with free ones from AP. I bought heavily at the beginning that helped me to achieve Star Destroyer class by rank 95.. After that, my purchases slowed down alot thanks to self-sustaining artifact production and NPC farming to allow my ship to grow reasonably on its own. I don't know how much I bought cuz never bothered to track. All I know is that I had high AP/hr since day one even beating my RP/hr.. I never bought RP itself cuz it sure doesn't worth $ at all. My current AH/Hr is now almost 3,800 and still growing due to two Artifact-rich planets not hitting peaked yet. I still have +8 bldgs. Farming NPCs really helps to expand my ship size nicely.

Yep, since my ship is capable of carrying ALL modules that allows me to use rescued prisoners and rank point from rank up to invest into tactical officers lately and it's now 290.. Close to your estimation, Zhorgul.. :) I will keep investing lot of rank points into tactical officers nowadays while just getting vaults and ship-bots from NPC and AP/HR into my decksize increases. My goal is to become highest attack ship in the Galaxy due to Konqul race that I am dedicated to.

I also got crapload of 10 hp hull and 5 hp shield enhantments from my artifact production. I never bought them either and my hull/shield increases daily. I seems to get maybe 4 or 5 of each item daily.. That adds up quite nicely.

Lot of my DOO members are following my advice of going high AP/HR route and nice NPC farmings from DOO.. Their ships sure had gotten big for their rank range and they are pretty happy with it. :) It was rather difficult at the early stage of GL.. Now it's easier to get nice, decent AP/HR and other sources of ship enhancements...

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When you guys spend your APs, do you clear them all out at once, or do you just spend in a specific level range? For instance, I'm trying to farm the rescued prisoner's artifact. I wait till my AP's get to around 10k then I spend them down to about 7-8k, then I stop and wait for them to recharge back to 10k.

Is this what you guys do or do you just blow the whole thing and let them recharge from 0?


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When you guys spend your APs, do you clear them all out at once, or do you just spend in a specific level range? For instance, I'm trying to farm the rescued prisoner's artifact. I wait till my AP's get to around 10k then I spend them down to about 7-8k, then I stop and wait for them to recharge back to 10k.

Is this what you guys do or do you just blow the whole thing and let them recharge from 0?

Right now, I'm staying above 20k. I really want another cargo pod and 20k is what you need to get one. I keep getting Alien Star Charts which are 10K so I lose a big chunk that way.


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When you guys spend your APs, do you clear them all out at once, or do you just spend in a specific level range? For instance, I'm trying to farm the rescued prisoner's artifact. I wait till my AP's get to around 10k then I spend them down to about 7-8k, then I stop and wait for them to recharge back to 10k.

Is this what you guys do or do you just blow the whole thing and let them recharge from 0?


Yeah, my threshold is at 8k too. I claim everytime it goes over 8k because I like many artifacts that cost under 8k.. I don't need mass cargo anymore so are melters. I try to stay away from them so I force myself to sit at 8k for those specific artifacts I want..

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