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Geez yet another thread about being butthurt about debuffs.


Hahaha so typical of some players..fly thru the post and ignore why some players actually put in a thought into this before posting.. and bring in the word "butthurt" just because is the new thing to say.. :D

No I put in the word butthurt because the OP is obviously 'butthurt'.


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Geez yet another thread about being butthurt about debuffs.


Hahaha so typical of some players..fly thru the post and ignore why some players actually put in a thought into this before posting.. and bring in the word "butthurt" just because is the new thing to say.. :D

No I put in the word butthurt because the OP is obviously 'butthurt'.




Maybe the OP was but the points made through the thread are still equally valid.

i'd like to see debuffs limited to one of each like they are on all npc's if you cant kill someone work on your ship there is no one in this game who cant be killed without debuffs you just have to invest some energy into it if you really want to kill them.

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I dont know about mento, but the more debuffs get used on me, the more i laugh.

To me, its proof positive that they were too weak to kill me any other way.

Also, because of the way they stack (Getting less effective each time) casual emp use (say, 3-4) does get effected significantly by raising your defence. Sure, if they throw 15 at you, your defence doesnt matter. But your hull certainly does, and your attack will make them feel pain.
IF they throw 15 disarming bombs, now your attack doesnt matter either.

But of course, that means they just spent 150 energy doing nothing but debuffs, before even attacking. Thats expensive energywise!

If someone uses these 15 emp's and disarming bombs on me, they then require a minimum of 48 attacks against me to get the disable if they hit my damage cap. (Assuming they also use a krionite torpedo. If not, add another 25 attacks on, or 125 energy)

So now that i have been totaly and utterly debuffed and killed, my attacker has spent 395 energy to get the kill, or 515 if they did not use a krionite.

You know... given i have to use a single artifact to repair myself, im kind of happy with that trade. TO me it feels like there is a very good reason to keep raising my defence and hull...


To me, this sums it up perfectly, and in the given example if someone has used that many debuffs, then they are not gonna be able to keep on doing this to every higher ranked ship, due to emps and bombs running out of supply if you use them this way. Whereas the higher ranked player doesnt even need the debuffs. They just wipe the floor with you. Talking from personal experience here. So although it does to a certain extent level the playing field, it doesnt really, as invariably, the guy 200-300+ levels above will have the last laugh, due, as previously stated, to higher arty production, more energy, more arts etc. The stackable debuffs just mean that the much lower/and or weaker ship gets to have a little laugh too......before being obliterated into smithereens lol!

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guess all week and scary souls are emp lovers :) i will realy enjoy seen debuf limit like 2x 3x just cant w8 see them scremenig from anger :D talking of buthurt same time trowing #&$#, houner is dead !long live the COWARDS ! :mrgreen:


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Maybe the OP was but the points made through the thread are still equally valid.

i'd like to see debuffs limited to one of each like they are on all npc's if you cant kill someone work on your ship there is no one in this game who cant be killed without debuffs you just have to invest some energy into it if you really want to kill them.

I'll put it to you this way, if someone steals your best planet, imagine if someone managed to steal a 22x Artifact, mega Collosal off you, would you want to disable/hack/raid as much as possible? I sure would, it may be petty and not worth your while in the grand scheme of things but it at least gives you tiny bit of satisfaction right. Now what if they're double or even triple your rank, your defenseless.


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Maybe the OP was but the points made through the thread are still equally valid.

i'd like to see debuffs limited to one of each like they are on all npc's if you cant kill someone work on your ship there is no one in this game who cant be killed without debuffs you just have to invest some energy into it if you really want to kill them.

I'll put it to you this way, if someone steals your best planet, imagine if someone managed to steal a 22x Artifact, mega Collosal off you, would you want to disable/hack/raid as much as possible? I sure would, it may be petty and not worth your while in the grand scheme of things but it at least gives you tiny bit of satisfaction right. Now what if they're double or even triple your rank, your defenseless.



