So after a bit of discussion with a couple others in the legion, we figure that it's high time that the calming amplifier either gets fixed or removed because it's causing more problems than it's solving.

When you slap on a calming amp, you shouldn't be able to attack bases and you shouldn't be able to guard planets, as well as it's current effects.

Either this or remove the artifact entirely.

(please no flaming)

I think my comments so far tonight require me to +1 this thread.

Yup I agree with this, for the benefit of all legions.

+1

I prefer the remove option tbh

I agree with this but only if the advantages for bases to change their stats during battle, other then abilities, is removed. Otherwise your giving an unfair advantage to a base with nothing on the attackers side to counter with. Such as:

1. re-configuring hull/shield modules during base battle.
2. ability to add arty (exo-clamps, comm-links) to base during battle.
3. ability to players to change professions during base-battles to fixer, to provide base with additional hull (Auxiliary Fortification) and repair ability.

Well I agree but don't see dan removing it after all two items in the ctp lab take them and they limit getting tons of either one think this was said by just about everyone when dan said it himself awhile back. dantte that is interesting sense I think dysonians where the first to suggest such a thing at least as far as modules as for changing races figure dan likes the GP points being spent.

Take away the ability to change structures on a planet then too. And change to Xecti race or Biologist profession. And adding any artifacts to a planet that give attack/defense/population/immunity.

I don't pvp so I would like to keep the calmers. As it is they are only good for 1/3 the time they used to be. How about doing away with some pvp artifacts instead.

That isn't the issue here. The issue is the bugs and loopholes that the amplifier has regarding planets and bases.

....that weren't an issue with the "old school" halcyons and CAmps. Now that they grant full artifact immunity to the wearer, while they can guard a planet or ATTACK a base that belongs to another group of PLAYERS, changes need to be made. I've said this since it first came up. Guarding a planet INTENTIONALLY places your ship into a potential PvP situation and trucing should not apply at all if targeted from the planet. Attacking a PLAYER-MADE base is near enough to direct PvP that truce effects should be nullified and given a non-use timer from the first click of the attack button. That timer should extend until either (1) the base is disabled or (2) the lock timer expires on a successful defense.

+1 calming amplifiers and Halcyon traps should be totally removed from the game too many exploits when it comes to them and they aint being fixed anytime soon so I agree with getting rid of them

Lost me Darth. I may have misread and if so,then my bad. But, you can't be calm amp or have on halc and successfully guard a planet. Dan has already fixed that part. Or so I thought

You are immune to all artifacts.

sorry I disagree

-1

Care to explain why? Or is it just feminine contrariness?

-1 to getting rid of c amp all together...I do not use them personally, I pvp, but a lot of people do use them so why take them away.also as mentioned they have use in ct lab

+1 to fixing them, if you have a c amp on your ship and you try to guard a planet or attack a base you instead get error message saying your ship currently has an effect preventing you from guarding planet(or attacking base) seems simple enough..

I also think when halcyon traps are set on your ship, you should in this case not be able to guard planets because if triggered while guarding you have same passive effect as c amp and same problem.However, i do not think(unless i missed something)that having a halc trap set should stop you from attacking bases, as there is no worry of pvp in base attacks.however if your trap is triggered at any point of attacking a base, then you will no longer be able to attack the base because you now have a passive effect that would prevent you from attacking and you would have to wait for the effect to wear off before resuming attacks on base.

I say making guard planets and base combat into offensive actions.
and then give an option to cancel calm amp(it would be bad to be unable to guard planet when there is a surprise attack of sorts while u r calmed up)

removing them altoghther.... i really would like to be not CM/debuffed while scanning for planets and/or NPCing.... so~

so -1 remove, +1 fix

But, they are too tied into the game to be removed. Think of all the CTL designs that use calming amps.

Or the thousands of players who use them without loopholes that don't visit the forums to express their opinions?

-1 to them being REMOVED. They would have to change 2 CT Lab recipes..

+1 to CHANGING them. To NPC ONLY, Just change the description

The solution to bugs is to fix bugs.

Remove halcs.

Keep calming amps.