Nothing to see here folks, move along. This topic has already been chewed out. No need to post anything new here, and please do not post a topic similar to this one anytime soon.

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I did read and stand by my reply you want to trip traps with no repercussions. I say BS you choose to pvp deal with it. 10 Emps and Disarming bombs and they have nothing... You must be the unluckiest player ever if all your BT is filled with Xecti's I have none on mine.

If you attack someone where is the malice in setting a defensive trap you don't get it do you?

I guess you haven't heard of the acf or crimson amp or obelisk? 5% +10% +15% combined with Konqul 20% hmmm See where I'm going with this..

It seems like you need to learn how to play the game better rather than raging over hitting a few traps. Remember you attacking someone else is your choice not theirs. So automatically it puts the ball into the attackers court and the only way they can have both traps is by not taking part in pvp in the first place. That includes planet attacks and invasions as well.

So when you trip their traps they have to waste their artifacts to reset them should they be raging too?

Biz you still don't get the point of it...sadly i don't ever expect you to get it....

Quite the contrary, neo... Biz actually does "get the point."

People who remain passive long enough to enable halcyons and CAmps (which means NO disabling attacks, NO raids, NO hacks, NO invasions, NO wormhole emitters, NO DBombs, NO EMPs, NO CMs) have earned the right to defend themselves however they want if someone FORCES a PvP situation that they have opted out of. I wouldn't mind having halcyons autotrigger on the second shot. But I'm not going to be anal enough to demand it, or any other way of bypassing halcyon/KV traps. I'm a hair over rank 800 and the potential PvP targets are starting to thin out, but I still find plenty of targets to disable.

All this is, is people trying to force their playstyle onto people that do not want to take part in it. Trap probes are not that hard to interpret. Action counts aren't that hard to interpret. Current trap mechanics have nothing wrong with them.

Exactly Darth.

@Neo

At nearly rank 1000 I believe I do "get it"... I have dealt with it and have not tried to make it easier. This isn't Farmville but also it isn't a pure combat game. People enjoy different things about the game let them play how they want.

Personally I enjoy bases and npc's to improve my planets but have done enough pvp to get all my mk 3 doms and I didn't do it as a low rank it was from rank 400+ my kills cost upwards of 150 energy but I don't believe in debuffs for badges so I put the hard work in.
If I get disabled by players much higher than me so I know they aren't trapped up so I hit them back it isn't rocket science. I work 9-10 hours a day so if I'm not around then I set traps I can't sit on my a$$ 12 hours a day online to reset my traps because someone thinks it's their right to force me to play their game. If I want someone to waste a null because they made me waste a trap so be it that's the consequence of attacking me when I'm not pvping.

What are you about rank 200? Play smart don't ask to be spoon fed.

Biz......you not only just shot yourself in the foot you just put it in your mouth to boot......... the idea i gave would mean you would have better protection then you do now seeing as you like most players are not on as much as some others. And your arguing with that.....why?

Why would the aggressor, who already has the advantage, need even more protection?

See, that's the problem. That is why I asked for a 5 year old before, because a 5 year old would grasp that concept better than what you seem to be doing.

Because I hit them back! I'm not always trapped, I do pvp and I don't NEED protection. I just think the system isn't broken and the people that do, have the right to have it.

I won't see an increase in people attacking me and if I DO it's more untrapped targets for me. I don't care if I hit kvt's I have a massive stockpile of nulls and a good memory.

Your suggestion is not trying to protect non pvpers its a whine cause you hit a few traps and wanting it to be changed to benefit you.

Now do you get it?

Han.....i will assume your high....or drunk how in the world does the attacker have any advantage?

To begin with... More often than not, the target isn't even online.

So the simple fact that as is the halc alone provides a unbreakable defense isn't a huge disadvantage?
Not to mention that many of the defense boost's are perm. many of the attack bonuses are artifact based, as well as the biggest one of all is a racial trait, that would mean by your logic every single person who wants to take part in even minor pvp has to be a konqul.......

As a member of the ADF, if I am caught with drugs in my system, I face a military court prosecution and discharge from service, followed by civilian court prosecution, so no, I am not high. As to alcohol, people like you do push me towards the drink, but I at least am aware when it is too early in the day to start. Military service has been good in teaching self control around idiots.

As to why you are an idiot, I will explain. The attacker has the obvious advantage in most situations for several reasons:

1) They are online.
2) They have the potential to buff.
3) They can use multiple and stackable debuffs to significantly lower the targets attack, defense, shields and shield regeneration.
4) Due to server issues, an online defender may not know they are under attack until they are already disabled.
5) They can attain information regarding potential traps on the target, and deduce with great accuracy what traps are online.
6) If a BT hit, most BT targets tend to be below the level of the aggressor, again making it easier.

What advantage does the defender have?
1) So long as the defender has not engaged in offensive actions in the past 24 hours, they have the potential to have on a trap, which lasts 2 hours when set off, that makes them immune to being attacked.
------> Notice, that the aura only lasts 2 hours, so after that two hours, there is still the potential for them to be disabled if another attacking ship finds them on the BT tab.
------> Yes, they can extend that aura to a minimum of 6 hours if they use a Calming Amp, but there is still the potential, however slight, for a disable in that time period.

The only other time the defender actually has the advantage is if they are actively online, notice they are under attack, and can pull up KVTs quick enough, and that's only if they do not have the Halcyon up.

Notice how the list of advantages for the attacker is bigger?

No, it is not a huge disadvantage, because EVERY SHIP IS CAPABLE OF HAVING THAT ADVANTAGE SO LONG AS THEY MEET THE NECESSARY STANDARD, which is easy because it only requires you not to partake in offensive actions for 24 hours.


Defense and attack boosts are useless when disarming bombs and EMP spheres are STACKABLE. That means, if you use enough, you can effectively nullify and destroy their attack and defense. If I was inclined, I could use a huge number of Attack and Defense debuffs on a player 300+ ranks above me for an easy disable. And then I can add a Chaostatic Inhibitor and a Krionite Torpedo so that I don't have to worry about their shields regenerating.

I'm not sure whether you are just trolling or truly are dumb.

Every thing you are posting has been countered. Xecti's are a small infact very small fraction of the population so that doesn't even factor into it.

The fact you choose to attack people puts the ball in your court many will be off line meaning they have no other def. If the action count is higher than 3 5 5 they don't have a halc so that doesn't factor in if you are capable of recognising those numbers I guess if you are dyslexic it could affect you.

Where is it not simple enough for you to understand that if you attack someone with a higher than base action count you will get a badge unless they happen to be online. I'm done trying to explain to you.

nothing to see but i like to see what the . is all about........


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3+3=8
4+4=glasses
5+5=fish
6+6= specticals
7+7= triangel


any questions!!!!

If you mean totally ignored and not even addressed twisted around like i was speaking in some other language then bravo <claps in applause> well done you counted every argument i said regardless there's no point in even talking to someone about something when they are on a whole other topic all together.

I think that that is an accurate interpretation of what you are doing, yes.

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