The players who badge me off the Bt are almost double my rank and if someone much stronger than me steals my planet you alert them to your legion and you work together to take them down and zero them out that's what your legion is there for.

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I guess all weak and scary souls are EMP lovers :) i will really enjoy seeing debuff limited to 2x or 3x, just cant wait see them screaming in anger :D talking of butthurt at the same time trolling #&$#, honour is dead ! long live the COWARDS ! :mrgreen:


Fixed it for you. Do you go to school you dyslexic fuc?


To argue with against the OP, yes obviously he's been blown up and he is butthurt and only cause of that does it concern him now. Let's take into account that not everyone has the time or money to build tough ships and accumulate 1000+ hacks when < Rank 100 - I debuffs is the only thing balancing tough and weak players. Weak players are still at an disadvantage even using debuffs, they need to :

- Use energy to fire debuffs
- Stock up of Debuffs
- Wait until enemy player is offline/idle
- Players that spam artis are in for an alert and alot of punishment

Players with strong ships can kill the weak player with little inconvenience.


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Maybe the OP was but the points made through the thread are still equally valid.

i'd like to see debuffs limited to one of each like they are on all npc's if you cant kill someone work on your ship there is no one in this game who cant be killed without debuffs you just have to invest some energy into it if you really want to kill them.

I'll put it to you this way, if someone steals your best planet, imagine if someone managed to steal a 22x Artifact, mega Collosal off you, would you want to disable/hack/raid as much as possible? I sure would, it may be petty and not worth your while in the grand scheme of things but it at least gives you tiny bit of satisfaction right. Now what if they're double or even triple your rank, your defenseless.



The players who badge me off the Bt are almost double my rank and if someone much stronger than me steals my planet you alert them to your legion and you work together to take them down and zero them out that's what your legion is there for.



what if you are the strongest guy in the legion, say rank 400, but the guy who took it was rank 1400? then what?

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guess all week and scary souls are emp lovers :) i will realy enjoy seen debuf limit like 2x 3x just cant w8 see them scremenig from anger :D talking of buthurt same time trowing #&$#, houner is dead !long live the COWARDS ! :mrgreen:



right, so if mento decided he didnt like you, and started kicking your ass every day, and you had no one in your legion to help you, what would you do then? Nothing. emps balance the field, its not cowardly at all.

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guess all week and scary souls are emp lovers :) i will realy enjoy seen debuf limit like 2x 3x just cant w8 see them scremenig from anger :D talking of buthurt same time trowing #&$#, houner is dead !long live the COWARDS ! :mrgreen:



right, so if mento decided he didnt like you, and started kicking your ass every day, and you had no one in your legion to help you, what would you do then? Nothing. emps balance the field, its not cowardly at all.



How would Mento or some one else end up kicking ur ass everyday if you are not stupid enough to get on his log for him to do so

By now you should know who you can mess with and which players you should stay away from and if you dont you will find out.

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guess all week and scary souls are emp lovers :) i will realy enjoy seen debuf limit like 2x 3x just cant w8 see them scremenig from anger :D talking of buthurt same time trowing #&$#, houner is dead !long live the COWARDS ! :mrgreen:



right, so if mento decided he didnt like you, and started kicking your ass every day, and you had no one in your legion to help you, what would you do then? Nothing. emps balance the field, its not cowardly at all.



How would Mento or some one else end up kicking ur ass everyday if you are not stupid enough to get on his log for him to do so

By now you should know who you can mess with and which players you should stay away from and if you dont you will find out.

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So if you saw a nice undefended 22x mega collosal of his you wouldn't take it right because you know who you should mess with and who not.


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Very well put Epicownage.

