It would be nice to have a mission that lets you get a artifact to make a Oceanic into a Terra give you 1 up on size and 1 up on all Resource

hmmm...
very massive icy + mass surface melter = mega colossal ocean
mega colossal ocean + proposed "terra"-"forming" device = one size over mega colossal...

1) not sure if Dan is wanting a planet size over mega colossal... after all, mega colossal wasn't even an officially recognized size for a while... it was only accidentally made possible because of the mass surface melter

2) what would we call this device that forms terra (land/ground/etc) on an oceanic planet? we already have a device called a terraforming device...

3) on a science (fiction) level, how would the device work?
"All life in the ocean clumps together to form a giant landmass on one side of the oceanic planet. Incidentally, the entire atmosphere is filled with the smell of rotting fish."


......................maybe if we drop the size increase and just keep the +1 to all resources.... ooh, wait.. that'd be a terraforming device...
in which case we can just suggest this.... if an oceanic ends up with all three resources (or maybe at least just 1 resource) above un-numbered "Mega Rich" (or as i call it, "0x Mega Rich"), then it will cease being an ocean at that point and automatically be a terra...

Or more likely the planet reduces in size but increases in resources. Might be more sciencey that way. +3 resources and -1 size,.

it can be an artifact like a Octafari Hydroshifter but this one can transport land mass to a Oceanic and all planets can be restricted to Mega Colossal. But what Remainder suggest is all so good

eww... don't give Dan that idea... he might put a -1 size on the current terraforming device....

true.. it would really have to be a -1 size, because once it's a terra it can gain a gaia seed which has a +1 size...
but why waste a gaia seed like that? why not just use two of our current terraforming devices on the ocean for the same net effect on resources and size...


Icy (or even Barren) to Ocean, to Terra, to Gaia... yah, now that i think about it, i really don't think Oceanics and Terras might ever be linked together...


it would be nice if they do get linked together though....

Imagine taking a 15x v.massive oceanic made with terraformers. Add the device to make it a terra which shrinks size by 1 and adds +3 to resources so 18x massive. Then Gaia seed it to make it 20x v.massive.

But I agree. Science-wise it doesn't make sense. A water world turned into a mud world with land masses and stuff.

I'd like to see something for metallic planets. It's been suggested before. Think they're the only standard type which doesn't have an option of terraformer except for two missions - the hyperterraformer and dyson missions.

I've got a nice 15x v.massive research metallic (made before the CT Lab) which could do with an upgrade. Perhaps a new mission after Potent Residium.

Hmmm..actually I'm wrong. Oceanic planets are the ones which have no way to boost production other than NPC dropped artis like terraformers.

Dehydrator Device- +1 mining +3 Artifact -2 Research.

With the lack of water minerals because more plentyful, the archealologist with find many fossils and aritfacts left my past inhabitors but lose many underwater speices that they could study for research gain inorder to advance their civilization.

i think that works with what Popps is saying

we are walking down this road
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i wonder.. can a purely liquid planet exist?

i was think somethinking like the rock core off the planet has mass earthquakes makeing land mass as when you yous a Octafari Hydroshifter on a Barren Planet to become a Oceanic will still have a core

Not possible, it wouldn't be able to keep it as a planet, perhapes a gas giant size planet might be able to 100% water,+- a few impurities.
But i would suspect the core of the watery planet would be ice due to the massive pressure.
Perhapes the gas planet deserve a mass liquidification artifact.
Makes gas planets into a liquid, keeping the size the same but enriching the resources.

yes i like it, since terra are mostly water anyway so it could work.
does this mean that you get invicible planet or not?

Here's an idea.

After conquering a Volcanic planet a certain set of odds is in place that drops an artifact that triggers an underwater volcano on an Oceanic planet transforming it into a terra planet. Doesn't necessarily increase the size of the planet but boosts all resource production +1 or +2.

This would make Volcanic planets a big target for someone wanting to try to turn an oceanic into a terra. The production bonus makes attempts worth it but you don't have an issue with the size..

And we all know there are underwater Volcano's

i think with all these ideas dan should be able to come up with something cool

Problem is, you can still Gaia seed your new terra into a super-mega colossal. Face it... Dan will NOT allow an oceanic be turned into a terra...

That depends, if the art was something fairly "crappy" (but ez enough to get, such as farming volc occupations with invade trade(like u do with badge)/abandon) that does like size-1 res+1 it might be fine.

In such a case, it would be purely for a "setup" for gaia seed and almost useless otherwise
ofc, doing it on smaller oceans when u run out of melter/seeds to boost any planet above massive via those means anyway, you might as well do this on a massive or whatever ocean u expanded up, and then re-expand it, if you got the spare expanders.

In fact, I honestly think the addition of "setup" devices that prep a planet for certain planet-restricted transformation would be a rather nice thing to have. on those that +size, the setup can have -size in it, to prevent super-size-chains. as long as it doesn't create a loop between the transformations(which would allow semi-infinite res boost) it outa be fine.

the Dehydrator device could inhibit its ability to grow into a Gaia mebbe.

On the subject of volcanics, how about a pressure sphere - condenses the volcanic planet into a diamond planet. -1 size, - all research and artifacts, +7 mining

That would be more properly called Igneous
Igneous Rock is the crystallization(solidification) of magma(a bit more complicated but meh~)
where as diamond.... that's very specific... carbon...
and besides, it would make it harder to mine mineral, the hardness of diamond....
Although considering you are err... "applying pressure" to cause the change, it might actually be Metamorphic.
any rock expert here?

Well there are planets which might be pure diamond according to some scientist, you should of heard about the discovery about a few weeks ago.
i like the idea of diamond planets.