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Awestruck
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:09 pm Posts: 46
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Hi,
I'm pretty new to Galaxy Legion, but I understand planets are key. However, perhaps because of my low rank, I have issues finding good enough planets. My scanners are only barely enough to rate a poor chance at finding a planet, because I have only found two with even moderate resources. I find it hard to upgrade my scanners further because I am currently splitting a very rich research/1x mega rich artifact planet (the best I have found) between the two, and the only other OK planet I have found is an Extremely Rich mineral planet.
Everything else I have found has either been Tiny Rich or Massive Sparse in everything else, and it's starting to take all of my energy to simply scan for planets. In the mean time I'm left taking in 19rp/hr boosted by whatever I manage to hack.
I've heard hunting NPCs can grant good planets - but I'm assuming that's at the higher ranks when rare NPCs that drop planet resource boosting artifacts are more common or some such. As of now, I've found a ravid lazuli (and count myself lucky on that), and am focusing on PvP in an attempt to get some Dominion Cannons to provide a little assurance against attack for a while.
Are there any ways other than purgers to get rid of planets cluttering my scanners, or am I just going to have to hope on the off chance after I spend 50 energy of finding a good planet?
Thanks
Edit: When I say my scanners, I mean after installing four Proximity Scanner Mk IIs and a Proximity Scanner Mk I.
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Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:45 pm |
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spyder
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1543
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Planet-wise, Anything above Large/rich is considered good for <Rank 100 (or 50, depends on rank speed).
Upgrade scanners, and use scan boosts when scanning. Only other way to improve rating is to hope for purgers, or complete Stellar Cartography once you unlock it.
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Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:06 pm |
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Awestruck
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:09 pm Posts: 46
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How can I get a scan boost to use, does it require galaxy points to buy or do I have to hold out hope for a lucky artifact from aps?
I'm also trying to upgrade scanners, but at 19 rp/hr (sometimes + ~10-20 depending on hacking), researching anything is taking a long time.
And I've been looking for anything large/rich. So far these are the planets I've found: Average -1x Mega Rich Artifact/Very Rich Research (Colonized) Small - Extremely Rich Artifact (U) Large - Very Rich Mining (Colonized) Large - Very Rich Artifact (Enemy) Small- Extremely Abundant Mining (Enemy) Very Small - Abundant Mining (U) Tiny - Abundant Artifact (U) Very Large - Average Research (Enemy) Tiny - Average Mining (Enemy - seriously, why I don't know) Large - Sparse Research (U) Massive - Sparse Research (U)
The Massive Sparse is almost tempting, but the -25% seems like too much bad for the good of the massive.
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Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:38 pm |
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Tree7304
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:05 am Posts: 2794
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Ask around for a legion to join. Most low level legions have research as their base production and there will be higher ranked people who can spare some scanning artis
Tachyon cylinder - scan +50 for 1 hour Subspace Seeker - scan +175 for 1 hour Continuum Beacon - scan +15% for 1 hour
Those are the 3 tradeable scanning artis The 4th scanning arti you will find at low levels is a stryll seeker which is an npc drop. increases scan by 10% for 1 hour
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Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:50 pm |
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pwnbus
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:36 pm Posts: 149
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Your best option is to restart your account. 1. Find a low lvl legion (it will provide you with good base production) 2. Your first planets may be better than now  3. Colonize 4+ research planets in the beginning (so you will tech faster) 4. Put your rank point into decks - so you can have all 5 scanners installed 5. Always scan with full buffs - listed above (if you dont have any of those artifacts ask some1 from your legion) 6. You can also choose Explorer profession at the beginning(+20% scan)
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Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:02 pm |
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Awestruck
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:09 pm Posts: 46
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pwnbus wrote: Your best option is to restart your account. 1. Find a low lvl legion (it will provide you with good base production) 2. Your first planets may be better than now  3. Colonize 4+ research planets in the beginning (so you will tech faster) 4. Put your rank point into decks - so you can have all 5 scanners installed 5. Always scan with full buffs - listed above (if you dont have any of those artifacts ask some1 from your legion) 6. You can also choose Explorer profession at the beginning(+20% scan) Aw man, restarting my account is exactly what I was hoping to not have to do  .
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Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:43 pm |
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Tree7304
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:05 am Posts: 2794
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you wont find anything with just the proximity scanners restarting your account may be a good idea but until you know what you are doing, you may make the same mistakes
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Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:47 pm |
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Awestruck
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:09 pm Posts: 46
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pwnbus wrote: Your best option is to restart your account. 1. Find a low lvl legion (it will provide you with good base production) 2. Your first planets may be better than now  3. Colonize 4+ research planets in the beginning (so you will tech faster) 4. Put your rank point into decks - so you can have all 5 scanners installed 5. Always scan with full buffs - listed above (if you dont have any of those artifacts ask some1 from your legion) 6. You can also choose Explorer profession at the beginning(+20% scan) Aw man, restarting my account is exactly what I was hoping to not have to do  . And I don't understand what mistakes I've made other than have some pretty shitty luck with the planet scans I got =/.
