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What does it do? Its from the new mission "Desperate Confinement"


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20 attack, 40 cloak. 15 size. It doubles depending on your race and profession. Check the other forum posts today and you'll find the details.

Basically if you're low rank then it's not really worth it unless you're the right race or profession. Zolazin Jammers give better cloak per space. Dominion cannon gives better attack per space.

If you're Kongul, Drannik or a raider the attack bonus doubles. If you're zolazin, hacker or spy the cloak bonus doubles so it's a good drop.

For higher ranks with big ships who want a high attack as possible then it's a useful drop. Wish the attack was higher though. 25 for that size would be better.

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So, essentially, you should be Konqul Spy to use this properly?

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So, essentially, you should be Konqul Spy to use this properly?

Waiting to hear back from Dan cause I just asked him. I really want to make sure you retain the bonus if you change your race.


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I'm looking for the same confirmation. I'll only change profession if it stays like that. It's not worth giving up 30% hull for a tiny amount of cloak...

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Eh, I'm not bothering. It's not worth it, and the Xecti Chain doesn't have a bottleneck like the Kronyn Chain.

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I'm looking for the same confirmation. I'll only change profession if it stays like that. It's not worth giving up 30% hull for a tiny amount of cloak...

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It applies to the race/profession you are at the moment, so it will change if you do.


Makes me happy to know that I don't have to change profession to get the most out of it!


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Yes, to clarify: the bonus is awarded IF you are a race and/or profession that matches. You can get both the cloak and attack bonus at the same time. However, you will no longer receive the bonus if you change to something else that does not match later.


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Okay, that begs the question:

852 hull or 228 cloak... decisions decisions...

At rank 77, both are alot...

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228 cloak is almost as much as I carry at rank 137, and do perfectly fine at hacking. I think that is worth it. Pump a tier into hull and you'll make up the difference in hull, plus you have great defenses Strm.

Normally, I'd say hull, but I think for Strm the cloak would be better.

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Note: Zolazin Raiders, Konqul Spies, and Drannik Hackers get both bonuses
(there's no other race & profession combinations with these 3 races and 3 professions that overlap in a way to give both bonuses.)

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Note: Zolazin Raiders, Konqul Spies, and Drannik Hackers get both bonuses
(there's no other race & profession combinations with these 3 races and 3 professions that overlap in a way to give both bonuses.)


Are you sure?
I think you only need to meet one of the criteria to receive 40 attack and 80 cloak.

For example, if you are a Konqul (any profession) OR a Raider (any race) you will get 40 attack and 80 cloak. If you're a Konqul Raider, you'll still only get 40 attack and 80 cloak.

(One of my legion members is a Zolazin Spy. He got 40 attack and 80 cloak)


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It specifically has that one set doubles the cloak bonus and the other set doubles the attack bonus. Not being any of the above doubles both.


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Lone.Lycan wrote:
Note: Zolazin Raiders, Konqul Spies, and Drannik Hackers get both bonuses
(there's no other race & profession combinations with these 3 races and 3 professions that overlap in a way to give both bonuses.)


Are you sure?
I think you only need to meet one of the criteria to receive 40 attack and 80 cloak.

For example, if you are a Konqul (any profession) OR a Raider (any race) you will get 40 attack and 80 cloak. If you're a Konqul Raider, you'll still only get 40 attack and 80 cloak.

(One of my legion members is a Zolazin Spy. He got 40 attack and 80 cloak)


item description:
Increases cloaking by 40 and attack by 20.
If you are zolazin, spy, or hacker, the cloak bonus doubles.
If you are konqul, drannik, or raider, the attack bonus doubles.

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So if your friend is a zolazin spy, he should only get 80 cloak and 20 attack... though being Zolazin grants him an additional 40% cloak modifier as well, so if he uninstalls/installs the module what he should actually see is an unbuffed flipflop of about 96-112 cloak (depending on whether the bonus 40 is being applied after or before the zolazin modifier is applied)... and 20 attack.

