I'm wondering whether anyone has done this yet, my concern is that its already invincible, as as such, it isnt going to be ANY benefit to me if it has an increase in population/defence/cloak...
so my concern is whether or not I can use it, and ask dan to refund me the transfuser and remove the 'analysis' on the planet, untill i get something that IS beneficial.
otherwise. its a waste of ~6$

EDIT, can you also use a QSE on the mission exotic? its massive now, but why not make it very massive... its extra space.

Yes, you can make it Very Massive and you can make it 15x with terraformers.

If I understand correctly, there are only 4 options on an invulnerable planet:

1. Rings (20% all)
2. Ancient Relics (20% arties)
3. Small Moon
4. Large Moon

how sure of this are you? i dont want to be wasting my $ if its even remotely possible to get the ineffective buffs.. as for the extra space, id of course LOVE the better ones


Also, lets say i use the transfuser NOW, while its only massive, and it gains +20% size, does that +20% size stay at the original size increase of 12.6 spaces, or does it also increase when i use the QSE, and effectively give me 13.8? i know its only 1 or 2 spaces, but on a planet thats X15 (eventually) those extra spaces are great production value.

so, to use the QSE now, or use it after the transfuser..

i bought the transfursers for my rift planets and my mission dyson / exotic

each of the rift planets got a small moon - more space but meh, anything else would have been better

the dyson / exotic each got the rings.

fixed

I got the rings on the exotic, small moon on the dyson, large moon on my one and only rift atm...that's 97 space there, really sweet. I do not have confirmation, but having done it myself and not getting any defense or pop boost, I think it's safe to go ahead with it.

and how about the space increase... should i use the QSE first, and THEN transfuser, or will it correct itself after?

I'd use the QSE to be on the safe side

on another note, one of my best planets randomly got the permanent cloak bonus on its own a few weeks back(it puts a giant purple bubble around the planet), so it's impossible for it to get ANOTHER permanent bonus..I don't mind the purple bubble, but what I'm saying is that you don't want this kind of bonus to RANDOMLY appear on an invincible planet before you can use a transfuser

I've heard you can use a Transfuser to cause another permanent effect to occur on planets that have gotten the random effect/random analyze, not certain if it's true. If it is true, it wouldn't really make much of a difference, and if it's not you could probably contact Dan and ask him about removing the effect or changing it to one more suitable for an invincible planet.

You can use a Transfuser on a planet that already has a effect. I have a planet with the +30% cloak, and I used a transfuser on it, and got rings. Perfect storage planet. You cannot use a transfuser on a planet that has already had one used on it.

well I thought you couldn't.....anyways, just bought a transfuser and used it on MY mission exotic(my best planet) and got large moons, which is great because the planet's very massive

Why do you want a refund when you knew you could have gotton something awful? You should have used it on a normal planet, and if you like the effect, use a Hyper terraformer...

That's a good point, a bunch of us should go back in time and tell our past selves not to use the Hyperterraformer until after Reality Transfusers come out. Hopefully our past versions will trust us, because they won't know what Reality Transfusers are.

uhm....I DON'T want a refund, and I DIDN'T get something awful.....thankyou for you satire Manus, it was very....clever... d: haha

not sure if that last one was for me, but i wasnt looking for a refund, i was wondering if it was possible to get one IF a useless effect was gained..
Its a moot point now, i used my QSE and Transfuser, got the +20% rings, not too shabby.

Now for one last question... should i use two terra formers on it to max it at X15 on all aspects?

Yes, I said that in the second post in this thread.

YES.




it's nice having maxed out planets...though you don't have to BUY terraformers to do it..

yeah... but ive got the GP now, and figure why not... dont need the points for anything else.. unless i steal my next planet and need it fluxed..

I can confirm that this is possible - I found a planet that had Subterranean Caverns, a randomly generated permanent effect. I used a Transfuser on it and it added rings.

And Dan said that the Transfusers consider invincibility - I think this is because, as stated above, they've only ever been observed to produce moons, advanced civilization, or rings.