Unfortunately, I am not at all shocked by how many people say this, who clearly haven't thought it through. If you start arguing that a bunch of people just shouldn't be playing the game and changes should be implemented to make the majority of people less likely to keep playing, how likely do you think it is that Dan's going to agree with you?

Exactly..

haha Grow up kid. Seriously, if we had it no I know most people did not even know about this till you guys started doing it so thank you for showing us how it is done. I would be very tempted to do it myself, but unlike you, I do hold some integrity and not lower myself to cheap tricks. Ya we may have taken out all those level 7s, but we did it still burning through our resources, without using the halc amp trick. Sure there was a glitch in the math of the base dmg, but you guys were still able to defend, debuff, and disable our ships. It is sad how you all in Dominion feel like you are on some self righteous war path to salvation from the big bad Dysonian oppression. What most of you fail to realize is just how helpful dysonians are to the trade industry, planet buying industry, as well as I have seen most of us try to help other people with the game. I am willing to bet that egotisical buffons like you, wouldn't even bother to care. You claim to have a war vs the dysonians, but on this war path how many other legions have you guys decided to dog pile on? How many other legions have you decided to planet steal from? Where is the "justice" in standing up for all the other legions against us, if you just go about killing everyone that is not part of your founding legions? Dysonians may be the big bad anarchy that you all want to over throw. Dominion would be be considered a dictatorship and tyranny that runs the other legions through fear of being dog piled and there will be another hate group formed to over throw your rule. Come at us though we are ready. You have still yet to take on our base, carefully plotting and trying to cherry pick the best from anywhere you can. We took out all 3 of your bases with little down time between. You guys have taken now 4 days to "plot" our demise. Have fun you will need it.

Heh. Ironically, so-called Dysonians "crying" for 1.5 years actually shaped GL in much better game.. I guess that so-called "crying" has lot of benefits to GL community as a whole.

A bit off topic, but...

Ya you are right, on a buisness stand point that is bad and I get where you are coming from. At the same time though, it should not be implemented in a way that changes the mechanics of a normal guarded planet. As I said if Dan wants to keep the system the way it is I am fine with that. The only thing I want to see changed is when you go to use an artifact like a Null, that you do not have to exit out and reselect the planet/target as that is a huge advantage giver to the defender and makes defending very easy for a 1 man show till he can get help defending.

I agree that you should be able to debuff people guarding a planet, and I think the only reason you can't is a design issue with the game and the difficulty of an efficient solution. If you recall the bug where planet Colony status didn't update unless you checked the planets, I think it's similar to that: not intended, but tricky to fix. And, as with that, I like to think Dan's working on a solution, but it similarly won't be a simple couple-hour fix. In this post, I was specifically responding to the reasoning in that argument, which I see too frequently.

I think the part that is predictable is how when Noci finally realizes that it affects him, he has such a fit about it. I.e. when discovered that NAP'ed players show up on your tab and we had to look at them, until Dan finally got us a fix for that (which I am grateful it is fixed).

I mean people complained for a long time, but he comes here and complains about it as if none of us, whether DarthF or Bender or the brand new guy, have already discussed it to great lengths.

Also I like the karma statement, sort of when the dominion wore amps and halcs while hitting a base, like a "shoe on the other foot", but yeah no biggie. Karma is what noci is hating about these so called issues after the fact. I mean after all most of it is learned from is his own, eh?

I agree that the issue of hitting a trap or shooting a probe when dealing with guards on a planet means we have to relock the planet target is very annoying. The fix will speed it up for all of us. The question is, do you want me (or insert appropriate name) to be able to move faster on your planet?

kharr, don't get mad you little spunk monkey, you weren't even in #$*# when the 3 7's were taken down, love how you keep saying "we" like you had something to do with it lol, don't mad bra, don't mad......

Now I know I have no place speaking here, but this is basically what I feel. I haven't really heard of the Dysonians going to war with anyone (it's wholly possible they have, but I haven't heard of it) prior to this, and as far as I can tell they're just playing the game like any other legion would. They disable bases, kill/badge players, steal and buy planets. So does just about everyone else.

You need to understand that I don't have time to read most of GL posts at all cuz I am very busy person in real life.. Whenever I see a problem in GL, I always come here to report what I saw regardless of anyone months ago already reported it.. I report all kinds of problems I experienced all the time since I first came to GL. I do not keep problems secret to benefit myself at all. It's not my way, sorry.. It's good to repeat the problem reports if reports months ago went unheard anyway.. We just need to remind Dan over and over again til problems are solved..

So in other words repeat over and over again crying and crying about the same issues like a broken record? Or perhaps the squeaky wheel gets the grease?

I don't really care what anyone else says, you are being whiny. The issue is reported, Dan is aware of it now, so drop the issue and move on. the more you carry on and whine about it the more you come off like I said, a whiner. That is what everyone else on the server who bothers to read your garbage or cares to post here tries to say but you seem to just keep repeating the same old nonsense that you are just "trying to make the game better." No, you are just whining that you want to make the game better.