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Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:49 pm |
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Tree7304
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:05 am Posts: 2794
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mistake is the wrong word, only thing you could have done better would be to join a decent small legion which im sure you will get offers if you post something about looking for a legion
a mistake would be taking a planet you will regret later that massive gas with sparse would be a mistake anything very large and rich is a nice starting point however massive or very massive and very abundant are acceptable starter planets
the average mega rich is a good planet but only if you can take it and keep it without too much work
my rule of thumb is simple Can i get 100+ resources from this planet?
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Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:01 pm |
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playret0195x
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:48 pm Posts: 2251
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Quote: I'm pretty new to Galaxy Legion, but I understand planets are key. However, perhaps because of my low rank, I have issues finding good enough planets. My scanners are only barely enough to rate a poor chance at finding a planet, because I have only found two with even moderate resources. I find it hard to upgrade my scanners further because I am currently splitting a very rich research/1x mega rich artifact planet (the best I have found) between the two, and the only other OK planet I have found is an Extremely Rich mineral planet. Youre not the only one suffering from finding bad planets. Occasionally I come across some planets that are tiny/sparse. And some planets that are good but enemy occupied Quote: Everything else I have found has either been Tiny Rich or Massive Sparse in everything else, and it's starting to take all of my energy to simply scan for planets. In the mean time I'm left taking in 19rp/hr boosted by whatever I manage to hack. If you're that desperate than tiny planets are the way to go. I do it sometimes. My most powerful one gives me 22.5 mineral units/hour. If you don't want to invest is colonising tiny planets than join a legion, occasionally someone will share a planet location. Quote: Edit: When I say my scanners, I mean after installing four Proximity Scanner Mk IIs and a Proximity Scanner Mk I. No wonder you can't get any good planets. Research better scan modules. If your scan chance rating says Poor, you're only gonna finid like 1 planet per 6 - 15 scans.
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Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:02 pm |
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Awestruck
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:09 pm Posts: 46
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playret0195x wrote: Quote: Edit: When I say my scanners, I mean after installing four Proximity Scanner Mk IIs and a Proximity Scanner Mk I. No wonder you can't get any good planets. Research better scan modules. If your scan chance rating says Poor, you're only gonna finid like 1 planet per 6 - 15 scans. Trust me, I'm trying. But I'm only Rank 10 (6 experience from 9 now, actually), and only obtaining 19 rp/hr. However, I would like to say I'm doing alright with 20 PKs, 0 PDs, and 21 hacks. One of my friends actually has the forum name I'm using as his Galaxy Legion name (He got me to create a facebook just to play it, and I'm enjoying it), so it's a little misleading. Edit: Emphasis on "like to say". I've only done 2 missions (not completions), because I would like some Dominion Cannons to act as deterrents when I get to a higher level and start doing missions (considering they have some of the highest Attack/Deck for a good few ranks, and would also open up more deck space). I'm also experimenting with a Power Scout build, because the bonuses smaller ships get are just stupid powerful. Eventually it'll probably turn into a Power Light Frigate once everyone else is about a Frigate size and I need more space for scanners. Thanks for the advice on looking for a good low level legion though - I'm currently in an ok one (although it hasn't been around long enough to get the Loyalty production bonus and looks to be very promising for research after that kicks in!) Doubledit: I turned all production from the 1x Mega planet to Research. It was only giving me about 8 research (but a good 30 artipoints) per hour, but I figured until I find a good research planet I need its research more than the artis.
