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 + 24 arti upgrade, OR smaller artis?? for mission dyson. 
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I'm wondering if it would be better to upgrade my last +12 building to a +24... or if there are artis out there that will give more production for the 18 space.

Also.. can you use an extractor on the buildings after they've been enhanced?

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+24's give a 1.33 resource/space ratio. There's a limited number of artifacts that could possibly fill that amount of space AND give better production. And no, they can not be extracted as they are not an artifact structure.

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thanks darth. Wasn't sure if they changed 'status' upon being enhanced or not.
so it would be much much easier for the +24.. rather then wait and hope and pray and do a few months of missions for the other artis?

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thanks darth. Wasn't sure if they changed 'status' upon being enhanced or not.
so it would be much much easier for the +24.. rather then wait and hope and pray and do a few months of missions for the other artis?

That's what I did with my dyson. Yeah, it doesn't churn out what it possibly could, but it works for my needs.

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Mining 28x Mega Rich 315 units/hr
Artifact 28x Mega Rich 2439.36 units/hr
Research 28x Mega Rich 637.56 units/hr


3 +24's makes most of arti output out of it

and some multipoduction artis (1 spot multiple production points)
sill needs some extraction and arti shuffling, i guess its possible to squeeze out almost 3k arti/h from it

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and im holding mine because i dont want to use them and have dan turn around with a another tech Tier about a week later...

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and im holding mine because i dont want to use them and have dan turn around with a another tech Tier about a week later...


So... You're going to miss out on all those resource points on the off-chance that Dan is going to add something for the top what.. 3% who have everything researched already? Pure brilliance.

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What I did is upgraded 2 of my 3 +12's to +24's so if I get some better things I still have room to rework it.

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As of NOW, any and all very massive or bigger planet (include VL/massive with moons etc) can fit in at least one +24 while having all the better production/space artifacts.
If that is, they need not be defended(that is to say, mission planets)
otherwise, u will need colossal+ or VM with moons etc. But then again, usually non-mission planet don't have all 3 production types "up there" so~ u probably won't want all the following

Specifically, the buildings that give better than or at 1.33:
size 1, Phase Cutter - Tri-Phase Upgrade - Mining: 3
size 1, Phase Cutter - Tri-Phase Upgrade - Mining: 3
size 1, Warp Gate - Mining: 1, Research: 1, Artifact: 1 (or better, hypergate, 2 all)
size 1, Processing Core - Mining: 1, Artifact: 1
size 1, Interrogation Center - Research: 2
size 1, Silthion Gas Vesicle - Research: 2
size 1, Sha'din Grid Network - Research: 2
size 2, HyperSensor Satellite - Research: 2, Artifact: 2
size 1, DM79 Datacenter - Research: 6
size 2, Isolation Bureau - Mining: 2, Artifact: 2, Research: 2
size 1, Adumbrate Station - Research: 1, Artifact: 1
size 1, Adumbrate Station - Research: 1, Artifact: 1
size 1, Refining Lab - Mining: 1, Research: 1 (or better, upgrade, 2x2)
size 1, Relay Tower - Research: 1, Artifact: 1 (or better, upgrade, 2x2)
size 1, Spy Uplink - Sha'jha Uplink Upgrade - Research:2
size 1, Spy Uplink - Sha'jha Uplink Upgrade - Research:2
size 1, Extracted Lithovoric Stem - Bonus Mining: 10%
size 1, Xecti Signal Repeater - Bonus Research: 10%
size 1,* Intraphasic Hoveroid - Bonus Production: 5%
size 1, Zolazin Analyzer - Research: 1, Artifact: 1
size 1, Zolazin Analyzer - Research: 1, Artifact: 1
size 1, Adaptive Spire - Mining: 1, Research: 1, Artifact: 1
size 1, Adaptive Spire - Mining: 1, Research: 1, Artifact: 1
size 1, XTS-10 Injector - Mining: 3
size 1, Meta-Tuned Jammer - Research: 4
size 1, Antimatter Drill - Mining: 1, Artifact: 1
size 2, Sulcation Portal - Mining: 2
size 5, Omnibase - Min: 3, Res: 3, Arti: 3
size 2, Captured T.O. Harvester - Mining: 2, Artifact: 1(NPC Drop)
size 1,* Auric Lepus Drone - Artifact: 2(NPC Drop)
size 2, Bane Generator - Mining: 3, Artifact: 2 (GP)
size 2,* Scruuge Hoarding Vault - Artifact: 3 (Gp)
size 2,* Scruuge Hoarding Vault - Artifact: 3 (Gp)
size 2,* T.O. Harvest Vault - Mining: 3 (Gp)
size 2,* T.O. Harvest Vault - Mining: 3 (Gp)
size 2, Assimilation Locus - Mining: 2(4)
size 1, Permafrost Sub-Network - Res: 1 (all x2 on icy) (Mission Reward)
size 1, Mylarai Stripcore Mine Mining:4, Artifact: -2
size 3, Sillixx Starport - Artifact:2, Mining:2

Note that only the first 14 space worth are unlimited AND aviliable indefintely. The others might have limited aviliablity and/or other conditions.
The total amount of space of those are 52-55(depend on wether u count the 1.33 building), but it's unlikely for them to all exist on the same planet(possible, but meh~), it's probably more realistic to say ~40 space worth on most planets.(-omni, - some of the GP/limited time stuff)

Further more, the next best thing is this:
size 5, Captured Crimson Base - Min: 2, Res: 2, Arti: 2, Att:250, Def:250
And everything after that is 1 production/space ratio
And actully, even if u still have some >1.33 stuff left to place, it's possible that +24 is ultimately better. Specifically:
if u have 4 of the 1.5s(3 production 2 space) left to place still
4 1.5s: +12, 8 space
sillix port +4, 3 spaces
CCB: +6, 5 spaces
OTHERS: +2, 2 spaces
total: +24, 18 spaces
In other words, if u have less than 4 1.5s, then it is better to have a +24

In conclusion, ur mission planets should house at least 1 +24, and it would take ALOT of newly released artis to change that fact. as for the rest, check the list and think on it

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