Smugglers chasis not REALLY a disguise.
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strm avenger
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Well, since Dan has said that this is what was intended, shall we let it die?
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Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:36 pm |
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RavenDark13
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:01 am Posts: 571 Location: Hudson County, NJ, USA
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icarium81 wrote: i just want a meaningful reward for something that ONE needed a TON of energy spent to find (Caelon) and two, took ANOTHER ton of energy to do the mission chain... as it is, its a cosmetic change, that doesnt show up now unless you want it too, and 600 invasion attack.... either up the attack, or make it a TRUE disguise as stated before.. Did you receive a medal for finding and destroying that Caelon?
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Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:49 pm |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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yup, but thats splitting hairs, you all know exactly what i want and WHY i want it, my argument is valid, it would mean being DISGUISED was ACTUALLY a disguise, and not just a paltry 600 invasion attack and a label.
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Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:33 pm |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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another point in this thread. you steal a planet from player X of whatever race. plop down an invasion protection arti and they can no longer take it back unless they switch races or are willing to have a friend/legionmate take it for themselves.
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Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:27 pm |
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Caladis
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:24 pm Posts: 359 Location: Houston, TX
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't the DSC also reduce upkeep costs by 15% if you have all 3? That plus 600 invasion attack is a fairly decent reward imo. 10 bil upkeep without being a builder is easy to hit, reducing that by 1.5 bil per day adds up.
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Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:29 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
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Caladis wrote: Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't the DSC also reduce upkeep costs by 15% if you have all 3? That plus 600 invasion attack is a fairly decent reward imo. 10 bil upkeep without being a builder is easy to hit, reducing that by 1.5 bil per day adds up. That's the Dark Assemblybots from the first mission in the Smuggler chain.
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Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:31 pm |
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Caladis
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Darth Flagitious wrote: Caladis wrote: Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't the DSC also reduce upkeep costs by 15% if you have all 3? That plus 600 invasion attack is a fairly decent reward imo. 10 bil upkeep without being a builder is easy to hit, reducing that by 1.5 bil per day adds up. That's the Dark Assemblybots from the first mission in the Smuggler chain. Thanks for clearing that up, i haven't finished the first round yet
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Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:33 pm |
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Hansolocal
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:52 am Posts: 704
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icarium81 wrote: yup, but thats splitting hairs, you all know exactly what i want and WHY i want it, my argument is valid, it would mean being DISGUISED was ACTUALLY a disguise, and not just a paltry 600 invasion attack and a label. Yes, we know why you want it. You've been a very naughty boy and are now trying to run away from the repercussions. All actions have consequences, Icarium, if you don't want to face them, then stop doing and saying stupid things.
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Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:17 am |
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icarium81
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who am i trying to hide from and how would hiding a players race be hiding? im talking about adding an element of the unknown to everyones long ass lists of which legions to not lock because they have X builders/fixers/aerlen etc. your the enemy, YTF would you know what race I am if im DISGUISED!
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Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:22 am |
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Hansolocal
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icarium81 wrote: who am i trying to hide from and how would hiding a players race be hiding? im talking about adding an element of the unknown to everyones long ass lists of which legions to not lock because they have X builders/fixers/aerlen etc. your the enemy, YTF would you know what race I am if im DISGUISED! Yes, but the disguise was to trick the Dark Smugglers Guild into believe you were one of them. Since the DSG can't check up your legion info, I would say that the disguise works as intended.
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Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:09 am |
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Darth Flagitious
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Hansolocal wrote: icarium81 wrote: who am i trying to hide from and how would hiding a players race be hiding? im talking about adding an element of the unknown to everyones long ass lists of which legions to not lock because they have X builders/fixers/aerlen etc. your the enemy, YTF would you know what race I am if im DISGUISED! Yes, but the disguise was to trick the Dark Smugglers Guild into believe you were one of them. Since Dan said so, I would say that the disguise works as intended. Fixed.
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Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:20 am |
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Hansolocal
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Darth Flagitious wrote: Hansolocal wrote: icarium81 wrote: who am i trying to hide from and how would hiding a players race be hiding? im talking about adding an element of the unknown to everyones long ass lists of which legions to not lock because they have X builders/fixers/aerlen etc. your the enemy, YTF would you know what race I am if im DISGUISED! Yes, but the disguise was to trick the Dark Smugglers Guild into believe you were one of them. Since Dan said so, I would say that the disguise works as intended. Fixed. That does not follow. If you wanted to "fix" (and I use the term 'fix' loosely) the comment, you would also have had to amend the preceding sentence. Since you did not, all you've created is a new problem with two adjoining sentences that do not follow a single argument. Please do better in your "fixing", or at least make sure you do not quit your day job.
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Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:09 am |
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RavenDark13
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icarium81 wrote: yup, but thats splitting hairs, you all know exactly what i want and WHY i want it, my argument is valid, it would mean being DISGUISED was ACTUALLY a disguise, and not just a paltry 600 invasion attack and a label. So, that's 600 invasion plus the "disguise", and a medal?  Hmmm... I don't know. Sounds like a lot to me, old friend.
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Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:48 am |
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neogoterra
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:30 am Posts: 1121 Location: Freeing Layered
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Honestly both sides of the argument here have valid points, for a disguise its serves no real use for "disguising" the person using it, on the other hand it would mess up pvp seeing as most players would be to afraid to pick a fight seeing as they might run into a bigger ship then they wanted.
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Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:39 pm |
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icarium81
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thats exactly the point NEO, your ENEMY doesnt want you to know if they are a BBIG FKING SHIP or a teeny tiny itsy bitsy POS, YOU have to find out the hard way.
i dunno, lets say that if your scan os 10K higher then their cloak (possible but not likely) you can see what they are all the time... I will not back down on my view point on this, a disguise is a disguise, it hides who you are. the PvP att/def numbers are still going to show, you can go by that and decide if your attacking a shark or a goldfish.
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Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:43 pm |
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neogoterra
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:30 am Posts: 1121 Location: Freeing Layered
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But thats just it icarium many plays want to have the game on easy mode all the time and dont want a challenge.
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Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:49 pm |
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icarium81
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the response to that is go play farmville. you want an easy brain dead game, farmville, you want a game where you need to think atleast a little bit, stick it out here. not everyone has a DSC equipped you know.
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Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:55 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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FFS... Like Hansologretel already said... The DSC was made for fooling the Dark Smugglers' Guild. Furtive Adjustments wrote: You may have fooled a random smuggler, but Guild Officials won't be so blind. Gaining an Aperture-Key to the Dark Rootnode would be quite a prize, but your ship needs to appear more...criminal first. Specific parts are needed to create the disguise. It was made for a specific purpose. Fooling the Guild officials so you can gain an Aperture Key. Are there any players who are Guild officials? I thought not. Give it a rest already. This is how Dan intended it, and it does exactly what it says it is for.
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Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:10 pm |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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yes darth i read that, but im still standing behind my view point on this one.
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Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:13 pm |
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Hansolocal
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:52 am Posts: 704
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icarium81 wrote: I know it works as the developer intended, but I still think it should work as I believe it should... even though it does everything it says it should. Fixed.
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Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:26 pm |
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