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Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:13 pm |
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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Awestruck wrote: playret0195x wrote: Quote: Edit: When I say my scanners, I mean after installing four Proximity Scanner Mk IIs and a Proximity Scanner Mk I. No wonder you can't get any good planets. Research better scan modules. If your scan chance rating says Poor, you're only gonna finid like 1 planet per 6 - 15 scans. Trust me, I'm trying. But I'm only Rank 8 (6 experience from 9 now, actually), and only obtaining 19 rp/hr. However, I would like to say I'm doing alright with 19 PKs, 0 PDs, and 21 hacks. One of my friends actually has the forum name I'm using as his Galaxy Legion name (He got me to create a facebook just to play it, and I'm enjoying it), so it's a little misleading. Edit: Emphasis on "like to say". I've only done 2 missions (not completions), because I would like some Dominion Cannons to act as deterrents when I get to a higher level and start doing missions (considering they have some of the highest Attack/Deck for a good few ranks, and would also open up more deck space). I'm also experimenting with a Power Scout build, because the bonuses smaller ships get are just stupid powerful. Eventually it'll probably turn into a Power Light Frigate once everyone else is about a Frigate size and I need more space for scanners. Thanks for the advice on looking for a good low level legion though - I'm currently in an ok one (although it hasn't been around long enough to get the Loyalty production bonus and looks to be very promising for research after that kicks in!) Doubledit: I turned all production from the 1x Mega planet to Research. It was only giving me about 8 research (but a good 30 artipoints) per hour, but I figured until I find a good research planet I need its research more than the artis. - DO NOT BOTHER restarting your account... not just yet
- you're only rank 8... you have plenty of time to find more planets, better planets...
- it's only natural that your first few planets might suck.. many of the good planets are already colonized and well cloaked, so it'll take many many scans just to find a good one
- i agree 19 research per hour sounds a little low... here's a tip... since your planets aren't so good, demolish any attack, defense, or cloak structures on the planets and fill them with whatever the best resource is for that planet...
- if your scan rating is "poor" it just means there's a 15-40% chance of finding a planet.... 40-70% = fair, and 70-100% = good... but your scan rating doesn't determine whether the planet itself would be any good... it just minimizes the amount of energy wasted between successfully finding planets
- another tip.... don't bother wasting your red badges on dominion cannons so soon... it's really a waste to buy the lower level dominion cannons, so save up for the Mk 3 dominions.... which you can't even install until you hit lvl 100...... just get yourself 512 red badges to buy the 4 as soon as possible.... THEN... if you're not anywhere near lvl 100 yet... go ahead and get a few more reds to buy ones that you CAN install (but buy your 4 Mk3's first... trust me)
- also... while you're so low level, go around hacking everyone you can.... get yourself the 3 cipherbots and 4 decryption quad frames as quickly as possible.... i know someone that had 4 quads as low as lvl 20
- oh, and while you're going around getting your red badges, don't forget to attempt a raid on all those folks you disable.... you'll want to get your protean armories as early as possible
in short.... you're not messed up yet... don't bother resetting, you'll lose your planetary aegis and really not gain anything... you can fix yourself... Edit: you might want to leave attack and defense structures on your 1x mega rich planet... being so low level don't get discouraged if someone takes that planet... at your level you really have no way to protect it, but a few structures will show people that you're doing your best to protect it
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Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:09 am |
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Awestruck
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:09 pm Posts: 46
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Lone.Lycan wrote: - DO NOT BOTHER restarting your account... not just yet
- you're only rank 8... you have plenty of time to find more planets, better planets...
- it's only natural that your first few planets might suck.. many of the good planets are already colonized and well cloaked, so it'll take many many scans just to find a good one
- i agree 19 research per hour sounds a little low... here's a tip... since your planets aren't so good, demolish any attack, defense, or cloak structures on the planets and fill them with whatever the best resource is for that planet...
- if your scan rating is "poor" it just means there's a 15-40% chance of finding a planet.... 40-70% = fair, and 70-100% = good... but your scan rating doesn't determine whether the planet itself would be any good... it just minimizes the amount of energy wasted between successfully finding planets
- another tip.... don't bother wasting your red badges on dominion cannons so soon... it's really a waste to buy the lower level dominion cannons, so save up for the Mk 3 dominions.... which you can't even install until you hit lvl 100...... just get yourself 512 red badges to buy the 4 as soon as possible.... THEN... if you're not anywhere near lvl 100 yet... go ahead and get a few more reds to buy ones that you CAN install (but buy your 4 Mk3's first... trust me)
- also... while you're so low level, go around hacking everyone you can.... get yourself the 3 cipherbots and 4 decryption quad frames as quickly as possible.... i know someone that had 4 quads as low as lvl 20
- oh, and while you're going around getting your red badges, don't forget to attempt a raid on all those folks you disable.... you'll want to get your protean armories as early as possible
in short.... you're not messed up yet... don't bother resetting, you'll lose your planetary aegis and really not gain anything... you can fix yourself... Edit: you might want to leave attack and defense structures on your 1x mega rich planet... being so low level don't get discouraged if someone takes that planet... at your level you really have no way to protect it, but a few structures will show people that you're doing your best to protect itThanks for the great advice! So far I believe I've got about 20 Blue Badges and 20 Reds. I do need to start raiding the people I disable (I just found out about the Protean Armories and their massive bonuses), but I'm worried about losing crew - what are the chances of losing a crew member in a raid? Also, what about getting ONE Mark I dominion cannon before saving up (as I'm already halfway there and it would do a little less than double my current attack)? In addition, I'm now receiving 35 rp/hr, and in about 3-4 days (the account is 1.2 days old), the loyalty production bonuses in my legion should start to kick in. I currently get about 200 a day from it (or will start to) soon. I'm currently using all mining units on my planets because they're still protected for another week and a half by the grace time, and I'll probably stall at level 19 until that time runs out, so as to milk it to the max.
