I know I have issues with them and anyone over rank 130 probably does too. I literally give them away for free and get more than I gave the next day, the ctl does not cut it, ACFs are just not abundant enough to keep up. I have tried scrapping it is not fast enough, by the time I hit yes scrap 200, I have another 250. The is such an abundance I think we should remove them from the drawing.

I know the lower levels would be sad, but all they need to do is ask and they shall receive, hundreds upon hundred upon hundreds.

no, i dont want obelisks to go D:

I don't think it's quite THAT bad, but yeah... I have an over abundance of these things too. In fact, last Christmas all but one or two legionmates got 5 Obelisks in a nice little package from me. The ones that didn't get any already had their own well stocked supply. But I still don't think they should be removed from the draw. Not everyone is high enough rank to see Crimson Hawks/Flamehawks and they are not necessarily in legions or friends with people who do have tons of Obelisks.

maybe Dan should make them scrappable for 2-4 CTP a piece

Even at 1 CTP that would be a ridiculous amount due to flamehawks.

-1 - Keep it the way it is right now.

I honestly don't see the issue. Seems like your complaining about an inconvenience rather than an actual issue.

There are probably a large number of low rank players who aren't in legions and who don't know about the trade pages on facebook, so without the artifact draws they couldn't get their hands on crimson obelisks.

How about dan changing the formula for the crux amp to become 50 obelisk and 10 foci. Right now thers an over aboundance of obelisk but not that much foci to go around.

I like all these arts mentioned as they are now... if people dont want them simply discard them.

I like this option even if it was 60 to 10 i would be happier .

Make it a range of drops from the hawks (both kinds)

30% no drop
35% obelisk
35% Ancient crystal foci.

I never have enough foci. I scrap over 100 obelisks a week.

+1

willing to take all the obelisks for free i use one every week waiting for another one to appear. hahaha lolz

The whole point of that is scarcity of foci if you didn't notice...
Flamehawks drop obelisk and amps. It's not likely to change.

Alternatively, change the Crux duration to the standard 4 hours (Universal Service Terminal) buffs and make it cost 10 foci and whatever number of crimson obelisks. Let's be honest. Except Binary, and he's crazy, nobody will hunt or PvP for 12 hours. Hell! Most of the people play for 3-4 hours a day at most in 2-3 separate instances. A 12 hours buff, and especially one that is so expensive, feels like a total waste. Just sayin'

12-hr crux lets you use it on 2 bases
leave its duration as is

The cost off the 4 hours one would be 10 foci. The cost of the actual, 12 hours one is 30 foci. I don't see any difference. Do you ?

I do. You could have the same effect for 2 bases at only 2/3 the cost. Use one for 4 hours, expire. Wait 4ish hours, use another. Make the thing too easy to create and everyone will be sporting them....

I agree, just leave the crux as is.

depends on what u r comparing to
some ppl are suggesting lowering foci and increase obli for crux
a 4 hour 10 foci 20 obli formula might be better than a 12 hour 20 foci 50 obli formula or something to that effect

But then again u might be against the formula ratio changes too so~ meh~

The thing is that the crux is a buff that costs 210-300 CTP for 10% more attack compared to the one from the UST that costs 30 CTP. And I do believe that most people don't need a 12 hours buff. 4 hours would suffice. Matter of perception, probably.

my preference would be 30 foci and 60 obelisks, and make the crux last 24 hours so i can put it on at the same time as the XRP Warp Fuel and have it drop at the same time