Zolazin and spy both satisfy the cloak bonus, not the attack bonus
To satisfy the conditions for both you have to have a race or profession in each line.

here's a little color-coded help.... Magenta satisfies Cloak, Yellow satisfies Attack
Zolazin can be Spy, Raider, Explorer, Hacker, Builder, Saboteur
Konqul can be Spy, Builder, Fixer, Excavator, Miner, Raider
Drannik can be Physicist, Builder, Explorer, Hacker, Merchant, Fixer

pick a race, and pick a profession in a color that doesn't match the race... only those combinations will get both bonuses... (otherwise, the text is wrong or the item is bugged)
May DAN correct me if I'm wrong here or misunderstanding the text of the module and what Dan has already said about it...

Thus.... to get both bonuses, you need to be one of the following:
Zolazin Raider
Konqul Spy
Drannik Hacker

Zolazin Spy and Zolazin Hacker only get a single cloak bonus, and Konqul Raider only gets a single attack bonus

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It specifically has that one set doubles the cloak bonus and the other set doubles the attack bonus. Not being any of the above doubles both.

Not being any of the above doubles both?? I don't see that line of bull anywhere

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So if your friend is a zolazin spy, he should only get 80 cloak and 20 attack... though being Zolazin grants him an additional 40% cloak modifier as well, so if he uninstalls/installs the module what he should actually see is an unbuffed flipflop of about 96-112 cloak (depending on whether the bonus 40 is being applied after or before the zolazin modifier is applied)... and 20 attack.


I can confirm that the Konqul/Spy/Zolazin bonus is applied to the bonus stats. We were chatting about it in our legion group and Strm, who got one, was nice enough to confirm that he got 48 attack from the module, including Konqul.

It is worth noting, that for optimal use, Zolazin Spy actually comes in higher than Konqul Spy, Zolazin Raider or Drannik Hacker due to the huge cloak bonus.

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I can confirm that the Konqul/Spy/Zolazin bonus is applied to the bonus stats. We were chatting about it in our legion group and Strm, who got one, was nice enough to confirm that he got 48 attack from the module, including Konqul.

It is worth noting, that for optimal use, Zolazin Spy actually comes in higher than Konqul Spy, Zolazin Raider or Drannik Hacker due to the huge cloak bonus.

oops, forgot the extra 20% from spy in my estimate...

keep in mind this is only because of 80 cloak from the module (40 plus a single 40 cloak bonus for being zolazin, spy, or hacker).... and applying 1.4x for zolazin and 1.2x for spy... making 134.4

and note a zolazin spy does NOT get the attack bonus... he only sees 20 atk per module

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thunderbolta wrote:
I can confirm that the Konqul/Spy/Zolazin bonus is applied to the bonus stats. We were chatting about it in our legion group and Strm, who got one, was nice enough to confirm that he got 48 attack from the module, including Konqul.

It is worth noting, that for optimal use, Zolazin Spy actually comes in higher than Konqul Spy, Zolazin Raider or Drannik Hacker due to the huge cloak bonus.

oops, forgot the extra 20% from spy in my estimate...

keep in mind this is only because of 80 cloak from the module (40 plus a single 40 cloak bonus for being zolazin, spy, or hacker).... and applying 1.4x for zolazin and 1.2x for spy... making 134.4

and note a zolazin spy does NOT get the attack bonus... he only sees 20 atk per module


Yes. 134.4 for cloak, and 20 attack. Making 154.4.
96 cloak and 48 attack for Konqul Spy, coming in at 144
And finally Zolazin Raider, 112 cloak and 40 attack, at 152.

Just as a break down...

So Zolazin Raider is the optimal race... but... honestly there is no synergy to it.

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you can't count cloak equal in value to attack when determining optimum race....
the values must be weighted on a case-by-case scenario based on the desires of each individual

if you feel 1 cloak is just as good as 1 attack, then that's just you.

i would sacrifice cloak or scan (in that order) to have energy, attack, defense, hull, or shield (in that order)... though as far as best race for me for this module.... none/any/doesn't matter.... kronyn builder and mylarai miner are my current preferences...

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Lone.Lycan wrote:
i would sacrifice cloak or scan (in that order) to have energy, attack, defense, hull, or shield (in that order)...

This is my breakdown as well on the subject.


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