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Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:19 am |
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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i think there's an absolute 5% chance of a critical fail on both raids and hacks
and maybe just one Dom might be ok...
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Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:22 am |
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Awestruck
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:09 pm Posts: 46
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Lone.Lycan wrote: i think there's an absolute 5% chance of a critical fail on both raids and hacks
and maybe just one Dom might be ok... Is the loss from the raid mostly negligible? And what does a critical failure do on a hack?
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Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:24 am |
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Tree7304
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:05 am Posts: 2794
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I agree with Lone.Lycan
You might wanna reconsider doing a scout build though. Most players agree that small ship sizes fail at the higher levels.
Critically failing a hack means they get some of your research and a planet location that you have scanned. Either one you own, unoccupied, or enemy owned. Always spend your research points before hacking people.
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Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:28 am |
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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Awestruck wrote: Is the loss from the raid mostly negligible? depends on how many crewmembers you have total... if you only have 5 crewmates left, losing 1 is a big hit... but if you have 10000 like some people, losing one is really meaningless (though they still make a big fuss about it) Quote: And what does a critical failure do on a hack? Critical Success: You will steal the location of a planet in the enemy ship's database Success: You will steal some research points from the enemy ship Unsuccessful: No research points awarded Failure: Enemy ship will counter-hack and steal research from your ship Critical Failure: Enemy ship will counter-hack and steal the location of one of your planets
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Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:29 am |
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Awestruck
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:09 pm Posts: 46
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Lone.Lycan wrote: Awestruck wrote: Is the loss from the raid mostly negligible? depends on how many crewmembers you have total... if you only have 5 crewmates left, losing 1 is a big hit... but if you have 10000 like some people, losing one is really meaningless (though they still make a big fuss about it) Quote: And what does a critical failure do on a hack? Critical Success: You will steal the location of a planet in the enemy ship's database Success: You will steal some research points from the enemy ship Unsuccessful: No research points awarded Failure: Enemy ship will counter-hack and steal research from your ship Critical Failure: Enemy ship will counter-hack and steal the location of one of your planets Ah, I see, thanks a ton for all the help. I only have one other question, and it's mostly unrelated. I received an artifact (I don't remember which), but I didn't see it being useful to me and I scrapped it for 31..."Complicated Tech Parts", do you know what they're worth?
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Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:31 am |
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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Complex Tech Parts
you'll see it called CTP by most people.... and the regular player-trade value is 1 CTP = 10 Kurenite (ku) = 100 Exotic Matter (em)
so for 30 CTP, you can easily find someone that can give you 300 Kurenite.... which if you sell off the minerals in-game, you'll have 360,528,240 credits
you might not see CTP as important to you right now.... at your level, trading some ctp for kurenite is a nice idea.... in the future, you'll have a few things to spend CTP on... but not anytime soon, really
but.................. be careful what you're scrapping.... if it was an item that dropped from an NPC, you'll see more again later... if it came from doing a mission, you probably don't want to scrap it as those are limited in quantity..... if it came from an npc that spawned as a result of completing a mission...... you also don't want to scrap those, they're limited quantity
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Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:38 am |
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Awestruck
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:09 pm Posts: 46
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Lone.Lycan wrote: Complex Tech Parts
you'll see it called CTP by most people.... and the regular player-trade value is 1 CTP = 10 Kurenite (ku) = 100 Exotic Matter (em)
so for 30 CTP, you can easily find someone that can give you 300 Kurenite.... which if you sell off the minerals in-game, you'll have 360,528,240 credits
you might not see CTP as important to you right now.... at your level, trading some ctp for kurenite is a nice idea.... in the future, you'll have a few things to spend CTP on... but not anytime soon, really
but.................. be careful what you're scrapping.... if it was an item that dropped from an NPC, you'll see more again later... if it came from doing a mission, you probably don't want to scrap it as those are limited in quantity..... if it came from an npc that spawned as a result of completing a mission...... you also don't want to scrap those, they're limited quantity That much? Wow! It must have some use if it's worth that much then, maybe I can scrap 5 of them so I have some for later. It was a...uh...gift(?) from artifact points, so it probably isn't so rare  . Do you happen to know where I can find people who will buy it? Should I just post an ad or something in my legion?
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