energy req : 2500
chance of succes 10% , if failed the planet has a 90% of being destroyed
cooldown : 4 days

cooldown is kinda random , doesnt really matter tho as the chance of succes is low and if it fails it has a high chance of being destroyed ,
stats like these would make it "acceptable" , but still the missions should cost a lot of gp compared to what you can do with it in a timeline of about 2-3 months

i wouldn't risk it. planet destruction was brought up a while ago and widely shot down.

i know that , but this is the counter effect of something that would otherwise be OP and thrown to the trash

energy req : 2500
chance of succes 10% , if failed the planet has a 90% of being destroyed
cooldown : 4 days

cooldown is kinda random , doesnt really matter tho as the chance of succes is low and if it fails it has a high chance of being destroyed ,
stats like these would make it "acceptable" , but still the missions should cost a lot of gp compared to what you can do with it in a timeline of about 2-3 months

i know that , but this is the counter effect of something that would otherwise be OP and thrown to the trash

id use it on crappy planets in hope to destroy them.

id use it on crappy planets in hope to destroy them.

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Let's be honest here, if someone had proposed the Taltherian race independent of the mission chain Dan released, it would have been shot down as OP. It would have seen the same arguments we have seen countless times before: "Dan wouldn't do that, it will take away the money he makes off of Terraformers!" "That's too OP, high level players will just sit there and get stronger" "If the game was meant to be played that way it would have already been added" etc. etc. etc.

The fact of the matter is it's only OP because we make it so. If the race was released to the general public, it would admittedly need to have rather absurd requirements as far as cooldown, and limiting it's use, but it is no more OP than other races being able to artificially boost their artifact production and the same arguments apply. But we already have Taltherian, and everyone is content with it. No one is complaining that Taltherian is too OP and Dan made a mistake. Exactly how if this race was already released and already had satisfactory limitations, no one would be arguing for it's removal. Instead everyone would be scrambling to become this race and utilize it's ability.

The only thing OP that has been suggested in this thread so far is the idea of destroying planets completely on the (I was hoping to say off chance, but 90% is far from slight) chance that the ability backfires. That would literally be destroying what Dan has spent time and effort to code, and provide for us players to do with as we see fit. Not to mention no matter what % chances you put on it, the chances of this being even considered drop dramatically the second you add pure luck into what is supposed to be a race specific ability. That completely removes the balancing of the race and makes it not worthwhile.

While I personally don't think this will be a race, there is no reason why it shouldn't be a race as long as legitimate and weighted limitations are placed on it.

The are a few major differences here.
For one terraformers are WAAAY more common than qse's from npcing and therefore are more likely to be bought.
Also taltherian only boost arti production not all three like terraformer.
The taltherian chain also reguires 400k+ energy to complete.

chance of succes 10% , if failed the planet has a 90% of being destroyed

And there shouldn't be any kind of failure when upgrading planet, that is just retarded..

Just no.

I think we can discount ideas without spiteful messages, even if it wasn't aimed at the person only at the idea it could still come across very badly.

something like this ability would help all players as the crappiest planets get *slowly* improved.

'supersize' ability - upgrade a small or smaller planet (with no permanent effects) one size level

1000 energy
cooldown timer: 1 week
success rate decreases based on planet size:

very tiny -> tiny: 50%
tiny -> very small: 25%
very small -> small: 10%
small -> average: 2%

something like this ability would help all players as the crappiest planets get *slowly* improved.

'supersize' ability - upgrade a small or smaller planet (with no permanent effects) one size level

1000 energy
cooldown timer: 1 week
success rate decreases based on planet size:

very tiny -> tiny: 50%
tiny -> very small: 25%
very small -> small: 10%
small -> average: 2%

something like this ability would help all players as the crappiest planets get *slowly* improved.

'supersize' ability - upgrade a small or smaller planet (with no permanent effects) one size level

1000 energy
cooldown timer: 1 week
success rate decreases based on planet size:

very tiny -> tiny: 50%
tiny -> very small: 25%
very small -> small: 10%
small -> average: 2%

i was not the one suggesting it , i was just giving an idea of how limited it should be as it is way to OP