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You will see more and more of the better artifacts that can only be found in draws disappear. Game developers often do this so that people will get used to having them and then have to buy them with real money.

As for someone mentioning they want the mass surface melter, Dan removed it from the game.

The Golden Days are over boys unless you are the one paying.

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Kaos where did you see that Dan removed the MSM?


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I don't remember but if you post a question I am sure he will respond.

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I see some claiming to have 1500 artifact an hour and whine. lol.

There are trigger values, I don't care what some say. If I want a trap I collect at 1200.
Omicrons at 1400.

If Tron doesn't smile on your pickings it's because you haven't fed your keyboard enough crumbs.
My keyboard has months of offerings ... I think trap and I get traps.

Go fetch yourselves crackers and start honoring Tron.
Tron also appreciates tobacco. Roll up right over it.

Hubris is your demise, bow to Tron and reap his harvests.

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I see some claiming to have 1500 artifact an hour and whine. lol.

There are trigger values, I don't care what some say. If I want a trap I collect at 1200.
Omicrons at 1400.

If Tron doesn't smile on your pickings it's because you haven't fed your keyboard enough crumbs.
My keyboard has months of offerings ... I think trap and I get traps.

Go fetch yourselves crackers and start honoring Tron.
Tron also appreciates tobacco. Roll up right over it.

Hubris is your demise, bow to Tron and reap his harvests.

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Here is my final output, right before star charts were disabled. Once I quit logging and started drawing more frequently, I got a lot more for my AP without star chart and mass storage pods, about 50% more artifacts. Subspace seeker was modified, and continuum beacon was added after this. While some items may be "super common" and appear twice as much as others, I still tend to think that all the items have the same drop rate. Grav-whip trap was only dropped once, which is weird because it isn't that good; the average drop rate was 8, the max was 16, the standard deviation is about 3.5, so although there are a few highs and lows, the distribution looks fairly reasonable to support the idea that all drop chances are equal.

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I finished this the day before Dan switched up the artifacts. Almost 2 million artifact points/1139 rolls sorted by Drawn Percent.

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Thanks Dude,

Nice work.
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Are the Quasi-Spacial Expander and Terraforming Devices still available? I have never gotten one on a drop yet, all of the ones I received came from NPC drops.

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Hmm, ODragon I feel like a lot of mine are opposite of yours; I was unlucky drawing grav-whip, and had far too many cloning pods for example, but you range is about the same as mine; the highest ones were about twice the % rate of the lowest ones, so it seems to confirm a uniform distribution of artifacts. Given that charts+pods was ~30%, we expect about 50% more artifacts by count for the same AP with the new draw table, and the continuum beacon is more or less offset by the decrease in cost of the seeker. I've noticed a high increase in star chart purgers lately, including 3 in less than 10 rolls on one occasion; perhaps it is to make up for the loss of charts.

The terraforming device is a rare drop on high level NPC. The planet flux I have also seen as a drop in the wiki on NPC I saw, but extremely low % it would seem. None of those are easy to come by anymore.

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yea i always seem to get a drannik sabotuer with like 500 ap left lol

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Hmm, ODragon I feel like a lot of mine are opposite of yours; I was unlucky drawing grav-whip, and had far too many cloning pods for example, but you range is about the same as mine; the highest ones were about twice the % rate of the lowest ones, so it seems to confirm a uniform distribution of artifacts. Given that charts+pods was ~30%, we expect about 50% more artifacts by count for the same AP with the new draw table, and the continuum beacon is more or less offset by the decrease in cost of the seeker. I've noticed a high increase in star chart purgers lately, including 3 in less than 10 rolls on one occasion; perhaps it is to make up for the loss of charts.

I would agree with this but for me, your 50% is off for me because I am now rolling at 4500 no removing the Subspace Seeker and Continuum Beacon. Both of these are still over valued IMHO (although, better than they were). No more star charts means I get a lot more rolls!


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What I meant is since 2 drops cost 30% before, if you take them out (one is out now and one you just roll < 20k), and redistribute it, you get about 1/(1-0.3), maybe that's more like 40-45% more artifacts but anyway I'm getting a lot more than when I was forcing > 20k to draw everything possibly. I also see a crap load of purgers now.

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Unlike you guys I get tons of those stupid grav whips. As for the purgers, I get less now than when I did when star charts were in the game. I suppose that could just be my luck but now that star charts are out, I REALY need to get more of those purgers.


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I think we need more planets in the galaxy, am i right? i also think that we need more high AP cost artifacts.

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I think we need more planets in the galaxy, am i right? i also think that we need more high AP cost artifacts.

Check the total number of planets on your planet scan tab, if you notice it goes up every now and then so there are more planets being added.

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I think we need more planets in the galaxy, am i right? i also think that we need more high AP cost artifacts.

Check the total number of planets on your planet scan tab, if you notice it goes up every now and then so there are more planets being added.

oh lol, didn't notice that. we still need more artifacts worth high amounts of point though. i would be happy if they multiplied the artifact price of fluxes and terraformers by 5 or something. the stuff i get now is almost useless compared to what i used to get.

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Yeah the problem is we've already discussed that and high levels still don't have a problem meeting those high costs just through the sheer amount of AP per hour they pull. If you want terraformers and I'm assuming quasi's farm mobs lots of mobs.


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did shield restorers get taken out of the game?

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No.


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