Nah, you are just trying to make the game better for yourself. You could care less about how others play this game. Have you talked to other people who play this game? How about people in other legions?

Since you always talk about how busy you are and how you never seem to be aware of how these issues have been reported before or how they are known and people are aware of them even in your own legion and take advantage of them inside of your own legion, I would stand to reason that you do not.

No, it is pretty obvious that you do not even talk to people inside of your own legion to figure out whether changes you propose would benefit them or talk to them to figure out whether any change your propose sounds good to them before proposing it.

Perhaps it is good? I am not passing judgement on every change here. But most of your ideas are in the realm of terrible to just plain bad timing where your own legion knew about the flaw and took advantage of it for months before suddenly you decide on the spur of the moment that it needed to be changed.

Before you propose a change, think about the ramifications to others like perhaps the players who are lower ranked then yourself and myself? Like maybe those just starting the game?

I am not talking about this change in particular or maybe others we have argued about. I am talking about any change. Remember, lower levels probably do not touch this forum and you are so out of touch even with your legion, I see no reason why anyone in this game should even take you seriously here anymore.

Are you still trying to claim you had no idea half your legion was using calming amps on base battles? That is a riot.....

Out of touch indeed. Exotica defense does need to be fixed in this instance so this bug can and should be fixed. But carrying on like a broken record when Dan is obviously aware of the issue is just being whiny. Get over yourself. Go blow up some ships. Like maybe double disable mine again. Go exploit like you seem to enjoy. Enjoy yourself exploiting known bugs. Be a good little Dysonian sheep.

Lol. I do get LOT of private emails from many GL players outside my legion with lot of positive feedback on my part of GL community.. I even was informed that there was a fan club being ran by someone (I forgot cuz I told that person that I had zero interest to join and forgot about it). You do not know at all because you do not read those fan emails I receive from those players.. Your conclusion made me laugh. Enjoy..

I will continue to do what I do so far.. I make noises and they work so far.. Live with it. If you don't like me here, just continue to bash me or just ignore me. I do not care either way..

Do you get magical back rubs from a leprechaun too?

Just mentioning that some sad people think you are some kind of hero and have a "fan" club for you is all the evidence we need to see how self centered and egotistical you are! Always trying to show how great your "leadership" is! Always saying "no we never used those exploits!" or "We only used them to show Dan they existed!" BTW showing Dan they existed while you used them against other players!

Get over yourself! Practically your entire legion uses multi windows to spam ten or more arts at players instantly to disable them then make claims on our comms about how great the dysonians are and how weak we are when we comment about needing to gang attack and using exploits to debuf players! The other day 7 Dysonians used 40+ arts via multi open windows exploit to get just 3 disables against me a rank 650 them rank 550 to 1100! The coms left on my ship were so over the top!

This is why folks dislike you and your legion! The constant projection of your "power" over all others and your complaints only after the bug affects your legion.

Nice! I love this kind of angriness.. Keep it going. By the way, I am no hero at all. I'm just very infamous, egomaniac player as most people already know.. I am proud of it. After all, Nocifer name stands for that if you get the meaning.. It's nothing new.. I merely corrected Bender's conclusion and you jump in..

By the way, I don't use multi-window to do GL. I only use one single tab cuz it's good enough for me. I can't say about other Dysonians how they play game. After all, Fluffy told us that he used 10+ open windows just to take us on. Seems that some Dysonians learned some tricks from Fluffy and Fluffy taught other Dominions to do the same with multi-windows to play GL. It's widespread as it seems already but I don't practice that personally. Rank means nothing at all. Heck, I was fighting FRAIL and there were over 700 rank difference between us and I only used single window to handle that fight. Again, Rank difference means NOTHING..

Some players here might but I do everything from a single window which my recent attack by you guys cause of lag definately played its toll but I never use multi windows unless i am bt hunting for badges and want to let the CD for a hack wear off.

Yes well I wont get into a debate with you about your tactics or those of the 3 other Dysonians using that multi window trick that day. 14 arts two traps taken and removed and a disable against an online player in less then a minute all from one dysonian. You say no multi windows but timing does not work out. Even with lag you could NOT drop 14 arts and take and recover from two traps in less then a minute. Sorry math does not work out. So like on ships comm I will not respond to you anymore as truth is hard to hear through all the noisy chaff you throw out. Besides this was not just about you... and many of the dysonians don't use that trick. They also do not trash talk so much.

The topic I was responding to was the constant we don't use tricks or exploits as we are great, see I have a fan club junk... the fact remains using exploits to "show" Dan is still using exploits... and so on and so on. I won't post any more replies on this thread.

If that math doesn't work out, then perhaps you can explain to me how some of your brethren can artispam me, eat a krio, fuse, disable me from full hull and shields, AND raid 6-8 times (TMs) all in less than 30 seconds.... Or how that same person can eat a krio, fuse and disable me (again from full hull and shield) in the time it takes to open an NPC and click attack....

You think that's bad, this morning I lost a planet in the time it took to scratch a cat! It was worth it, though