Yes, we all know what made me think of this idea. This thread is NOT here to discuss that.

I feel that for violating the ToS in terms of spamming a comm or sending obscenities to another player, rather than a ban there should be a mute as an offense. A mute could work in terms of either disallowing the offending player the access to send officer messages to other legions or post on any ship's comm for either a set period of time or permanently. Another possibility would be preventing the offending player from saying anything - in any way, shape, or form - for one to two weeks as a way to enforce, and give warning, to the fact that spamming and cursing on comms is against the ToS (which, let's be honest, many players likely did not read and therefore would not know of this rule, and even if they did, if they do not frequent the forums they would probably not believe violating it would result in a permanent ban).

Repeat: This thread is NOT to discuss events leading to the creation of this suggestion.

+1, Maybe after 2-3 temporary mutes, then a permanent mute could be enforced.

for even more serious offences, maybe a temp ban of 2-3 days, after 2 temp bans within 6months of each other = permanent ban and deletion of account?

this would give more warning to players, and give them consequences for their repeated actions, rather than major consequences for what they potentially didn't see as a violation of TOS

+1
also feel it should be based on proven evidence.
possibly even ran like (bringing back dinosaurs) runescapes quick chat. that way if a player gets muted they can at least tell their legion they are muted.

completely agree. spamming is annoying... foul language is annoying... but, big mouthed players should not be banned. they should be muted. perhaps permanently if they have multiple offenses, but i can relate to a player being at such a disadvantage in game against an enemy, the only thing they can do is use words in bulk. banning should be for players who cheat and manipulate the game through loopholes in the programming as we've seen in the past. Commonwealths ban was the scapegoat during the whole glitch wars time period, and i can see where dan needed to do that, even if i felt it was unjustified. but to carry over until now, the sith lords have no history of manipulating the game, and just because a players temper got the best of him in one instance does not justify a permanent ban on his account which he has spend his time, and potentially his money on.

yeah perm banning someone for comm spanning from a game that they spent probably months in and possibly a ton of money as well is frankly ridiculous so +1000

I would very much like to see something like this implemented. Of course, if intentional abuse of a game-breakingly bad glitch was used for a period of time, a permanent ban could also be enforced right off the bat.

Maybe give the ability to leaders too for their own legion comms if someones unruly in legion

I do not agree with this idea in entirety. I agree there should be a way to ignore players but also to remove them from your ignore list. A player managed ignore/mute feature would be well developed upon the existing "block" feature. Same with Legion to Legion communications. I also believe there should be a setting for leaders / officers to manage such as a "Legion Communication Ignore List" where all members regardless of being officer or not could block the other legion's communications for as long as they'd like or want to control such an action. This action however could only be enacted after five messages from the opposite legion (via Diplomacy).

To allow communication but also to prevent people from being blocked too suddenly. To be honest Dan nor the Galaxy Legion staff should have to waste their time moderating every action a player does. Mods are an excuse for a player to demand a position of illusionary power/prestige which would then and subsequently (there after) result in less experienced players being intimidated. Mods claiming they could ban you from the game, abuse of power, threats, extortion. It's a hefty package of "We don't need this".

Thus player managed ignore features are the better choice. Optional swear filters are also encouraged. I do not believe Galaxy Legion should turn into a game where we have to be mindful of Parental Control features. Yes mindful and respectful of acceptable behavior but not so tight that a simple swear is looked at as a bannable offense. There are parental control software's in existance capable of managing children or young players. If parents wish to control every movement of their child if they do not trust an optional swear filter then perhaps a solvent to this issue is to be required to set a password (that could be reset by Dan if absolutely necessary) that would allow the user to change the setting.

I firmly believe in free-will and creating work for people to be power hungry and abusive is not something I would want out of Galaxy Legion or any other game for that matter. I've seen far too much abuse by fans/players/volunteers who they themselves are not mature enough to use proper discernment. No offense, I believe Galaxy Legion's community is excellent but there will always be a bad apple here or there that will get through the system. Such is what I wish avoided by typing this wall of text.

With respect,
-space88blue

I disagree. Your are completely responsible for your own actions. Since this is a game played over the internet and not in person many people can forget how to be civil. It is nice to know there is a punishment for it, and a severe one. A simple mute really wouldnt discourage people in my opinion. The game should not have to be responsible for policing your own actions.

Failing to reading the ToS, a policy you agree to abide by, is not an excuse. Ignorance is not an excuse in the real world nor should it be here. Not believing that the rules will be enforced is also not a valid excuse.

