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thunderbolta
Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 11:01 am Posts: 5825 Location: Zolar
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So, I was thinking that after a mission chain of some sort you could unlock race hybrids.
"Hybrid" would become a profession available to all races and allows you to get the boost from another race as your profession.
Eg. Say I chose Konqul Hybrid (Vygoid) I get: +20% Attack +20% Research
This would allow more customization, and create some great synergies: Konqul Lazuli Lazuli Aerlen Vygoid Kronyn Mylarai Taltherian Konqul Aerlen Drannik Konqul
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Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:23 pm |
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detregets
Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:37 am Posts: 2637
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thunderbolta wrote: So, I was thinking that after a mission chain of some sort you could unlock race hybrids.
"Hybrid" would become a profession available to all races and allows you to get the boost from another race as your profession.
Eg. Say I chose Konqul Hybrid (Vygoid) I get: +20% Attack +20% Research
This would allow more customization, and create some great synergies: Konqul Lazuli Lazuli Aerlen Vygoid Kronyn Mylarai Taltherian Konqul Aerlen Drannik Konqul interesting , i like it +1
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:15 am |
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Vekno
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:48 am Posts: 3900
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because racial bonuses are so powerful, the 'hybrid' race that takes the place of the profession would have to have their reward cut in half. for example, if i'm an
Inergon Konqul- +10% energy, +10% attack Konqul Inergon- +20% attack, +5% energy
otherwise EVERYONE would choose this profession... but overall this is a good idea. may be a good specialty profession after we finish the Xecti Missions. Instead of getting ANOTHER race, we can unlock the hybrid and colonist professions (colonist was stated in a different thread)
EDIT: also, i think races with abilities as their racial specialty should not be able to be secondary hybrids. as you stated, people would just be taltherian mylarai. potential for infinite credits and infinite artifacts. I understand the abilities would still share a timer, but still... percentage based racial bonuses should be the only secondary racial hybrids available. so you can still pull off stuff like Kronyn Konqul, Mylarai Human, Taltherian Inergon, Genetaar Aerlen, but having two special abilities as a profession choice seems op to me...
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Pertominus
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:21 am Posts: 1091 Location: really wants 2 b in LA....
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perhaps.... instead of promoting cross species reproduction it should be....: you complete a mission that allows a special form of truce. not with the species but a training center or that species... from now on, a race option would be a mixed crew of the the current race and the awarded one...
either way..... I LOVE THIS IDEA!!! - senses new ships >.>
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:13 am |
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blakespon
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1441 Location: chilling inside of the epic Odyssey eating cookies
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i love this idea kronyn vygiod  anyway i agree though its overpowered unless cut in half
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:01 am |
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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yes,.. the idea of a kronyn vygoid child intrigues me too...
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:05 am |
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howesy
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:40 pm Posts: 3100 Location: Zolazin Prime
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thunderbolta wrote: So, I was thinking that after a mission chain of some sort you could unlock race hybrids.
"Hybrid" would become a profession available to all races and allows you to get the boost from another race as your profession.
Eg. Say I chose Konqul Hybrid (Vygoid) I get: +20% Attack +20% Research
This would allow more customization, and create some great synergies: Konqul Lazuli Lazuli Aerlen Vygoid Kronyn Mylarai Taltherian Konqul Aerlen Drannik Konqul obvious where you got the vygoid/konqul from.....but theres no sillixx
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:10 am |
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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a sillixx xecti might be interesting
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:11 am |
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Vekno
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:48 am Posts: 3900
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sillix would be included. he just gave a few examples. lol, you didnt actually expect him to list every single possible combination did you? 
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:12 am |
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rkngl
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:57 pm Posts: 250 Location: here
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I like this idea though one question would be on base abilities, because what would stop a legion from using all half Aerlen and being able to boost their def by 300%
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:41 am |
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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like Aerlen Lazuli's to cover both defense and hull buffs? maybe a half-breed's race should only count as half
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:43 pm |
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thunderbolta
Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 11:01 am Posts: 5825 Location: Zolar
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Fixer profession gives +30% Halved Lazuli gives +25%
So, that wouldn't really be worth it as fixer is available to Aerlen. Lazuli Aerlen though.
In the examples, I just based it off of full bonuses because I only really thought about the starter races. When you think about it though, Zolazin>Spy Lazuli>Fixer
Halving it: Zolazin=Spy Lazuli<Fixer
And I think those are the only examples. You can already be Mylarai Miner and Taltherian Excavator, so +10% research on Kronyn/Vygoid wouldn't be overpowered.
And yes Howesy, the Konqul/Vygoid was inspired by my legion, which inspired part of my fanfic.
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:29 pm |
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howesy
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:40 pm Posts: 3100 Location: Zolazin Prime
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thunderbolta wrote: Fixer profession gives +30% Halved Lazuli gives +25%
So, that wouldn't really be worth it as fixer is available to Aerlen. Lazuli Aerlen though.
In the examples, I just based it off of full bonuses because I only really thought about the starter races. When you think about it though, Zolazin>Spy Lazuli>Fixer
Halving it: Zolazin=Spy Lazuli<Fixer
And I think those are the only examples. You can already be Mylarai Miner and Taltherian Excavator, so +10% research on Kronyn/Vygoid wouldn't be overpowered.
And yes Howesy, the Konqul/Vygoid was inspired by my legion, which inspired part of my fanfic. ok, knew it  . cant be inspired now, its dark genome. and silix xecti would be cool lycan 
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:33 pm |
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Bluecifer
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:53 pm Posts: 3756 Location: Aboard my floating fortress of ineptitude
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Human Inergon=a lot of fast-rankers.
And I'd very much like to be a Vygoid Konqul, or a Taltherian Lazuli.
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:11 pm |
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Vekno
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:48 am Posts: 3900
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Bluecifer wrote: Human Inergon=a lot of fast-rankers. it depends the way you do it. 10% energy with a 5% xp buff is nice. but then again, you are sacrificing the builder profession for that. so what it really comes down to is are you capable to gain the required mining planets to get the tech that you would install on your ship? or would you stick with a ssb. 10% xp and 5% energy is also nice. but again, you need the resources to manage your upkeep, or will you go ssb. And really, fast ranking is cool, but if you rank too fast you become weak. its all about how you want to play the game. I would be more worried about a konqul/aerlen. And i think the best way to deal with base abilities is since the second race is a 'hybrid' version of that race, it would not count towards ANY base abilities, since officially the profession is hybrid. so you would still have your primary race count, i.e. an aerlen vygoid would count for defense but not research, and a vygoid aerlen would work towards the research bonus, but not towards the defense bonus. Lol, can you imagine a Konqul Drannik?  THAT would be the speed ranker's race of choice i would think.
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:56 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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My biggest fear would be a Lazuli Aerlen... that would just be a: "Err, let's just leave him. Not worth the energy..."
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:12 pm |
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spyder
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1543
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What'd happen with a Kronyn Mylari or something?
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:19 pm |
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thunderbolta
Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 11:01 am Posts: 5825 Location: Zolar
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The timers are shared. And it was discussed that only races that give a % boost would be available.
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:20 pm |
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howesy
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:40 pm Posts: 3100 Location: Zolazin Prime
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sillixx konqul would be helpful for me, i need more attack  sonqul 
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:38 pm |
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Deathgaze
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:42 pm Posts: 267
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Drannik Konqul would be OP as hell
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