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If you think getting hit with a few artis is bad, i suggest you never conquer and try to hold Exotica. You'll have a seizure throwing this fit over the amount of artis you'll be hit with. Another point is, when you are PVP against a player that is online trying to disable you artis make it more fun. There have been quite a few times I saw the alert that my trap was tripped, I threw a few emps and disabled the player trying to disabled me before they knew I was attacking. Other than that 1 containment cage will wipe ALL those debuffs in one shot, so it not overpowered in any way. If you make up to the higher end of the rank spectrum and have rank 1600+ attacking you and taking planets and such, you would regret it if there is a limit on debuffs, a lot of these players have over 30k att and def. Personally I am fine with the debuffs as they are, if you are concerned so much about losing your researched def, get higher arti production so you get more brackets and have more hull.

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So if you saw a nice undefended 22x mega collosal of his you wouldn't take it right because you know who you should mess with and who not.


:roll: I would..and thanks to the planets fluxes it will be mine... but i'm not gonna be stupid enough to keep alerting my self after two days of being pounded by him.. Common sense folks..it don't matter how many times in those two days I get 0ed nvm the freaking debuffs..

you just simply don't mess with ppl that request from Dan to implement the ranking points to be spent as a whole cause they pull 150-200 rescued prisoners a day.. :D ( I can see the click problem there)

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So if you saw a nice undefended 22x mega collosal of his you wouldn't take it right because you know who you should mess with and who not.


:roll: I would..and thanks to the planets fluxes it will be mine... but i'm not gonna be stupid enough to keep alerting my self after two days of being pounded by him.. Common sense folks..it don't matter how many times in those two days I get 0ed nvm the freaking debuffs..

you just simply don't mess with ppl that request from Dan to implement the ranking points to be spent as a whole cause they pull 150-200 rescued prisoners a day.. :D ( I can see the click problem there)

Sorry but the fact that you would take that planet means your previous statement was void and hypocritical.


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So if you saw a nice undefended 22x mega collosal of his you wouldn't take it right because you know who you should mess with and who not.


:roll: I would..and thanks to the planets fluxes it will be mine... but i'm not gonna be stupid enough to keep alerting my self after two days of being pounded by him.. Common sense folks..it don't matter how many times in those two days I get 0ed nvm the freaking debuffs..

you just simply don't mess with ppl that request from Dan to implement the ranking points to be spent as a whole cause they pull 150-200 rescued prisoners a day.. :D ( I can see the click problem there)

Sorry but the fact that you would take that planet means your previous statement was void and hypocritical.


If you are referring towards my reply of how can Mento kick my ass everyday just because to the difference of me stealing his 22X and get beat for two days I don't see how is that void and hypocritical. We talking about two different things which you brought the planets in to play..

Read the post again instead just fly thru and think what you are about to post again. :roll:

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If you are referring towards my reply of how can Mento kick my ass everyday just because to the difference of me stealing his 22X and get beat for two days I don't see how is that void and hypocritical. We talking about two different things which you brought the planets in to play..

Read the post again instead just fly thru and think what you are about to post again. :roll:

I read your post again, and i really hate repeating myself but:
Sorry but the fact that you would take that planet means your previous statement was void and hypocritical.


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Really? Really? This is a topic.....Really? If your weak enough that you need to use artis on me then I'll make you pay when I get back on. At the same time I'm not gonna cry to everyone cause I got disabled. If for some reason someone stronger does it to me same idea maybe a little less payback, who knows? Either way get over it the only thing I hate when I get spammed is that it fills my log up would love a summary rather than each individual act, same with the guy who disables, raids and hacks me multiple times.

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Really? Really? This is a topic.....Really? If your weak enough that you need to use artis on me then I'll make you pay when I get back on. At the same time I'm not gonna cry to everyone cause I got disabled. If for some reason someone stronger does it to me same idea maybe a little less payback, who knows? Either way get over it the only thing I hate when I get spammed is that it fills my log up would love a summary rather than each individual act, same with the guy who disables, raids and hacks me multiple times.

I thought Dan already did that.


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