You know what you are doing is wrong when you do it, that should be enough to stop you. If it isnt than you need a hard lesson. Maybe the next time you find an amazing game like this one (which will never happen as there can be no better game than GL) you will treat the players with a bit more respect.

The only other option i would consider as punishment in place of a perma ban would be an automatic reset of the players account. Start from scratch and if you screw up again, c-ya for good.

good Idea, thinking of this what happens if a friend gets on your computer, gets on and gets mad at someone and swears at them. then bang your banned from the game.If we had the mute you just wouldn't be able to comm anyone, wouldn't you like that much better. or if you are just in a bad mood and you swear at someone then your could be banned from little mistakes like that. so +1

If someone is caught being disorderly in public, are they given house arrest on their first offense?

Sure ignorance is no reason to not obey something, but there should still be lee way

try not to confuse internet games and public as the same. People may be arrested for being disorderly on their first offense and i have seen it many times. However you simply cannot ban them from existence. Here you can. If you dont want to play by the rules and you cannot control yourself than you should be removed.

being arrested is more or less like a temp banning in the game, you get arrested and locked up for (X) number days, you get back out and can do what ever again. do it again (X+Y) days locked up and it continually takes you out of the game of society whether for the better or worse, its still not a first offense execution unless your living medieval and barbaric.

also i do believe that he brought up, and i for that matter, real world situations because you yourself used it in your explanation against this

In reality, many people don't act civilized

Hey hey hey, lets not start hating on each other. I was just trying to explain my point of view. I didnt give a real world example, i was just making a statement. DOnt get me wrong, I can totally understand the frustration people might have when a good friend gets banned over something silly they did. I just want to stress the importance of being responsible for your own actions instead of trying to skirt around rules. Dan has attempted to make this game as friendly for everyone as possible.

I just dont like to see people break rules and then try to campaign against them to get away with it. Perhaps the perma ban is too harsh (I dont think so) but i think what has been suggested so far is too lenient.

I have to agree to everything that is said here. We all NEED options to do what we want or feel we need to do when a player / person says things that pisses us off. If I'm upset with someone I'd like the option to tell them where they need to go with some cuss words that get filtered out.
Now spamming is bs and is annoying as hell whether it be in words or artifacts thrown for hours. If this happens then it would be nice to have a " mute " option so we don't see what they're saying and that person on the other end can cuss away at me all they want and get their frustrations out on me talking to themselves and I don't have to see it.
Also I'd like to have a toggle switch on the " Block " option that we have. I've had people talk #&$# and just try to piss me off in the past so I blocked them so I didn't have to see their bs.
Later I got to know them in fb and found out that they're not as bad as I thought and wouldn't mind adding them back.

Free will and free speech is the way to go and add some filters so kids or people with virgin eyes and ears don't have to see.

Absolute punishment right? So someone robs a candy store with a squirt gun and they're to be executed at dawn correct? Not an appropriate response of justice you're proposing are you? Definitely isn't that's for sure. Sounds to me like you really don't like cussing. Good for you. Well, not everyone likes excessive amounts of it either. Give it a rest though; you want police you want chaos you want police over policing the police.

The next time you make a crack about the real world... use actual proportional examples. Because last I checked you don't get banned 100% of the time in a restaurant because you cussed a few times near a family. You get asked to stop swearing, if it keeps on going and disturbs the family then the restaurant employee has the option of skillful negotiation. One party would have to leave; in reality it shouldn't be the family but sometimes to avoid conflict I've seen the family find another restaurant where they find a better experience. The same thing is said for the person who was swearing alot; I've seen them actually leave just as much as say the offended party.

You can't dump absolutes on your own singular perception of real life and you honestly can't accept that your perception is correct. Because if it were I wouldn't be typing this, I wouldn't dare oppose your brick-walled opinion of personal prejudice. Swearing it happens, it can be avoided through neutral techniques. Swear filters with a password so a kid can't always de-activate it. The parent is likely to keep an eye on their children's activity anyway but having such a method would be far more productive than taking away from the game players other players could disable, hack raid and enjoy badging on. Consecutive evasion of the swear filter I might agree would need mediation from a Game Staffer. Preferably one trained in neutrality.

I still do not think that adding police who could potentially abuse their positions of power naturally is the right course of action. Neutral minds are hard to come by and you can't add a price tag any more expensive than priceless to these types of people. But letting prejudice people who would bait people to misbehave just for the simple satisfaction of banning those who would oppose law is ridiculous. Creating loopholes for trolls in the name of absolute justice is just wrong.